Ms. Fortune: Falling to Pieces

Sensei_Rouzu · October 6, 2011, 5:48am

I was eager to see Ms. Fortune before she was revealed and now that she has been I don’t really like her that much.

Saikyo_Joe · October 6, 2011, 7:02am

What normal animations exactly change without her head? Since she can’t use her HP ones (since HP controls the head when she’s headless), I think MP used her head in the animation, so I think that changes? And to what?

Also if anyone can give me a list of notations for her specials and supers to double check with that would be great.

JBGolden · October 6, 2011, 7:24am

It was shown in her video. It’s the hand attack without the drill head.

Saikyo_Joe · October 6, 2011, 7:27am

Ok, now I remember, I’ll probably go back and rewatch it again anyway. That’s just me being lazy.

evilben · October 6, 2011, 6:05pm

also, her berserker barrage has a different ending. looks like it hits more times headless because it ends with a drill hand instead of a headbutt, so it might be better.

Zip7 · October 6, 2011, 6:17pm

YES.

jmcrofts · October 6, 2011, 6:45pm

The head-on version is generally better because it puts the opponent into slide state which you can combo after in a lot of situations. Slide is like a knockdown which can’t be teched.

You’re in for a treat…

42 · October 7, 2011, 10:04am

I had no interest in Ms Fortune until the reveal video. It blew me away!
Rekkas, Ax kicks and Head Games all day!

evilben · October 7, 2011, 6:07pm

i like her chipp/ibuki style rekkas with built in mix ups. how far forward do her rekka iterations move her compared to the pushback from pushblock?

seyu · October 9, 2011, 5:24pm

in the game updates walkthrough it didnt look like the rekkas had to much pushback. maybe a little so that you could not connect the second one if you hit with the first on at full range(on a blocking opponent that is)–EDIT: on second view, its really not much pushback, so maybe it works anyway even at max range–. i havent seen it on pushblock, but from the general distance that the pushblock covers for other attacks id guess you could only make the second rekka make contact if you were very, very close to the opponent when doing the first one. though the low one seems to cover a lot of ground, so there might be ways around pushblock with the rekkas afterall.–well fuck it another edit: the pushblock seems very low on this. i saw it performed on the first rekka and the second one moved her right back into parasouls face. if you care you can look it up in the game changes walkthrough part 1–

im kinda intrigued by the fact that it seems to be jumpcancellable though. and since the axe kick looks like it can be tked very low to the ground youll probably have yourself a nasty crossup/not crossup situation after low second rekka, depending on how fas you do the axe kick. in addition to the high low mixup you get form the axe kick anyway(it looked like it was an overhead in the vids, hitting crouching parasoul that blocked low stuff before)

i kinda hope we see the FNF soon with some Ms.Fortune, so people can speculate more…

Master_Chibi · October 11, 2011, 3:44am

Is there anyway I can get some basic combos with this character?

Hellfromabove · October 11, 2011, 7:00am

I was performing a couple the day I was there to record the Skullgirls video. If I can remember them I will post them up a bit later when I’m home.

-Tha Hindu

Firekid2468 · October 11, 2011, 10:34pm

CopperDabbit:

Hey guys!

I got some hands on time with Ms. Fortune this weekend and was given permission from Mike to talk about her. So, the first thing I wanted to mention is that she is an absolute blast to play. I had more fun playing with her in the short time I had than I have with BB in the last year. For this next section, I’m just going to cover the interesting bits

Normals:
5lp: very quick short jap. Gatlings into itself once for a total of 2 hits.
5mp[h]: Takes off her head and spins it around for 5 hits.
5mp: A fairly quick single hit poke.
5HP[h]: Long range poke with her head.
2HP[h]: Launcher, MAYBE could be used as AA but I’m not confident on that.
5HK: The Go To launcher. I always went for this instead of 2HP[h].
236P: Her rekkas. 236K after the first hit does a low attack. The low attack is punishable on block, on hit you can pick up an OTG combo. 214K after the first hit does her overhead hop-kick. It seems to be very safe on block and allows for resetting pressure. However, the start up on it is long enough that you can easily be poked out of it. Jason D was doing it almost 100% of the time to me. In the corner, when the head is off and also in the corner, doing 236P xx 236P xx 214K knocks the head around causing all 3 hits to combo on block, then allows you to reset your pressure game for free. Note that opponents can push block out of this, but you’re still at frame advantage when they do so.
214P[h] (Air OK): This is the move that takes off her head and rolls it at the opponent (on the ground) or spikes it (in the air). The ground version causes stagger stun on hit, which allows you to easily pick up a combo if you’re close to them with the body, or combo into 214HP; the head grab. The air version bounces the opponent on hit for really easy follow ups. I was not able to figure out a way to combo into the ground head roll to cause the stagger stun. However, you can combo into it as an OTG, then continue the combo going in the corner. For example:

2lk > 2mk > 2hk (2 hits) xx 214P (2 hits) > 5lk > 5mp > 5HK > sj > j.lk > j.mp > j.mk xx 214K xx 214KK is totally legit.

