MVC Infinite Lounge: DLC Characters and Costumes launch Dec 5th

DevilJin_01 · June 2, 2017, 10:15am

Based Combofiend and Xmen vs SF devs working to Make Marvel Great Again

d3v · June 2, 2017, 10:18am

Right now, as I see it, there are two kinds of people here. Those that want to play “Marvel vs. Capcom” and pick their favorite characters in a versus game, and those that want to play “Mahvel” and pick top tiers, and run busted shit on scrubs.

One is more invested in how the series plays, and its legacy of brokenness, while the other is more interested in the characters and the crossover potential. It seems however that while we used to have more of the former, right now we have more of the latter.

Guy · June 2, 2017, 11:58am

A lot of people are forgetting about what we were told X does. His buster works as a command move-type special that has a projectile before it (which is why it’s stationary yet chargeable). That’s actually half of what Zero was capable of in the past with buster, except X apparently has attacking options after it, which means they’re likely going to be safe…ish. You’re basically going to have to think of it like Zero buster into lightning but I doubt X has any crossup command options.

They wouldn’t just let it sit there and be crap. I’m actually pretty scared of a character that can likely put on a rushdown form of Hawkeye s.H command-move pressure.

The people who commented on it said X would make some sort of beam slash in one of the commands, and there was a screenshot of that move officially made. Looks like a projectile shot after it too. The others are likely high-lows, or feints, etc.

Zane_Hitsurugi · June 2, 2017, 12:27pm

In all honesty if Capcom would just make a Capcom only crossover fighter that wasn’t made to be broken, or as some of you people might call it “dat crack”, I feel like people would be a lot more lenient on the game. Some people, myself included can only handle but so many ToDs and hidden missiles before its time to call a quits. The only reason I stuck with UMVC3 was due to the decent roster it had.

Pete278 · June 2, 2017, 12:33pm

Zane_Hitsurugi:

d3v:

Right now, as I see it, there are two kinds of people here. Those that want to play “Marvel vs. Capcom” and pick their favorite characters in a versus game, and those that want to play “Mahvel” and pick top tiers, and run busted shit on scrubs.

One is more invested in how the series plays, and its legacy of brokenness, while the other is more interested in the characters and the crossover potential. It seems however that while we used to have more of the former, right now we have more of the latter.

In all honesty if Capcom would just make a Capcom only crossover fighter that wasn’t made to be broken, or as some of you people might call it “dat crack”, I feel like people would be a lot more lenient on the game. Some people, myself included can only handle but so many ToDs and hidden missiles before its time to call a quits. The only reason I stuck with UMVC3 was due to the decent roster it had.

There’s plenty of options out there for fighting games, if you want one that isn’t MvC, you can just play one of them. I like them being broken and high stakes and I want it to stay that way.

Zane_Hitsurugi · June 2, 2017, 12:40pm

Pete278:

Zane_Hitsurugi:

d3v:

Right now, as I see it, there are two kinds of people here. Those that want to play “Marvel vs. Capcom” and pick their favorite characters in a versus game, and those that want to play “Mahvel” and pick top tiers, and run busted shit on scrubs.

One is more invested in how the series plays, and its legacy of brokenness, while the other is more interested in the characters and the crossover potential. It seems however that while we used to have more of the former, right now we have more of the latter.

In all honesty if Capcom would just make a Capcom only crossover fighter that wasn’t made to be broken, or as some of you people might call it “dat crack”, I feel like people would be a lot more lenient on the game. Some people, myself included can only handle but so many ToDs and hidden missiles before its time to call a quits. The only reason I stuck with UMVC3 was due to the decent roster it had.

There’s plenty of options out there for fighting games, if you want one that isn’t MvC, you can just play one of them. I like them being broken and high stakes and I want it to stay that way.

The other games don’t have characters that will likely never appear in another game again.
Believe me, if I could play as these characters in a different game, I’d jump ship immediately.

d3v · June 2, 2017, 3:07pm

Zane_Hitsurugi:

d3v:

Right now, as I see it, there are two kinds of people here. Those that want to play “Marvel vs. Capcom” and pick their favorite characters in a versus game, and those that want to play “Mahvel” and pick top tiers, and run busted shit on scrubs.

