Modding a Mayflash stick (finished! 1/18/2009)

Thanks Zombie! Also you know if a Fanta stick would fit into the Mayflash?

Hey, I was wondering since some of you know about Mayflashs you could help me on something. I have a custom Si-Tong stick which uses a mayflash PCB board. Does anyone know of a PS2-GCN controller converter that would be compatible with my Si-Tong stick please cause the Magic Path II converter doesn’t register. Thanks.

As far as non-official PCBs and compatibility with converters go, it’s pretty much shooting in complete darkness. There are SO DAMN MANY combinations out there it’s going to be tough finding out what works if it isn’t in the converter thread already (You DID look, right? ;D ). I’d bite the bullet and mod your stick with an official PCB or with the UPCB. Either way good luck man.

I’ve ordered all my parts(I hope) today from LizardLick: the Board , a Sanwa JLF , 6 face buttons, and 3 side ones.

When they arrive, I’ll get started and hopefully everything goes smoothly

I guess converters will work, but the Cthulhu board only has a usb output, right?

quick question. i know this is may sound pretty dumb but does anyone know a way to add weight to this stick? i ask this only b/c im use to american sticks. and for this reason they usually come taller so i can wrap my legs around it. this mayflash is way to small to do so unless i learn to mount on a create or some shit? how do or did you guys deal with the transison anyway i already have 2 anniversary sticks modded and i need more experience with hori so i think imma go with the cheap route for this and get the jlf and deal with the difference. kinda dont understand how did you guys solder in such a tight space. if a solder touches another switch its fucks up right?

edit: another noob question… im looking at the lizard lick website. i know the holes are 28mm but do you think i woudl be able to get away with 24mm and the mold that holds the bottom from the top would be able to cover it being that i can get the 24mm threaded? http://lizardlick.com/images/for_sale/pushbuttons/sanwa_obsn24_orange.jpg (24mm threaded). im asking this just so i dont have to shave although im not sure of the size diffrence in gameplay.

so im ordering

one il euro stick
one happ comp stick i wasnt told witch is better so i guess ill fid out the hard way
one jlf sanwa
6 bottuns for sanwa… waiting from a response from you guys before i make the order thx

and how do i make sure turbo remains off?

i’m already running into trouble. I got my parts, but how would I use Playstation cords, so that I may use my converters?

I will read through the 2 pcb thread when i get back, sometimes I hope for answers, so that I can place an order sooner. I get very little off-time, but im not trying to be rude or anything…

Now would I use a PS DS1 or can I use the PCB that came with it so I can use my dreamcast converter? And While I’m doing this, could I just add a GC controller pcb for Wii compatibility?

Already I’ll need some wire for the buttons, and a USB cord, and screws for everything. I also need to ready what type of things i need for my image and acrylic, but the hardware store is close enough for me to get that anytime. Also, I thought about adding L2&R2 later, with 24mm buttons on the side.

-Update-

I was able to fit my 6 face buttons in, rather sloppily with the rotary tool (dremmel knock off), luckily the button hides the uneveness underneath. I wired everything up to test the board out and it all worked fine, except some buttons did not work, and I’m not sure if it’s because the hot wire was loose, or because I twisted all the grounded cords and linked them together to use one ground post.

For the joystick, i just grinded the mayflash down on the inside, and put it straight against the panel, and screwed right through the top of the stick to get it to stay. I’ll have to either get better screws and bolts, to go through the top, or grind the bottom of the screws off and leave it as is.

I’m going to have to be careful with the Home, Start and Select buttons (L2 and R2 if I decide i need them) because i have to make holes in the sides with the dremmel, and these are snap-ins, so I’ll have to be more careful and precise. The Cthulhu board itself, i’m thinking of using hot glue to get it to somehow stay in place.

I also have been testing, cutting and drilling the acrylic. I am able to make clean cuts with a wheel, without doing too much mess that can’t be sanded, and I drilled successfully without cracking it. The only thing I have to worry about now, is making the holes for the buttons and the stick. My plan is to use a marker and trace my stencil (the original cover on the mayflash) and drill/grind that slowly.

