Well damn tell us how you really feel. Sad but true.
A judge at EVO will usually start sending players to the loser’s bracket or DQing once the bracket is blocked.
If there are other matches to play, then play them.
Once the bracket is blocked and you can’t keep going without the person missing, that’s when you start making decisions.
There are exceptions with international players or people who don’t speak English in general.
I understand your points, but wouldn’t you agree that if you would have consulted with people who actually run these things like Keits, The Cannons, etc etc, there would have been very simple things that you could have adopted that would have helped the event greatly??
I don’t really understand how come the MLG didn’t do their research on how does the FGC usually run its events even though there was lots of attention to the situation, and I can imagine you already knew that everybody was going to be watching with big expectations.
Yes… then NO
Just see my previous post. Ill explain further if needed but business is business.
speaking strictly on the MLG stream I thought it was AWFUL. commercials after every set simply will not work you lose the flow of the tournament. On top of that it wasn’t just a 30sec ad, it was a whole advertisement segment as long as the stupid set
on top of the commericals when they came back it wasn’t a match all of the time. It would just be the commentators talking and than another commercial.
LOL i thought i was the only one who felt this way,i used to call them the bling bling era…im guessing your a generation x or like me a generation rage…to funny…this post made my day before i pass the fuck out…Its just exceptable to be a baby man bitch in 2011.
And you still don’t know what hyperbole is.
HAVs post needs to be frontpage
shit’s sad.
No, I think the idea is that he censored his post ahead of time.
FUCK THAT SHIT.
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Seriously though, the only real controversy with eSports from the start was who would be in control.
Evo & friends want to do it at their own pace and under their own control, and were using their bully pulpit in order to try to achieve that goal, and its interesting to see people come around and realize that we’re already there.
The secret is, it’s simply not a bad thing on its own.
Esports events don’t ruin your enjoyment of the game, or ruin the local you’ve been going to for years. It’s an extra layer that honestly will never directly effect 96% of us.
Do your own thing, keep going to local events, play in smalltime tournaments, MLG won’t destroy those any more than Evo did.
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Actually I’ll go further, people need to use this as an opportunity. Take the extra exposure, recruit players you see online, emphasize the ‘local’ aspect of things. You can draw folks in that would never have known about your events in a million years. The scene was always 2-tiered, we just need to take ownership of local character.
I agree. There are people over here in Scotland going “fuck Esports” like as if what happened in the US matters over here. It won’t stop me going to casuals every week and seeing the guys I know.
A classic tale of every gen thinking the current one is weak. I was really hoping for something original and based in facts not anecdotes. Not sure why anyone would miss everyone being an ass for the sake of being an ass unless there were also an ego fueled ass.
FACT- The players from the previous generation are still winning everything. There has been no Justin Wong, Combofiend or Ricky Ortiz to rise up and take on the previous generation, like they did to Valle/Choi/Eddie Lee. Chris G is the closest thing… but when you learn that he actually came up in Chinatown Fair (the same cut-throat environment that crafted the last generation’s best players), he loses new-school cred.
And it’s not about being an ass for the sake of being an ass. it’s about NOT having to refrain from saying/doing things you want to do (all in good fun) in favor of the sensitivities of pussies that contribute little to nothing.
Wouldn’t matter if a new player rose, though we’ve had a few. Any time a new guy beats an old pick the game sucks and is scrubby and player x wouldn’t have won if he played the games the old pick did when they were young.
Really…I see that from way more new people.
Edit: HAV beat me to it.
The current gen is quite weak…I don’t recall so many hand holding back in the days.
No new blood has risen up because they want to follow the leader.
Back then it wasn’t about following the top players at youtube or twitter…it was about beating them in the arcades.
Learning from your loss…instead of whining about it on forums days after you bought the game.
No one wants to put in the work to be tournament level anymore…
Further FACT: Most of them actually are not. There’s a very small group of tip-top players and that group gets added to very slowly… which is how it’s always been. 9/10ths, probably actually way more of the old players will never and have never been seriously competitive or special, in the same way as the new players. There are maybe 1-2 a year, its just spread so thinly amongst all the various games that there are now.
Random guy who registered with SRK in 2002 does not get to equate himself with Ricky Ortiz, nor does the guy who was playing SFA in 1995.
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And again, nothing is stopping you from doing whatever you want at your own local events, and if there is, take it up with the other people there. Don’t let the majors define you.
Edit: geese pants, it wasn’t about that because there wasn’t youtube or twitter to follow. You had your local arcade, maybe a FAQ off of usenet… and plenty of people were never able to raise their game to the top local level, let alone major winning level.
It still blows my mind that people bought combo and tutorial videos back in the day… it’s like the people you’re complaining about with youtube, but you actually had to put $$$ up for it!
(further edit: And there were plenty of folks out there that didn’t even know who the ‘oldschool’ top players even were! Standards are much higher now than they were back in the good times… and believe me, I’m 100% with you that those were the good times)
Not sure how people sharing information over social networks is making people weaker. Anyone that RELIES on such things wouldn’t have found them anyway and would have been just as weak in 1997 as 2007. All it is is another tool. No different than watching someone or going up to someone and asking. Unless people withheld more information in the past than I can’t comment on that. Most of it isn’t even by top players just people interested in breaking down a game.
I still don’t understand how we say no new blood has risen when we’ve had several majors won by new players in recent years.
Ever heard the phrase “save that shit for nationals”?
Heard it all the time. It’s just a different theory on components of competition.
It arguably hurt everyone involved anyways, and people could do it now if they so choose.
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They just don’t because others will discover and share that information, making their attempt at secrecy moot.