One is more invested in how the series plays, and its legacy of brokenness, while the other is more interested in the characters and the crossover potential. It seems however that while we used to have more of the former, right now we have more of the latter.

In all honesty if Capcom would just make a Capcom only crossover fighter that wasn’t made to be broken, or as some of you people might call it “dat crack”, I feel like people would be a lot more lenient on the game. Some people, myself included can only handle but so many ToDs and hidden missiles before its time to call a quits. The only reason I stuck with UMVC3 was due to the decent roster it had.

Well, that’s the legacy that Marvel has made for itself.

fanatiq;d-101424:

Its Mahvel Babee:
Retrospection on the Previous Ten Years of Marvel.

What makes marvel mahvel?

There are several distinctions that separate Marvel vs. Capcom 2 from every other fighting game. The lifespan of marvel seemed perpetual. The devoted competitive scene was thought interminable until the latest ports on ps3 and 360 came and changed the combo engine and various other features. The decision to insist that players move the standard of the competitive scene to these systems caused the game not to gather enough votes to even receive a designated spot in evolutions line up. Notwithstanding this, the game has still been featured in several major tournaments around the nation in its current and future Dreamcast standard form. It has spurned 3 major categorized groups of players: the Combo/glitch video makers, the competitive following and the low tier players. Its fairly obvious which aspects call these groups of people.

Marvel has the most complex combo engine in the fighting game arena. There are plenty of rules to the engine, which are meant to restrict combos, but every single rule can be broken. Furthermore every rule has exceptions. There is a rule that every person can do one attack per normal jump. For some reason this doesnt apply to Sabertooth, Shuma Gorath, Spiderman and a few others. There is a rule that one can only perform one action per normal jump, this does not apply to Spiral and a few others. Normal jump moves cannot be canceled to hyper moves with the exception of Spiral, Magneto and a few others. The exceptions are endless allowing for distinct, new, creative concepts to still surface today on a ten year old frequently explored game.
Based on sheer numbers, one could expect the game to be full of glitches. There is a following dedicated to exploring just that. With over 100 documented glitches in the game, some of which are exploitable in competitive play, many players have fun for hours at a time just exploring and discovering glitches and variations of already discovered glitches. I know typically developers are very unhappy with the existence of glitches in their games but some of them (like the juggernaut power up glitch) have added an element to the game play, which many of those involved in the competitive scene find desirable. I, for one, couldnt imagine marvel without the double snap back with Magneto, while Mike Z probably couldnt imagine marvel without Juggernauts power up glitch, and most sentinel players couldnt imagine the game without both unfly and fast fly and Sentinels unblockable. These glitches helped Marvel to deviate from the direction most fighting games go and ultimately contributed to the devoted following which showed no indication of transience.
It is the only game in existence, with the exception of X-men vs. Street fighter, that has full life pay outs for almost instant overheads. Typically the rewards for 50/50 mix-ups are very small for the overhead but the low is the standard combo. Because of marvels combo engine, an overhead nets the same reward as a low. An overhead is just like a jump-in attack in Street Fighter 4 but it is fewer frames than Sagats F. Fierce punch overhead. Meaning any time someone is within range the damage potential is highly alarming. For spectators its like watching a high stakes no limit Texas Hold em poker match. Unlike 3rd Strike, Rumble Fish, SF4 or Tekken, which would resemble limit hold em, at any time someone can go all in (land a hit) and completely end the match. There is an excitement in knowing that one attack can make the difference between life and death, watching everyones life hang by a thread from the second the word Fight Scrolls across the screen. Its no secret that there is a bloodlust in American Culture. To see sudden destruction come on anyone via videogame or even real life through mediums like Faces of death or When Animals Attack is nothing short of entertaining.