The only thing I’m really lost is the whole 2nd pcb thing. All I really need is that one Playstation cord and I’m set. I just need to wrap my head around that thread that’s already up, but has anyone re-used the pcb in the mayflash already?

I’m almost there! I can feel it…I have so much gratitude to everyone who guided me this far.

Anyone fit a Fanta on one of these yet?

Hopefully brokenhalo or one of you who knows is around, but I’m not positive how to swap the original joystick wiring for the new stick wiring. I’ll try and upload some images if you need details.

I got a PM from Ubo, but I don’t have enough posts to reply, so I’ll just have to answer here and hope he sees it. I edited the first post.

I take it you want to wire up a JLF to the original pcb?

From the top right corner across you’ll see the pcb traces that lead to the direction commands, the ones without lines are the common ground.

the old joystick had 4 pairs of wires going to it. i’m pretty sure the red wires were common ground leads (use a meter to check continuity between them to make sure) so you can cut off all but one and then just match the black wires up to the proper directions on the jlf harness and ground to ground.

on the picture that you posted of your soldering, i’d like to make a suggestion for next time. only strip just enough wire to make the connection to the pad. if you strip too much sheathing, you run the risk of wires touching each other and odd things happening.

and if anybody reading this thread is interested, i have a seimitsu modded mayflash for sale. http://shmups.system11.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24019

Thanks for the advice guys, it helped me figure out the stuff…once my mindset was good, everything just fell into place!

jacks topic

does anybody know where the 5v is on this pcb? i’d like to make a dualmod using this pcb along with a 360 pcb.

also, this stick doesn’t have a Home/XMB button does it? if it doesn’t it’s ok.

last question: is the button configuration the same on both consoles? like is square for the ps2 square on the ps3?

No, the PS3 setting is the 6 on the left, the PS2 is the 6 on the right.

No home button AFAIK.

And I’m not sure where the 5V is, I even modded this thing with an LS-32 but I didn’t see it.

well i’m sure the red wire from the chord to the pcb is the 5v wire correct? i’m sure i can just solder from the other side of that wire and use that for the 5v, i was hoping there’d be another place though =/

also, does anybody know of buttons that would fit in where the start/select buttons would go? they don’t even have to sit flush, they just have to fit in the hole and have places to put wires? possibly SDM-18’s?

So. Thanks for this thread. I just bought a Mayflash to go custom with. I’m pretty stoked about it. I’ll post my results when they’re done.

My Mayflash came in the mail today. Honestly… I really like it. The weight is good… and the actual feel is great in my book. Yeah… new parts are gonna be a must… but busting out some Alpha 3 with it (one of the few fighting games I still have on the Playstation) feels pretty good. I can’t wait to use it as a dual-modded stick.

I have a few questions, though. This goes to those of you who have kept the stock PCB.

Question 1: Have you tested the PS2 output with any PS2->GCN adapters. Since the Cube JoyBox is made by Mayflash, too… I’m guessing it should work just fine… but I don’t have one to test. My unbranded PS2->GCN/Xbox adapter doesn’t work with it. Basically… I need to know if the stock PCB works with any adapters (but I’m primarily interested in the Cube JoyBox).

Question 2: Is there a way to actually use the buttons on the top row when wiring out for my second PCB? I like the buttons there… no complaints whatsoever from me. Can I run a wire from the contact points on the stock PCB for that top row of four menu-esque buttons out to the 360 PCB I’ll be adding to the case?

It’s not the end of the world if I can’t use those buttons, but they’d be nice to have.

All the same… I’m really excited about this project. Now I just have to wait for Lizard Lick to ship out my parts. Going Sanwa buttons (the screw tightened style) with a Semitsu LS-32-01. I was planning on going Happ buttons, but realized that they’re too long to fit in the case… which is definitely a problem.

Any help with my questions would be greatly appreciated. I’ll post up the results of my project (along with a few tips from my experience) when it’s done. :tup: