MLB (Baseball) 2009 (including fantasy leagues)

daydrinker · August 13, 2009, 10:09am

Eh you all coulda easily lost tonights game so whatever. We had a lot more scoring opportunities, we were 1-14 you all were 1-8 with RISP. 1-14!!! Ridiculous.

matrix9280 · August 13, 2009, 12:28pm

His ERA is at 2.27. He also has a WHIP just under 1. I get what you’re thinking. Chris Carpenter is now 2nd in the NL Cy Young race but still way behind Lincecum. There’s still time though. With late August and September rolling around there’s still time. If Tim wilts under pressure (physically and mentally) down the stretch and Chris Carpenter stays unhittable then he has a small chance to take the Cy Young award.

matrix9280 · August 13, 2009, 7:39pm

Arroyo admits risk on supplementsComment Email Print Share ESPN.com news services

Cincinnati Reds pitcher Bronson Arroyo, who last month admitted to using a now-banned supplement earlier in his career, says he uses a number of over-the-counter supplements not on baseball’s approved list, according to a USA Today report.

“I have a lot of guys in [the locker room] who think I’m out of [my] mind because I’m taking a lot of things not on the [MLB-approved] list,” Arroyo said, according to the report. “I take 10 to 12 different things a day, and on the days I pitch, there’s four more things. There’s a caffeine drink I take from a company that [ex-Boston Red Sox teammate] Curt Schilling introduced me to in '05. I take some Korean ginseng and a few other proteins out there that are not certified. But I haven’t failed any tests, so I figured I’m good.”

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I can see where guys like Hank Aaron and some of the old-timers have a beef with it. But as far as looking at Manny Ramirez like he’s [serial killer] Ted Bundy, you’re out of your mind. At the end of the day, you think anybody really [cares] whether Manny Ramirez’s kidneys fail and he dies at 50?

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– Bronson Arroyo

The players union and the commissioner’s office have a certification program for supplements and have advised players to stick to the list, lest they risk suspension and potentially millions of dollars. Arroyo has heard the warnings, but they haven’t changed his mind, according to the report.

“I do what I want to do and say what I want to say,” Arroyo said, according to the report. “But society has made this such a tainted thing. The media has made it where people look at it in such a super-negative light. I’ve always been honest. I’m not going to stop now.”

Arroyo, who is 10-11 with a 5.04 ERA, is slated to start against the Washington Nationals on Thursday night.

Last month, after The New York Times reported Arroyo’s ex-teammates David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez were on a list of players allegedly testing positive for now-banned substances in 2003, Arroyo told the Boston Herald that he had used androstenedione and amphetamines before they were banned in 2004 and 2006, respectively.

Arroyo says he believes he is also on the 2003 list, as there were rumors at the time that andro taken by some ballplayers was tainted with steroids. He said he took it anyway because it helped him gain weight and strength, according to USA Today.

“Man, I didn’t think twice about it,” he said, according to the report. “I took androstenedione the same way I took my multivitamins. I didn’t really know if this was a genius move by Mark McGwire to cover up the real [stuff] he was taking, but it made me feel unbelievable. I felt like a monster.”

Arroyo said he started taking amphetamines in 1998 when he was in the minors – and he’d still be taking them if they were not banned.

“That stuff’s like bubblegum compared to steroids,” he said, according to the report. “You’re playing [night games] in L.A., you fly across the country, and you’re pitching a day game at Wrigley [Field in Chicago]. You telling me you don’t want something to wake you up? You have half this country, maybe more, that can’t function without a cup of coffee.”

According to the report, Arroyo said fans and the media seem more concerned with the sanctity of the game’s records than whether the substances will hurt players later on.

“I can see where guys like Hank Aaron and some of the old-timers have a beef with it,” Arroyo said, according to the report. “But as far as looking at Manny Ramirez like he’s [serial killer] Ted Bundy, you’re out of your mind. At the end of the day, you think anybody really [cares] whether Manny Ramirez’s kidneys fail and he dies at 50?”

