Microsoft Windows 10 thread

theyll run fine, youre just getting narcd on. when they stop working, thats when you know its too late to run.

Anyone use virtual desktop yet?

I’ve set up two extra desktops but I keep forgetting to actually use them, shame on me.

MS announced that they’re developing WebM and VP9 support for Edge. Basically they’re going all in with HTML5 video. Silverlight is dead.

I like Edge. It’s just a really tough sell when I l already have Chrome and FF fully stacked with extensions/add-ons. Even when Edge gets extensions (which is supposed to be soon) it will have a long way to go support wise.

Things should start getting pretty interesting soon. A lot of new stuff will be added by the time Spring rolls around.

Still keeping my desktop on 7 fuck you, Bill.

If you have to disable that much why use it in the first place seriously? At least wait till it’s better or stick with windows 7 like I’m doing now.

I see no reason whatsoever to upgrade to 10 when I have exactly 0 problems using 7. Don’t fix whats not broken applies here, at least for me.

Back in the day, Twitter updated their app a couple times within a several year span on Windows 8. They’ve already updated it 3 or so times since Windows 10 dropped.

Funny how companies are suddenly not lazy.

Has anyone tried Windows 10 on a surface pro 3? I recently got mine and 8.1 was the installed OS with the free upgrade to 10 ready to go? Any negative impacts to updating?

My main concern is impact on the ram usage, speed etc.

One thing MS needs to step up with is changelogs. New cumulative update dropped yesterday, which is the 6th or 7th since Windows 10 launch. But without changelogs, most won’t know wtf is different or improved.

They’re really setting themselves up for failure when a patch breaks something on a user’s device and they can’t determine how/why.

Has anyone else noticed that, sometimes when you hover over a taskbar item for a program, and it shows the preview window, taking the mouse cursor off the taskbar does not result in the preview going back to hidden? I’ve been seeing this happen a lot and the only way to make it go back to normal is to close one of the open windows / programs. Not even a specific one, closing any of them will make the taskbar preview act right.

If I never used Windows 7, I would like Windows 10 a lot more. But there have been a thousand instances where I was frustrated with 10 because something that I’d done every day in Windows 7 didn’t work anymore, or was a pain to fix.

It seems user-friendly enough, moreso for new users. Well, probably most users, until they run into a problem. The tradeoff is that if you want to do more advanced tweaking, the simple change you could have made last week will now require varying amounts of patience and googling.

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Pros: General Performance
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[] + Booting up is noticeably faster and smoother than before. Win10 seemed to take a whole week scanning all of my files in the background, but I was very happy with the results afterward.
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] + Directories and thumbnails seem to load noticeably faster.
[] + I run a dual-monitor setup, and the taskbar now runs across both screens. Big improvement for me.
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] + Search feature seems better. You can still find msconfig or cmd and other files and applications, but web searches and automatic suggestions are added.
[*] + Microsoft Edge is good.
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Cons: Compatibility issues
Automatic updates roll hardbody. You lose the ability to pick and choose which updates are downloaded. All updates are automatically downloaded and installed. Your only options now are whether or not you want to be notified to restart after they’re downloaded. The alternative to this is to download and install a 3rd party program to cripple your automatic updates, which isn’t the most attractive prospect, either. But the auto-updates don’t usually cause any issues, unless they do;
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[] - I tried to roll back a video driver because the newer one was causing an issue in one of my programs, but Windows kept updating and installing the new version of the driver.
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] - My mouse is no longer supported by Microsoft Mouse & Keyboard Center, which means that I can no longer set functions for my extra mouse buttons without 3rd party software (or without buying a new mouse). It is not possible to roll back to a previous version of the program (see above).