I have to go into work right now, I’ll post more later on. Cheers!

From DL

jmcrofts · October 11, 2011, 10:41pm

This is one of my go-to combos:

cr.lk, cr.mp, s.hk (launch) SJC j. lp, j.lk, j.mp xx axe kick xx air super. Then otg with her slashy super if you have meter.

Master_Chibi · October 11, 2011, 10:52pm

Thanks!

tylerzd · October 12, 2011, 7:00am

Ms. Fortune heads for Ms. Fortune thread.

http://www.tylersdrawings.com/mischosting/MsFortune1.png

http://www.tylersdrawings.com/mischosting/MsFortune2.png

Ms. Fortune smiles upon you.

Firekid2468 · October 12, 2011, 8:21am

CopperDabbit:

Ok, back with part 2 of Mz. Fortune.

Continuation of 214P.

While headless, 214P (not HP) starts the head recall animation. The cool thing about this move is that the head is recalled for as long as you’re holding down the button. Even if the head is right next to you, you have to hold it down to re-attach. But if you just tap the button, the entire animation is really quick. Very similar to change canceling with order sol or tsubaki.

Here are 2 examples of how this is useful:

In the corner, she cannot OTG off of her throw without canceling the throw into a special movie. While headless, doing 214P (no hold), then 2K OTGs and you can perform a standard air combo.

If you hit with her launcher 5HK, and the head hits immediately after that, you cannot do a full air combo because the opponent isn’t launched high enough. doing 5HK xx 214P (no hold) you can juggle with 5lp afterwards into another ground combo.

Misc. Head stuff:
-4/5/6HP go under all but 2 of Peacocks projectiles. If they’re trying to zone you out with Peacocks 236HP~P~P move, you can hit her with MF’s 6HP.
-214HP OTGs. You need to hit very quickly after it in order to pick up an air combo.
-It’s entirely possible to perform both MF’s 236K and 623HP moves in one motion. I only got it a few times, but with enough practice it will likely be something you can pull off consistently in a match. This is useful because the sneeze, if blocked, makes the 236K reversal safe (the LK one anyway).
-Combos do stupid amounts of damage if they catch MF and her head in the same combo. It’s really a double edged sword.

214K (air only) - Axe kick
This is a standard axe kick, nothing particularly special about it. All versions have a lot of start up and a lot of hit stun after them. All versions force a knockdown from any height. Hitting a standard character with one gives you a very easy link on landing for a standard combo.

The axe kicks are very slow and the tiger-knee/instant air versions don’t seem to be particularly effective. This is definitely just a combo tool. IIRC, you can’t combo into the HK version off of anything but her j.HK on a standing opponent.

214KK - Air Super

Good move overall. Not safe on block and doesn’t hit high (no tiger-knee supers for instant overheads, sorry), but gives you lots of time to pick up an OTG combo. The hour one combo I was doing ended with 214KK > 66 > 2lk > 5mp > 236Px3 xx 236PP. Good damage. One thing to note about this super is that it seems to do more damage if it only hits a few times, rather than lots of times. That needs to be double checked.

And lastly her j.HK knocks down and allows for really easy OTGs. Beginner combo would looks something like: 2lk > 5mp > 5hk > jc > j.lk > j.mp > j.mk (2hits) > j.HK > (land) 236PP.

@Kimura, no, here s.HK does not change depending on if she has her head or not.

robotic_elf · October 13, 2011, 8:20am

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Master_Chibi · October 14, 2011, 6:13am

I love the hell out of this character.

‘Tennis’ combos or whatever you call them are rather easy to do when the space is right between you and your head, though there is an issue of proper timing to compensate for the head’s recovery after doing FP. I’m sure her technical nature will present itself down the road, but really I had a blast using her rekkas and head in conjunction along with her realllllllllllllllllly scary j.FP. Holy crap is her j.FP, cross up city for days.

More from the front lines over the weekend guys! See you there tomorrow.

stickystaines · October 15, 2011, 3:02pm

Can you play volleyball with 2 Fortunes in the game? As in can both ms fortunes keep batting a head back and forth until someone drops it.

Lets face it, Roseball is getting a bit stale, i need a new mini game!