"Men are savage beasts by default and need to be tamed and trained"
What a vile person. With friends like this, who needs enemies?
Iâm a few months away from having a newborn son, Iâm not going to teach him to fight for a society that despises him. Women want to import their slavers, then they can be slaves under the banner of Islam. My son wonât be fighting the war they imported.
Youâre completely missing the point of the article. Guys who categorize themselves as âniceâ usually have ulterior motives and most women can sniff that out. They have to. Chicks who canât suss that shit out get murked. The reason a lot of women date âassholesâ (which is subjective because a lot of times, itâs like the article says, 'hes only an asshole to YOU because youâre jealous") is because those guysnare usually up front and honest about what they want and women know where they stand with them. Thereâs a lot less to figure out.
I used to be sort of a ânice guyâ in terms of not inviting confrontation, but my last relationship, she and I got into screaming matches and Iâd never done that before. But it was awesome in a way because then we werenât afraid of telling each other exactly what we wanted or needed and for the most part, were pretty fulfilled. If you donât say what you want and just go Ong with what she wants, youâre not being an active member of the relationship, and dudes that do that get cheated on because she wants a real man not some pussyboy whoâs going to let her walk all over him. Women need limits and a chick will only act as retarded as you let her.
This article is women saying exactly what they think and what they want, and yâall are acting like theyâre wrong and that you know better. If someone tells you what they want, you should believe them. Because they know themselves better than you probably ever will.
âNiceâ guys arenât nice guys, theyâre pussies who use that to get what they want but get mad when it doesnât work. Thereâs a lot of truth in that article and not wanting to hear it is why a lot of dudes donât get girls. I wouldnât want a chick who came on saying and doing a lot of the same things those nice guys do. Iâve had chicks come on like that and itâs fucking annoying because you KNOW they arenât doing what theyâre doing because theyâd be doing it anyway, theyâre doing it because they think it will get them in the door.
Spergy dudes who canât take a hint and think they deserve to get laid for spewing some bullshit PUA line they saw in a video at some chick ruin it for the rest of us who CAN talk to a female without cumming in our pants or wilding out if she shoots us down. The sooner you learn to be up front and honest about what you want instead of being âniceâ and the sooner you stop taking it wrong if you donât get it, the easier your life is gonna be. That article should be stickied.
oh Iâm not missing the pointâŚ
ThisâŚ
was answered by thisâŚ
which then was answered by thisâŚ
âŚand into the article in question.
yes, there is a point, but as unto the tip of an iceberg.
Now, those,âNiceâ guys youâre describing? Theyâre doing the same shit. Acting. As far as Iâm concerned, they donât count. They want to be puas, but theyâre going in the wrong direction. If people wanna play game, then by all means play. Just learn how. I canât speak for everyone, but I know Iâve broken a few scouters being a nice guy. You know, opening doors, being courteous, etc. Not trying to get any ass out of it, just who I wanted to be because I saw these things as right. Unfortunately, there is no way to tell the difference between a nice guy and a creep trying to get laid just by looking at them.
That thing you said about not inviting confrontations tho. I feel ya. that is something that both men and women should do in a relationship. and by âthatâ i mean tell each other what they want from each other and be honest about it. I know I probably did sidestep some arguments that I shouldnât have as well without knowing what I know now.
âŚâSpergyâ? :wtf: I admit that is the first and only time Iâve ever heard that word, and yet I already know what it means. :wtf:
The kind of guys you described are just the other side of the coin. They think they deserve something from women while their female counterparts think they deserve something from men. both of these kinds of people need to be woke up with a cold glass of reality and a serving of truth. With luck, it happens while theyâre young.
I guess the only Thing I can add is that the major problem I see for most genuine nice guys is that they are usually naive. People like that will all but certainly get used and abused, as was a major point brought up in the article,âdear girls who are finally ready to date nice guys, we donât want you anymore.â what he was saying is that he gets it now. He knows why women didnât like nice guys when they (the women) were younger, and why they want to date them now that they are older. They can say whatever they want to justify not being with someone. If they are speaking the truth, then fine. Thatâs pretty much all anyone asks for, or should be given. Personally, I think theyâre lashing out, but thatâs only my opinion.
âŚ:Spergy?" :wtf:
-Starhammer-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaje4nPUkfY
âWhen we could no longer find love, we built it.â -Prologue to the upcoming movie, Where all the good men have gone. At this rate, this movie wonât be far off in the future.