Mvc2 has a stress associated with it. A lot of people identify this as the hype associated with the game. This stress is the fact that one mistake can cost you an entire game. But this is the heart of competitive MvC2. With the pervasive infinites and various one touch kills, a moment of relaxation can cause you an incontrovertible death. Leaving one watching the screen unable to affect the outcome for 30 seconds straight as all life depletes on all 3 characters. Too many times have I witnessed one player get anxious and arbitrarily dash in only to get hit by an assist. The follow up is a combo complete with resets to kill the character. As the next character comes in, he is guard broken before he even touches the ground, and comboed/reset to death. The 3rd character is done the same as the 2nd character but if perhaps the guard break isnt performed correctly, he/she will have a serious uphill battle trying to fight a 2 vs. 1 battle. In most cases the match is over after the first 2 characters die. Very rarely, a person will make a one-character comeback but this is usually due to the leisure of the opponent. Unlike almost every other fighting game in existence today, many mistakes in MVC2 are inexpiable which highly contributes to the stress. Even though you have 3 characters, inescapable guard breaks make one combo spill over to the next character as well. Leading to 300% combos.

Last but certainly not least, I wouldnt be right to leave out another factor that has clearly contributed to Marvels hype.the gambling. As stated before, the lives of both players are always hanging by a thread, so to wager on any match is always a gamble. One mistake can be costly so you always have a doubt as to who will win regardless of the players. The mechanics of marvel make the game slightly inconsistent among the top players, so any money bet is highly volatile. Of course this is the center of gambling to begin with. Originally people were playing small 2/3 money matches for $10 in the East Coast, which probably has the highest cultural influence on the Mvc2 community. The smaller bets over time began to become less thrilling as gambling is progressive. Eventually bets became larger and larger until bets became life changing. Sanford was able to redeem himself vs. Duc in a money match on stage at Evo after losing to him in pools in the same tournament with both coasts backing their respective players. Total pot: $12,000. Justin Wong won $10,000 in a match vs. IFC Yipes. Toan Nguyen of Texas was able to win a match over me with a total pot of $26,000, that is, $13,000 on each side! This was the World Record for fighting game money matches, until the final contrived goal was achieved, a runback featuring paramount bet with a total pot of $48,000! In the marvel community many people show up to simply watch the game, and compete in money matches some of whom have no intention of competing in the actual tournament.
The trash talk, non stop bets, rivalries (and drama that came along with them), the slang that originated with the game and has spilled over into other gaming cultures These are the life of marvel. No matter what ever happens, those that were part of the scene have 10 years of memories that will never be removed. Marvel was a large part of many of our gaming careers. The good the bad, the bitter the sweet is a piece of us that well take with us forever.

otter · June 2, 2017, 4:51pm

Iron Man’s level 3 animation is exactly the same as mvc3. You’re suggesting that they rebuilt it from scratch explicitly to make the game look terrible? Cmon now. Is it more likely that:

Capcom rebuilt a brand new game from scratch, but they’re so incompetent and insane that it they made it exactly like a mvc3 expansion but worse?
Capcom is lazy and made a mvc3 expansion?

the destination is the same, but one option costs 10x more than the other. I’m tempted to say “give me some of what you’re smoking”, but I can’t imagine Ono’s dick tastes too good.

The_Shakunetsu · June 2, 2017, 5:10pm

MvCi goals is obvious not to be like/emulate MVC2 but to be better than MVC2, MVC3 and the rest of the Marvel titles under Capcom that ever existed. MVC2 was the last and sole title we had from the Marvel franchise before the new era of FG has risen from it’s long term absence and before Capcom had concerns to bring it back. MvCi offers a brand new experience it’s clearly seen in the game mechanics not the same or closer from it’s previous predecessor unlike MvC3 to MVC2.

Raging_Zoroark · June 2, 2017, 6:38pm

I think the roster biggest problem is it’s size. There’s no way you can please everyone without at least 200 characters. But at this point the game will be basically Mugen and people will start complaining about learning too many matchups, so yeah, you can’t make everyone happy.

