MLB (Baseball) 2009 (including fantasy leagues)

It’s not. And I’m only saying that because I don’t have working headphones for my PC.

Yep, and he probably start a new streak tonight. But dammit! I just wanted to hear something on ESPN that isn’t Yankee, Red Sox, or Cubs related.

Well, I’m back to getting that ill feeling in my stomach everytime I turn the O’s on. I mean c’mon, guys go through slumps, but the whole fucking team??? So much potential there and they are beyond terrible. At least Luke Scott can still hit the damn ball. Still waiting on Wieters to start hitting also. He hasn’t been up long enough for me to really start worrying, I guess I bought into the hype a bit too much. I do like him behind the plate though. Calls nice quick games.

lol brad lidge

Lights on Lidge baby!

And now the game will never ever end.

That is until Chan Ho Park comes in.

EDIT - Oh Andre Either.

dodgers should of won in the 10th

1st/2nd 0 outs, bottom of inning tied game 1 runwins = BUNT

of course they don’t, russel martin gets out then next guy deep fly ball which would of scored the run

Adam Lund does it again baby!!!

Indeed he did.

Gotta admit though, the second HR looked like a regular fly ball, but it got a ton of carry tonight.

Also, the Draft is tomorrow, here’s hoping the Jays can restock their lower farm teams with some quality talent. Plus, it’s really good to hear that Beeston is going to allow the Jays to pay overslot to get prospects for once.

Yanks take 2-1 vs TB. I don’t see TB making the playoffs w/the way the Sox/Yanks are playing.

as much as I hate to admit I agree. The Yanks are hitting their stride it seems and the Sox have been consistent all year. The Rays pitching this year is very inconsistent and they can’t seem to get more than 1 game over .500

The Jays smoke the Rangers yet again, with Hills and Lind raking it.

They also drafted 4 pitchers in the Draft today (along with a corner OF), with 2 being Canadian. Notably they took James Paxton with their compensation pick for losing Burnett to the Yankees. He was rated as high as a Top 10 pick, so I’m pretty happy about that. He’s a lefty (just keep stacking them J.P -.-) whose got a 94-95 mph fastball with a solid curveball. His agent is Boras, so we’ll see how that turns out, but it’s nice to go after these prospects, without being limited in terms of money.

I kept hearing that Paxton was possibly going to be our first pick…why did he fall so far? Signibility because of Boras?

How much is Strasburg going to ask from the Nationals? $10 million? $20 million? It’s insane to me that the club has absolutely zero leverage here - he could reject whatever offer they give him, re-enter the draft next year, and still be drafted first overall.

The draft is really the only thing about baseball I don’t really care about…it’ll be like three years before you even hear the names of these guys again. I already have absolutely no memory of the draft from the last two years.

Yeah Baseball draft is so poopy. You have no idea who anyone is and then you get to hear abotu them rape the clubs and do whatever they want.

They just started playing, they should get some sort of NBA pay equivalent for where they were drafted.

I know there are liek 3 billion picks but they could figure it out.

I honestly think the Rays are better than most teams in the AL still, but the playoff system for baseball only allows 1 Wild Card team, which I don’t agree w/at all.

Paxton fell exactly because of Boras.
I like our 4th pick, I forget his name atm, but hes an OF and he seems pretty happy on Twitter to be a Jay.

Strasburg may command anywhere from 20-40 Million, considering that they have the leverage in this situation as the Nationals need pitching bad, and he would instantly (I mean right now) become their number one, it’s that bad.

I enjoy the draft because I find it interesting to follow these guys through the minors, I enjoy seeing farm talent turn into stars, ala Halladay.