[] - A lot of programs didn’t want to install, regardless of compatibility settings. Turns out there’s a glitch involving the Windows 10 audio settings. The default audio theme has to be active, otherwise you will get installation errors, even if the program has nothing to do with audio. Weird.
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] - There is an issue with display resolution, where lots of programs will have a noticeably blurry display depending on your DPI/size settings (now locked to 100%, 125% or 150% instead of being variable). There is a fairly easy fix [that you shouldn’t have to do in the first place], but you’ll have to do it on a program-by-program basis. Also, it doesn’t fix several Windows applications. So if you use Resource Monitor, Device Manager etc, you will have to lump it.
[*] - There is some input delay, at least in windowed applications (ie. the FinalBurn emulator used in Fightcade/GGPO). There was also an increase between XP and Win7, but in Win7 you could disable aero in the display settings to cut down on it. That option is not available in Windows 10.
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Ergonomics are a mixed bag;
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[] +/- Media player (Groove) seems to play a wide variety of file types and seems simple and low-impact. But the seek bar is huge and blocks the bottom half of the video, and it fails disappear quickly when you’re no longer hovering over it (fine for audio, bad for video). It also lacks some of the most basic features found in Windows Media Player and every other program of the type- the idea that you can open files at will through the menu or CTRL+O etc.
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] + Task Manager looks great and includes more info from Resource Monitor, and also Startup Manager. It still doesn’t go as quite in-depth, but it’s definitely a welcome buff.
[] + You can now get into various system tools by right-clicking on the Start button (Disk Manager, command prompt etc)
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] +/- Default Windows 10 theme and layout looks nice, but there are only 3 themes to choose from, as opposed to Windows 7 shipping with several right out of the gate, with many more available to download from the Microsoft site. To be fair, you can still use the Win 7 themes, except for the “Basic” views, which are nowhere to be found. But you can have different wallpaper for different monitors, which is new.
[] - Pinning programs to the Start menu no longer works the same way. Some of the “most used” programs stick the right in a more conventional way, but any added are added as tiles. Tiles work great on Windows Mobile, but I feel like they should be separate menus. Everything added to the Start menu is added to the tile menu at the bottom, and there’s no “move to top” option. It sorta defeats to the purpose of adding it to the start menu, since it becomes the same amount of time as choosing it from the programs menu. This would be different if I were using a touch screen (you’ll not find a bigger defender of Windows Phone OS than me), but I’m not, so it’s just a slightly gimpier version of Windows 7 so far.
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] - Context menus don’t work the same for programs pinned to Start (as tiles); in Windows 7 if you add Notepad or Word to your Start menu, you can hover over the program and see your most recent text or Word documents. This option still works if a program is in the “most used” section, but does not apply to any tiles.
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edit: FYI there is a Windows 10 changelog here: http://www.thewincentral.com/tag/windows-10/ & http://changewindows.org/ There doesn’t seem to be an official Microsoft one, from what I’ve heard.

There’s no difference between Windows 10 themes and Windows 7 themes, really, so I’m not sure what you mean there. Different wallpapers for different monitors was new to Windows 8. :slight_smile: One of the reasons for not shipping ~20 themes by default is that that’s 1 billion users * 20 themes * whatever size per theme. Huge incredible ungodly amount of wasted space. Download some awesomeness and party on. :tup:

For updates you don’t want or want to block, use the ‘hide updatestool’:

the touchpad on my laptop has freaked out since i upgraded to windows 10.
was playing some CS GO yesterday night in competetive matchmaking and the dpad would
react to the very edge of my hand slightly touching it (it would move the cursor) , and sometimes it would even register
as a “press” , resulting in me once accidentally shooting a teammate in the facking head. :fearful:
none of this happened before , so i hope they fix it soon.

Funny thing… after waiting for certain apps to show up in the Windows Store, I thought to myself… “why bother?” Google Chrome already has those apps I wanted. Now I just stick with the Chrome App Launcher and stopped using native Windows apps.

Let’s say you are running Windows 7, but need to reinstall Windows 7 because of corrupt registries/files or something. Ca you still get a free Windows 10 upgrade after a reinstallation of Windows 7?

Probably not.

So is this why my laptop keeps waking up every 20 minutes or so even though the lid is closed? I didn’t notice it doing that until fairly recently, and did a full scan of the entire hdd thinking it was a trojan or something but it’s kept on doing it.

I honestly should not have upgraded to Windows 10, now I have to constantly restart my pc because Win 10 is constantly taking up huge chunks of my CPU for no reason.