Most balanced KOF?

[Dark_Geese]

98UM far and away.

Krauser being top doesn’t really mean much. He isn’t some sort of god. He’s just a very flexible character with strong pokes.

The truth. Just because everyone picks Krauser doesnt mean hes a god or that he’s broken…Hes just very strong, is very flexible, and has an answer for everything. Whereas most characters in the game have an ex character, not Krauser, thus he is the complete package. But don’t think that means you can pick him and just auto-win…doesn’t work that way…It may seem that way from JUST LOOKING AT MATCH VIDS…but if you are JUST LOOKING AT MATCH VIDS then you need to STOP…

Stop just watching match vids and START playing the game and seeing the truth for yourself…

What about Neowave? Isn’t that fairly balanced for the most part?

NeoWave Top Three are incredibly strong- Choi, Young Geese and Saisyu are very very strong…but…with that said… the Tier List for NeoWave (US) also includes:

Choi, Young Geese, Saisyu, Angel, Jhun, May Lee, Kim

So why the top three are quite strong…I argue the game is better balanced than most that havent played it seriously or with people excellent with the chosen above characters have not seen. How many people have played against excellent Angels and May Lees IN NEOWAVE?

2k2UM is better balanced but NW isn’t just about the top three…If you garner this just from match vids once again STOP JUST WATCHING MATCH VIDS…Start travelling to different countries to broaden your horizon…

i wouldn’t say “most balanced” but if you haven’t tried 2002 um yet, i would recommend it, it’s a pretty solid game with a good character selection

2k2UM is a very balanced game…I’d compare it to 98UM… Geese in the game is the 98UM Krauser…same scenario…#1…but not unbeatable either…

Oswald is SO strong?
Sorry for ignorance.

Oswald is strong but Neither he nor Kula, nor Gato are unbeatable. There are plenty counter characters for those " Top Three" and they aren’t the top three IMO…Duo Lon Leader joins that top spot as well…he’s just too good when he’s Leader, and in addition the A Class of Duck, Eiji, Kim,Kyo, JYAZU etc are good enough to compete with the S Class in KOFXI.

So US KOFXI S Class Looks like this:

Gato, Kula, Duo Lon (Leader), Oswald

A Class: Kim, Duck, Eiji, Kyo, Jyazu

original 98 great
in UM too much Krauser but also great balance

In 98 you have too much Daimon so whats your point? :wonder: I’d argue 98UM is a much better balanced game than 98 OG. Some people I think arent playing enough and are sitting on the CPU watching match vids too much. I personally am speaking from 6+ months of playing the game competitively vs. someone…I want people to at least have that amount of play in the game before labelling it as anything… Krauser isn’t unbeatable… He’s just the most flexible character in the game…

Agreed. Except for the Max Impact series, it seemed like most, if not all of the grapplers were OP. I swear that it seemed like SNK didn’t know how to make Goro not OP.

Define totally balanced?

[System_1]

to Dark Geese
agreed but see Krauser in 90% of game this suck
I not say that Krauser too broken.
also I think Goro df+C,qcb+K bug must be bunned in tornament’s play
that original 98 will be more great.

take it easy I know you good player.
I also think 98UM>98 about gameplay,
many bad tier where rise up, top get some down(like Shizuru, Goro and Kyo)
but what game is more balanced for me it’s not clean

[roninwarrior24]

Iori has an infinite. balanced? not really.

Kyo also has an infinite. Doesn’t matter, though, because practically everyone can 100% you on Max mode (damage output goes through the roof when fully charged).

Plus, how long did it take them to finally balance Iori? He seemed broken in a bunch of consecutive games.

I’ll probably say 2k2, though I don’t know how bad/not bad ABC is. At least Angel and May Lee take skill (lots of it, in fact) to play…

[System_1]

lol kof have lots of infinite combo, but it so hard and rare so
Yes It’s OK
at least in 98)

[System_1]

Krauser in 98UM seems no worse then Sagat in SF4. I’m pretty sure one or two UM chars can counterpick Krauser as well.