As for the draft, it really depends on the talent level, more and more we are seeing guys like Price or Gordon Beckham come up a few months after being drafted. Hell, the Jays drafted Cecil in 2007 and he came up this year, so that only took a year and a half. We might even see our 2008 first pick, David Cooper this year if we were to fall off. Of course, I rather not see that happen :rofl:

So fellow Mariners fans do you think we should let Griffey get more rest? dude isnt exactly hitting much for a DH in the 4th spot. I have all the respect for the soon-to be hall of famer but hes well past his prime. we need somebody with more upside.

and when is Johjima coming back? hes not the most consistent of hitters but randomly somedays hell go 3-4 1 hr 3 rbis and shit.

we need more offense. im sick of seeing us lose these 1 run games

Indians beat the Royals last night 4-3 off a walk-off single that Coco Crisp couldn’t field because it hit a seagull.

Why are the Royals even playing with a flock of seagulls in the outfield like that? I think fault goes to Royals manager Trey Hillman for not requesting this stupid flock of seagulls to be removed before play continued. I think Crisp would have easily gunned him out at home if he got to it clean - runner was only on third when it got to him, he was playing shallow.

Holy cow, I was thinking like $10-15 million…anything more than that is nuts.

So if the Nationals don’t sign him, I think they get the second overall pick next year…and they’re on track right now to end up as the worse team in the majors and end up with the top overall pick next year too.

But the thing I don’t know is…if a team can’t sign a player one year, are they allowed to draft him again next year? I’m not sure if they can. Because otherwise the Nationals could just take him again - that would really be the only leverage they’d have here.

That is dumb. The draft in baseball needs to be fixed, this process is a complete joke.

It really doesn’t matter. If they want to pay these guys go ahead. It’s their money to wast. Unlike sports like Basketball and Football there’s very little correlation between a player’s draft status and success in Baseball.

Check out the first round picks of the 2001 Amateur Draft

By my count out of 48 picks there are 5 good players (Texeira, Prior, Mauer, Floyd, Wright). Everyone else is either a journeyman player or never made it to the major leagues at all.

The 2002 draft was somewhat better but the bust rate was pretty high.

Out of 41 players the only players that start or have started in the Major Leagues are BJ Upton, Zach Greinke, Prince Fielder, Jeremy Hermida, Joe Saunders, Khalil Greene, Scott Kazmir, Nick Swisher, Cole Hamels, James Loney, Denard Span, Jeremy Guthrie, Jeff Francoeur, Joe Blanton, Matt Cain, and Mark Teahen. 16 out of 41 or 39% of the players were of any consequence. Not good.

The problem with the MLB draft is that you’re just as likely to find good players later in the draft as you are earlier in the draft. It’s tough to get hyped about these guys when more likely than not they’re going to bust. Especially when it comes to the pitchers.

True, but just because bad methodology seemingly produces the same type of random results…doesn’t mean you just give up on it and don’t fix it.

For instance, from that 2002 group, Scott Kazmir was arguably the best pitcher of the draft class but fell to 15th solely because of signibility issues. If teams sticked to slot more or if there was a system in place in the CBA that didn’t allow unsigned rookies and their agents to screw over major league teams, Kazmir could have gone to the Reds, Orioles, Nationals, or the Royals, or any of the half dozen teams drafting before he was actually taken.

True, baseball draft’s still a crapshoot just because of the nature of the game…but you can’t ignore this blatant flaw that allows this to happen every single draft. Yeah, not every guy who slips because he’s asking for too much money ends up being the next Kazmir, but the fact that it happens AT ALL is ridiculous.

Signability is a bigger issue than you’re making it out to be. Even if it affects only like the 1/3 of the potential MLB players in the first round, that’s big. It happens EVERY draft and they’ve been drafting since 1965!

Why should teams with big payrolls who can afford to always go above slot benefit even more in the draft than the small payroll teams? The draft is supposed to equlize talent, by giving small market teams the first shot at guys because they can’t spend big money on free agents…but then you’re giving the big payroll teams the advantage there too? It’s retarded.

Lol seagull assist ;/. Remember when those swarm of insects appeared in Cleveland in the playoffs against the Yankees? I think it really bothered Joba and he gave up a run or 2 late in the game.