“You were happy if the Red Sox won 95 games. You’d go home, have a cookout with your family. No big deal,” he said, according to the report.

As for the potential health risks? “It might be dangerous,” he said, according to the report, “but so is drinking and driving. And how many of us do it at least once a year? Pretty much everybody.”

Arroyo, according to the report, also said the game’s owners care about winning and making money – and not necessarily in that order.

“If Mark McGwire is hitting 60 homers, the only thing that matters is his performance,” Arroyo said, according to USA Today. “People don’t own teams to lose money. If you ask any owner whether they would rather make $20 million and come in last place or lose $20 million and win a World Series, there’s only one guy who honestly would take that championship: George Steinbrenner. Nobody else.”

Bronson Arroyo is looney tunes but a straight shooter. I agree with him. People are gonna do whatever to get an edge. They should legalize everything. Steroids, HGH (which is untestable right now anyway), greenies, all of it.

rsigley · August 13, 2009, 11:55pm

damn why pavano only average today

one bad inning we still love u

matrix9280 · August 14, 2009, 12:49am

He wasn’t playing the Tigers or White Sox.

Rex0r · August 14, 2009, 10:15am

lmao at the cubbie fan throwing a beer all over the flyin haiwain. Whats the call if he drops that ball?

I_Am_Lothar · August 14, 2009, 1:47pm

An out.

imo.

Rex0r · August 14, 2009, 2:16pm

yeah its gotta be, reminds me of when the cards had just picked up JD.Drew and where playing in philly. It was “battery night” at the stadium(are u fucking serious?) and he was getting pelted all night.

matrix9280 · August 15, 2009, 4:21am

Good series’ this weekend.

Phillies @ Braves
Red Sox @ Rangers
Rockies @ Marlins

The standings could wind up looking quite differently come Monday morning.

Du_Fugitive · August 15, 2009, 5:02am

Rule 3.16 just whooped your ass.
umm…

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/game_preliminaries_3.jsp
When there is spectator interference with any thrown or batted ball, the ball shall be dead at the moment of interference and the umpire shall impose such penalties as in his opinion will nullify the act of interference.
APPROVED RULING: If spectator interference clearly prevents a fielder from catching a fly ball, the umpire shall declare the batter out.

Nori · August 15, 2009, 10:26am

I’ll be a very happy man to see Yankees vs Dodgers in the World Series.

System_1 · August 16, 2009, 1:07am

You’re going to be disappointed to see Yankees vs Phillies. I won’t be though.:tup: Phillies vs Dodgers will be good though.

ThePurpleBunny · August 16, 2009, 1:19am

Fuck that. Red Sox vs Rockies part II: Low Ratings get Lower.

Mel Gibson and Danny Glover must stop Bud Selig from using his weather machine to cause game 4 from ending in a tie.

Rex0r · August 16, 2009, 1:36am

phillies and cards both >>>>> dodgers
We’ll see you soon LA :tup:

Du_Fugitive · August 16, 2009, 2:45am

Ouch. David Wright. Ouch.

Beaned in the head with a 94 mph Cain fastball.

Rex0r · August 16, 2009, 2:54am

oh noes, thompson has a pitch go a little too close to new yorks golden boy and gets 3 game suspension. wonder how this will go down…

Rune_Kai · August 16, 2009, 8:14am

Did anyone see Kuroda get nailed? God that looked painful…

Obi-one-drunkobe · August 19, 2009, 5:45am

pray to the baseball gods cards yankee world series

Nori · August 19, 2009, 8:55pm

I’d like to see the Dodgers in the WS simply because of the history and of course, Joe Torre. Obviously, I’d like to see the Yankees in there cause I have the damn team tattooed on my right arm haha.

Yeah, I saw that dude get blasted in the head. Hope he’s ok

rsigley · August 24, 2009, 12:56am

carl pavano is back!!!