Also, it’s a team game, so you have three slots. If SFIV was a three on three game, what percentage of teams do you think would have Sagat on them? That’s one reason why we see so many Krausers.

[System_1]

Kof 01 is the most balanced of them all no infinites no noting :rock: lol

[Retekin]

Their argument will be just as shallow as “Kula, Gato and Oswald ruin KOFXI.”
-DG

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the consensus that Oswald’s unblockable DOES ruin the game, thus it’s banned?

[Dandy_J]

to Dark Geese
agreed but see Krauser in 90% of game this suck

Maybe so but every 98 team had either Iori or Daimon, too.

[Half-Ro]

Kof 01 is the most balanced of them all no infinites no noting :rock: lol

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Balance isn’t that important. Just play what you like, op.

[Dark_Geese]

to Dark Geese
agreed but see Krauser in 90% of game this suck
I not say that Krauser too broken.
also I think Goro df+C,qcb+K bug must be bunned in tornament’s play
that original 98 will be more great.

take it easy I know you good player.
I also think 98UM>98 about gameplay,
many bad tier where rise up, top get some down(like Shizuru, Goro and Kyo)
but what game is more balanced for me it’s not clean

I see what you are talking about. Hence overall I don’t watch match vids I don’t like watching… to me its that simple. If I see characters I dont like watching or styles that are “too cookie cutter”…I stop watching…

So I understand what you are saying.

Krauser in 98UM seems no worse then Sagat in SF4. I’m pretty sure one or two UM chars can counterpick Krauser as well.

Also, it’s a team game, so you have three slots. If SFIV was a three on three game, what percentage of teams do you think would have Sagat on them? That’s one reason why we see so many Krausers.

Yes exactly…more than one or two characters can counterpick Krauser…most people havent thought of them yet…

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the consensus that Oswald’s unblockable DOES ruin the game, thus it’s banned?

Yeah Oswalds Unblockable yes…but Oswald IMO is no better than Duo Lon Leader…at one time Oswald dropped to A Class…he takes work to get really good at…and yes so does Duo Lon Leader, but Duo Lon’s LDM is better than Oswalds because he can kill you in so many ways…

Oswalds LDM sure its great and hits anywhere etc… but…it also doesnt favor judgment and alone it cannot kill you.

Duo Lons LDM while sure you can save shift out of it…can kill you straight up… plus it gains meter if you combo after it…making it where you can possibly do two in a row and build meter for your next characters etc.

-DG

[FSgamer]

balance isn’t that important. Just play what you like, op.

qft.

[Lantis]

Plus, how long did it take them to finally balance Iori? He seemed broken in a bunch of consecutive games.

I’ll probably say 2k2, though I don’t know how bad/not bad ABC is. At least Angel and May Lee take skill (lots of it, in fact) to play…

Nah, 2K2 Iori was still pretty damn good… I should know. :sad:

2K3 Iori isn’t all that hot, really…

[Dark_Geese]

Nah, 2K2 Iori was still pretty damn good… I should know. :sad:

2K3 Iori isn’t all that hot, really…

2k3 Iori is good enough to be high tier… Now maybe not quite on Duo Lon’s Tier…but he’s high tier…

-DG

[Hatred_Edge]

Iori didn’t get shafted until KOF XI.

[JackTenrac]

I hate it when people bitch about how SNK fighting game bosses are broken.

• Are we also including the fact that 2k3 and up only give characters 2 supers?

[hanz0]

98, 98UM,2002, 2002 UM

all other games are fun in their own ways.

[Hatred_Edge]

• Are we also including the fact that 2k3 and up only give characters 2 supers?

Incorrect. Several characters have several DMs. Two DMs and 1 LDM and some even have 2 LDMs.

[WINBACK]

Question:

At most KoF XI console tournaments in the US, are unlockable characters banned? Like Mai and EX Kyo?

Thanks.

[Phoenix_Azure]

Question:

At most KoF XI console tournaments in the US, are unlockable characters banned? Like Mai and EX Kyo?

Thanks.

should check the King of Fighters Section for that. Currently, it looks like they’re now allowed.

[Needlecrash]

To me, KOF XI seems pretty balanced.