MvC3 Actual Balance/Potential Tiers Discussion

Read again: “DHC WELL”. Never said there weren’t other options. Maximum Wesker does poor damage and Gamma Wave needs specific spacing for full hit. Seems like if you want reliable non-situational damage, Zero is the best bet. I’ve been trying to get meter building combos with Dante from MS into Devil Trigger spin state, but my execution with Dante sucks. :frowning:

Once again, I know that isn’t the only option. Never said it was. Hell, the end of your post even agrees with me.

Haven’t messed with Tasky arrows, but if it’s anything like Doom’s Sphere Flame it’s pernickity as fuck. Doom seems to be summoned into different positions depending on where on the screen you activate the DHC. And yeah, I noticed while trying to get MS to DHC into Cutting Time that the leniency changes depending on how high Spiderman is. Really annoying!

If Tasky arrows is as reliable as skittles then I’ll give him a look even though I find him a bit boring. Spidey/Tasky Wesker maybe? I need to investigate Spidey/Dante/Wesker + Spidey/Deadpool/Sentinel and Spidey/Doom/Wesker first though. I haven’t had much time with exams and stuff. Will fuck around with these guys when I have time.

Nice web ball concept by the way. I’ve been wondering whether you can chain out of Spiderman’s web swing assist if you use it as an alpha counter? Can you cancel the web swing alpha counter with normals and stuff or does he just complete the web swing? Might give some useful mix up/pressure options if he cancel it. I’ve been meaning to check that out, but I won’t have time tonight. Gotta work.

starting from Maximum Spider, to Wesker, to Akuma… that’s just under 1.1 mil damage. Maximum Wesker adds about 150k on tall characters, 100ish on medium sized ones, and gives you another spin state to mess around with at the end. That’s a pretty good DHC imo.

Agreed.

The best teams I’ve found for Spidey are Spidey/Tasky/Wesker or Spidey/Wesker/Akuma. I don’t use Doom or Zero though so the “classic” Spidey/Zero/Doom might work but I find that Akuma, Taskmaster, and Wesker are not only easier to use, but provide many of the same setups and are solid secondaries/anchors.

Spidey/Wesker/Akuma gives better DHC options than Tasky/Wesker but I feel that Tasky/Wesker is a much more well rounded team as you can play rush down or keep away with all 3 characters on the team and can control a large chunk of the screen depending on assists and who is on point at any given time. Akuma/Wesker with Spidey can still be zoned out, just Akuma’s Tatsu doesn’t make it entirely free.

Spidey teams for me,

Spidey, sent, wesker
Spidey, task, wesker
Spidey, storm, wesker
Spidey, task, doom (rock assist)

The team I use with spidey is nice…

Spidey (swing or web ball)
Hulk (gamma wave for OTG)
Doom (Hidden Missles)

I can do a 1.1 million damage combo with one meter by doing a triple web throw combo, using doom hidden missles then swing to corner launch air series swing, ground them hulk otg to web swing again followed by super jump max spider. Does 900k damage before using any meter and can dhc into hulk for 1.35m.

Hulk gamma wave assist is ok, do some zoning with web zip, web ball and web throw with that assist and hidden missles helps spidey take advantage of lock down.

Hulk benefits from hidden missles and doom can use gamma wave assist effectively.

Spidey’s only problem is landing a hit, he can do ridiculous damage easily with some time in the training room.

Am I the only one tired of this sentinel hypocrisy? Everyone and their mother claiming the nerf was unnecesary because scrubs were crying, he was never a problem, he is so easy to counter, blablabla.

Then you watch a tournament and he is the most played character in almost single one and guess what the same top players that claim he is mid tier play him. The same top players that claim he is easy to counter get destroyed by (xfactor) sentinel.

Sentinel is top tier, not the best or close, but he is VERY good. Feel free to call me scrub for being honest, keep thinking that because you can abuse his hitbox or he is simple he is shit.

I play him, and I can´t believe people can think the character is not top tier material.

lolol

Sorry ment to say normal move with armor and it’s the range on the command grab I had issues with, but I was not aware that you could Kara it.

Also I like tier threads because it’s a good general place to learn info about other chars that I don’t play very often. I have played at least 4000 matches in mvc3 online and off and have ideas some people may disagree with and that’s fine please prove me wrong with facts and examples.

Now name calling and snickering at someones ideas instead of intelligently disagreeing and proving them wrong with examples just makes you look like a dick and makes people who want to learn about the game not want to post.

He gets zoned out by Wesker, Taskmaster, and Amaterasu; he gets rushed down by everybody else. If it wasn’t for the assist, there would be little reasons to play him. Honestly, at this point I’m thinking of switching Sent for Taskmaster because he is better all around except at getting the random lol hit.

He might round out the top ten or be their gatekeeper but he ain’t top 5.

I’d place him somewhere between 10-15

LMAO, Sent is only top tier on the assist tier list. Marn even said it himself, if he’s just left with Sent, most likely he’ll just …you know die. Unless he gets that random hit. But such is Mahval.

Fact is, he requires no skill overall, has almost every tool, and is always a good choice especially when third character (XFC / DHC ).

People saying he is just high mid are the pro’, or the noobs thinking at their level C Viper is S Tier. Same people will say Hulk/ Iron Man / Spidey suck. Don’t listen and just try what works best at your level.

Sentinel is easy mode from noob to pro. Just saying.

NO SKILL characters to win with : Wolverine Taskmaster Akuma Wesker Sentinel Amaterasu Wesker Tron Bonne Magneto (learn to triangle seriously then you rock with Mag… plain braindead in mvc 3)
With Storm, Dormammu and Dante close behind

How are Tron Bonne and Magneto braindead characters? lol. And you put Storm and Dante up there too. This thread, I don’t even know.

Tron Bonne and Magneto are pretty easy to play. Storm not so much and Dante is easy to play, maximizing his damage is not.

Sentinel takes no skill to play? Are you joking? Everything he does on the ground is like a huge target saying “Boy I sure hope I don’t whiff and then DIE for it because my health is low.” Random launcher, random armored normals, etcetera are terrible against players that know their spacing. I do that versus someone with an air dash, they can get a jump in on me on reaction to whatever I did.

Not getting instant overhead’d to death and learning how to control space with your normals is pretty important stuff to playing Sentinel and that’s not as simple as get in, do mixup, do ABCS ABCS OTG Super yay I can play MvC3.

Playing any character at a high level takes skill.

you’re fooling yourself if you think Sentinel takes skill to play.

you have some great points there

Honestly Tron is VERY braindead and this is coming from a guy who really likes her as a tron player your gonna do two things for 90% of the match…Tron flame and when shes on point jump H… seriously that shit has so much priority and a huge hitbox the only time you shoudnt be doing it is against hulk and sentinel for obvious reasons and against dog,wolvie and zero because of thier hurtboxes/priority

you’re fooling yourself if you think half the cast takes skill to play

edit: whoever said dormammu takes no skill is plain stupid his zoning game is by far the hardest to get used to and utilize properly and rushdown dorm…takes some getting used to

Well I mean, he mentions Tron and Magneto, then forgets about characters like Hulk and Haggar.