As for myself, as long there’s a character that fits my playstyle I’m good. I don’t care if it’s Karin, Nemesis, Thanos or Starlord. I think 28 slots is enough space to cover all the archetypes, so I’m good.

drunkards_walk · June 2, 2017, 7:02pm

This roster is trash…I guess that’s fitting since everything about the game seems to be trash too

thiagoeis · June 2, 2017, 7:10pm

Don’t know if this has been posted here yet, but here is some other leak including DLC plans for 3 seasons of Infinite and some SFV stuff too.

If it’s true, we will need jobs just to keep up with the DLC lol

WorstPlayer · June 2, 2017, 7:14pm

True words, shit I wanted to play TaskMaster and Deadpool in UMVC3 but they just didn’t fit the way I play or the way I like
to push buttons. Frankly they were a departure from the archetype I play in the first place. I’m a fan of their comic variations.
Same thing with Wesker, granted I could kind of play him. Only wish list character I got somewhat okay at was Dormammu which
SUCKS because I got a lot of characters I wanted in the last game.

Ended up with MODOK/DORM/DOOM and Nemesis/Hulk/Sent teams and I honestly didn’t want NONEAHDEM except Nemesis in the game when I first
speculated on the characters. Sure I got Nem but he blew, still fit my playstyle though.

DevilJin_01 · June 2, 2017, 8:32pm

Most people in the SFV thread think the SFV leak is fake as shit. Even if it were real we wouldn’t see any of it that really matters for another 7 months. There have already been guesses on the Season 2 roster that are pretty close to what was said.

Not really putting too much investment in any leaks at this point. Rather just play the wait and see since characters generally change in play style even if you do get them. Just because you get a character doesn’t mean you get what you want.

quicks · June 2, 2017, 10:34pm

otter:

Hawkingbird:

xiceman191:

assets can be imported into other engines.

Is this the case for the models though? Look how busted Chun-Li looks in Infinite compared to her model in MvC3. Marvel characters closely resemble their movie counterparts.

Iron Man’s level 3 animation is exactly the same as mvc3. You’re suggesting that they rebuilt it from scratch explicitly to make the game look terrible? Cmon now. Is it more likely that:

Capcom rebuilt a brand new game from scratch, but they’re so incompetent and insane that it they made it exactly like a mvc3 expansion but worse?

Capcom is lazy and made a mvc3 expansion?

the destination is the same, but one option costs 10x more than the other. I’m tempted to say “give me some of what you’re smoking”, but I can’t imagine Ono’s dick tastes too good.

But as far as we have been told using iron man as a example he’s had a entire rework with new specials but I guess it’s just lazy

DevilJin_01 · June 2, 2017, 10:36pm

Combofiend said Iron Man will actually be a dedicated zoner this time. Be interesting to see how “dedicated” he is and how strong zoning will actually be in this game.

otter · June 2, 2017, 10:43pm

we’re discussing if its the same model or not. I would fucking hope he has new special moves at least considering he was completely useless in 3.

Zatalcon · June 2, 2017, 10:44pm

To be honest, the 2v2 thing was already something that disappointed me to a small extent. I wanted to have that whole 3v3 designing fun that MVC2-3 had. I was all ok with putting that aside though but then this trash roster came out.

I am not excited at all anymore for the game, i don’t have the same rage as most people but it just really lame. All these months of anticipation and being troll tortured by random fake leakers was all for this? I will probably buy the game next year after i hear if it’s good or not.

My biggest hope is that Ryce is inaccurate. Maybe he got the roster info because someone who was present at the Dubai demo gave him the characters they saw, in which Ryce and his source made the mistake of thinking that was it.

quicks · June 2, 2017, 10:51pm

It’s clearly not the same model , and his mobility n launcher where why he was ass , uni beam and repulsor blast where actually good,

Give iron man a good dash , one that can be cancelled , a air dash that don’t take 400 frames to start, and a launcher that connects at all ranges like everybody else and he’s a legitimate character

GhostTear · June 2, 2017, 11:49pm

IF it is true I have only one problem. With the name Infinite in the title I am expecting a LOT of diversity and characters. Both cool and obscure. If you market a game with the name Infinite in it then I expect to see whats so infinite about it. So far Capcom is not doing that.