MK9 Tier List discussion thread

Scrubby question, I hope to pick this up soon:

Who are some of the best all around characters? I’m not talking about characters that have easy damage or have an infinite. I’m talking about characters that can counter keep away, counter’s Subzero’s Ice Clone Zoning, and can get in if I make a good read. So far it looks like Scorpion, Ermac, and maybe Cyrax would be good fits. I’m willing to check out Kano and Sheeva, gotta’ support the grapplers.

Yea he seems best against players that cant teleport to you. Cyber Sub I would argue can be good against him just because of the teleport.
I saw 1 guy I played actually be aggressive with Noob but it felt awkward.

I’d argue Cyber Sub would be good vs Noob because of his divekicks. 18% on reaction for jumping over a shadow from further than a jump punch can reach? Yes plz. :slight_smile:

Cyber Sub is practically Yun designed for MK. Stupid good offense.

That dive kick stuff is insane lol. Can’t believe people actually thought Cyber Sub and Sub-Zero were weak in this game.

Sonya also has a dive kick but I’m not sure it’s as good. Haven’t seen much high level Sonyas yet.

It’s ok, but then again im not sure how good cyber sub dive kick is in comparison. It much more safe than lao’s dk on block, but it alot like Rufus’s as far as the arc goes. Sonya’s strength lay in her pressure.

Won’t see a Boss Shang for a while, there just a ton of information to absorb, so it will take a bit of time but besides that Shang’s good, he gets crushed by Cyber Sub Zero (think Bison vs Guile but worse) and even Tom himself says there is nothing Shang can do against the robot.

Ermac is probably the best all-around character imo.

^hes mixs ups for highs and lows are bad I hear.

The best all around character is Reptile the way I see it, he can zone, rush, got great strings mix ups etc.

It would have to be either Sub or Reptile for most all-around characters.

What about Liu Kang?

i think he loses hard to superior zoning. if he doent have a life lead, he dosent get around projectiles well. no teleport, or anything that goes thru fireballs

Yeah, Kang doesn’t necessarily have a great time against zoning.

True. I think I’m going to try Nightwolf. He seems like he has everything. Safe strings, strong answer to zoning, high damage combos, EX unblockable that launches, decent projectile…

Tier lists are only so useful. Kano all day for me. Even if he isn’t S tier he’s a righteous good time :smiley:

He’s also really good against Liu Kang. I think Ermac is the better keep away character, but what does he have once the opponent gets in? Does Ermac have a good wake-up attack?

Ermac’s wakeup attack leads to around 30-35%. His wakeup game is definitely solid.

Ermac has 312. It is one of the few strings that lead to safe jump remaining in the game. It’s meant to get you to block, so that you can throw them back out, allowing you to get back to zoning.

You could make a case for Johnny Cage being pretty good all-rounder, too. I mean I hate him.
Saying he isn’t good is just stupid though. High/Low Projectile, fast closing with SK, gtfo with his flash kick thingie, and awesome rushdown… what do more do you want for all arounder?

His zoning is fairly limited…he falls behind fast in projectile trades, since he has worse recovery than most characters. He is ridiculous up close, though…flashkick is actually difficult to punish for some characters, and his offense is crazy solid. Plus the downright dirtiness of his X-Ray, lol.

Cyber Sub for me. Divekick to fight zoners. Slide and parry on wakeup with invincible frames. Combo off of fast lows and overheads. One of the fastest dashes in the game.

Just wasn’t clicking with any character, even with Ermac (who is the coolest Mk character ever) till I gave Cyber Sub a go. Crazy though…dlc characters are already on the horizon. I will try out Tanya and Rain for sure

^what makes you think they will be DLC?