Milwaukee: Too grimey for the rest of WI

Sway - That’s Vanilla. He got buffed in Ultimate, but not enough to be more than lower-mid. Still has the same problems opening people up without a REALLY good assist, especially if they know the match-up vs Cap. His main advantage is the ability to kill once he does hit…but he has to hit you, and everything he does is ultra punishable to someone who knows the match.

I’m not looking at it thinking it’s the final word. I’m looking at it as a representative list of the community’s opinion.

And sorry guys, I don’t play MVC3 so I didn’t know it was Vanilla. :frowning: Owch.

… Where did your post go, Matt?

Here’s my modified tier list for UMVC3:

Instead of being a waterhead, maybe you should read what you’re actually posting.

Deleted it because Hogosha pretty much stated what I had to say about Cap already. At least this tier list makes sense. Well as much sense as a tier list for a game that has only been out for 1 month can make anyways.

Matt: There are people that are doing it, and are “waterheads”. :>

Man, I still wish I lived in CA while 3s was Hype. I would have loved to watch Ricky Ortiz and Pyrolee go at it live.

I thought this for the first couple weeks (my main team is Cap/Thor or Haggar/Ryu) of Ultimate. Double-jump helps in crossing people up, yes, but once they know what Cap can do they start keeping away from the situation of getting crossed up by double-jump j.d.H or j.S. And with the high/low mix-up out of the way, they just have to watch for his range with assist cross-ups and he’s dead before he’s started. If, however, you do push them to the corner and keep them grounded for a second or guess correctly which way they’ll roll after a hard knockdown, Cap is SCARY. But no more scary than any other character and much less than others. He gets one mix-up opportunity from an assist while most other characters get two or three. After a character kill in the corner and with a proper assist (someone who hits high enough like Thor/Haggar/Dante), that’s where he truly shines as he can kill most with a meter and anyone else with LVL1XFC.

All of this said, he has no great way to get in outside of double-jump and a somewhat average wavedash, and he auto-loses to a number of characters willing to play the lame game (i.e. Wesker or Zero). At this point, he has to change his game to high-risk/high-reward, and considering most of the game is low-or-no-risk/high-reward…there’s where Cap fits in the grand scheme of things. And much like MVC2, top-tier is high-tier, high-tier is mid-tier and anything less is a joke or an assist at best.

Edit - Marn said it best on GPHP Friday night. “Cap isn’t the best character in the game, maybe mid-tier at best…but he’s the funnest character in the game!”

Hopefully 3S players will be more pro active about attending tourneys. We went from having a lot of people showing up to only like 4 people there for it this month.

whats your team now? and hows the captain America synergy on your team?

and modok is the funniest character in the game. his combos are the longest in the game.

Cap/Thor/Ryu for now. Might run someone else instead of Thor. Maybe Wright/Cap/Ryu? Hawkeye/Cap/Ryu or Cap/Hawkeye/Ryu? I like Cap and Ryu right now too much, and I’ve invested too much time into both for me to just drop them because they aren’t that good.

Also, KOF13 may or may not be a great game, but it’s DEFINITELY a long game. Almost as long as CVS2.

Edit - Assists are Thor’s Mighty Smash and Ryu’s Hurricane Kick. Both work great with Cap. I rarely ever tag Cap out, but he’s got Shield Slash. Thor is just there for the assist, mainly, and to possibly get/eat some damage before Ryu comes in to clean up as anchor.

Play games you like. Play characters you like.

how about more talk about actually playing games? this is a regional MATCHMAKING forum for a reason

last time we started discussing sf3 strategy in here i think someone got offended and told us to make our own forum. Game discussion is frowned upon in these parts, generally. Well sf3, anyways.

GGS to my guy Hayward and Tim. That Makoto is friggin SCARY. Hayward I know you don’t post much, but if you see this work on your hit confirms with chun, and you will be able to place in tournaments. Chun is too easy.

Far as the tournament goes, I’d like to have come but my girl locked her keys in her car, so we couldn’t go. Gonna try n make the next one, even tho its on my birthday. Should be fun.

We’re all Mexicans right now. KOF! KOF! KOF!

Who wants to get some games in on Live?

I’ll play you in Avatar Fighter Online. :stuck_out_tongue:

I’ll play anything but Avatar Fighter Online.

JUSTIN WONG. nuff said

Looks like a banana cream pie that Pinocchio’d it’s way into becoming a real boy.

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