-Starhammer-
Every now and again, I dip in here to come out of my comfort zone. Iâm fascinated by the discourse taking place, and that this is the kind of thing I would never have known existed if left to my own devices. I have to wonder about the stigma that has to come with associating oneself with this, though. I canât imagine itâs a popular point of view. How do yâall deal with that?
Popular? Definitely not. Men who go MGTOW are usually seen in a similar light to transgenders which in turn means that you have to have some really thick skin to deal with all the roasting from women and âalpha malesâ they receive on a constant basis. Then again Iâm pretty sure that going MGTOW means youâre so sick of the rules of society that you become completely apathetic to said roasting in the first place. Iâm not entirely sure. Starhammer could give you a way better answer seeing as he actually follows the movement.
Oh, thereâs a stigma alright. Well, more like a list of the same old insults that pop up whenever someone learns about MGTOW.
1: (Most Popular) You canât get no pussy
2: You must hate women
3: Some woman must have hurt you
4: âare you gay?â also "You must be gay."
5: âYouâre just afraidâ
Thatâs just five from the top of my head. After that, thereâs always the same old arguments as to why they donât like this guy or that guy. He looks âCreepy, weird, rapey, etc.â Now, Iâm not saying theyâre outright lying 100 per cent of the time, but these words have been used so much that they sound like nothing more than weak excuses to me, especially when theyâll sit and gush and fawn over KNOWN creeps, weirdos, and even rapists because of things that have nothing to do with oneâs personality, usually either looks, money, or fame. From what Iâve gathered, a lot of the men who end up going MGTOW do so because of what they wanted compared to what they got. A lot of men were out searching for âthe oneâ, but get passed over for superficial reasons. Sometimes, this can come back and bite you.
Matter of fact, Biz Markie made a song about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaFqXp7KlGg
This song is probably older than a lot of us, so that lets you know this isnât new.
-Starhammer-
I think youâre just gay.
Helen of Troy⌠'nuff said.
:tup:
The most epic tale of thirst ever told. A stern lesson of what a million manginas can do when grouped together.
That would explain why you ran up in this thread trying to ride my nuts. Your prince is not in THIS castle, so keep going.
-Starhammer-
History is full of stories about trifflinâ women literally endangering the entire world. Read or watch War & Peace.
:tup:
The existence of modern day feminism is evidence of how devoid of intelligence most humans are today.
man. Et, tu, Mrs Jackson? :bluu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePs5X7cbk8U
Even very rich women are like that. beware gents. Always.
-Starhammer-
99% of the men who opt out do so without knowing anything about internet discussions, labels and all the fluff. They simply go through one terrible divorce and decide to never get re-married, or see friends and family members getting screwed over and decide marriage isnât worth it to begin with. Because itâs a logical solution to illogical conditions, many men reach these conclusions naturally.
Would you sign a business contract in which your partners are allowed to avoid fulfilling their part and youâll be the one punished for it?
So, wait, hang on. Is it just abstinence from marriage, or is it opting out of long-term interaction with women altogether? I mean, Iâm a woman, and yâall are interacting with me and being pretty cordial about my inquiries.
Somehow missed this one when it came out. ROTFLMFAO!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/stormhammer/Charlton%20Heston%20Laugh_zpseqhtrpn1.gifBefore: âMen who buy prostitutes are losers who I wouldnât want anything to do with anyway.â
After: âThose fake floosies are ruining our racket!!â
-Starhammer-
it differs depending on who you ask. Me? I donât go for relationships, but Iâm not against taking a woman out on a date or hanging out as long as everythingâs cool. Some avoid not only women, but even society itself and have chosen minimum contact with said society. On the other end, there are married men who also claim MGTOW. Not sure how, but there it is. In short, The whole avoidance of marriage thing is but one aspect of what MGTOW is, but itâs the one that seems to bring the most controversy.
Havenât posted much from Lion Of MGTOW, but hereâs a recent one with him telling just how big things have goten. Now even YouTube is trying to get in on the act, not just against MGTOW, but everyone that says things they donât likeâŚand doesnât have the money to pay them off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87WraPJ6kuc
-Starhammer-
The whole demonatization fiasco has hit everyone with no exception. The damage was done by badly designed algorithms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lOlFFv_GGo