more and more women are learning about MGTOW. Some do not like it, but some agree with it. Here is one such woman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12QInvCZowU
-Starhammer-
Why are the ones who agree with it most of the time sexy as fuck?
Funny, ainât it?
:tup:
Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrWq5AEOpiY
I like this thread, even if Iâm more of an MRA I respect MGTOW & Iâm glad to learn about the risks I as a man face in modern society.
âŚand that is at least part of the reason why I started this thread in the first place.
-Starhammer-
This one has been done before, but not by the Popp.
The article in question: (Also listed in the vid description)
Now itâs time to go get a beer, hit the switch, and let the pain begin!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9qGY_BIHrg
-Starhammer-
Hooooooo boy. This shit right hereâŚ
OMG. Jackassery beyond reckoning.
-Starhammer-
This might be april 1st, but stories like this are no joke. Thanks for the find Tataki.
-Starhammer-
Hereâs another one from Popp. Listen up before itâs too late.
-Starhammer-
Of courae not all women are kike that. Lofl
I have a buddy that is going through a terrible divorce right now. His wife is a fucking whore and I hope she dies in the most awful way possible. His whole life is spiraling downward, Iâve done all I can to help him, but no one comes out of the something like that the same.
well, Itâs official. Now men, both old and now the young, are going galt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mFdAEPAqrc
Not sure if even this will be enough for society to get the message, but the message is there.
-Starhammer-
I know several people who are either where your friend is now or are clueless about their chick having sex with other dudes. Fortunately I donât know them well enough to âhelpâ them and in some cases where you know the girl is really insane I believe that itâs best to think of it as a natural disaster like a hurricane and to stay as far away from its path as possible.
Ahhh my favorite little topic there⌠when they try so hard to shoot the argument down by claiming the Mr. Nice Guy isnât really nice. Where does one even begin cutting into this shit?
Really? So⌠then all these instances of career criminals, abusive guys, drug dealers, and guys that are by most accounts what people identify as âMr. AssholeââŚALL of that is just a figment of my imagination, I supposeâŚyeah I shouldnât believe my lying eyes thereâŚmaybe itâs a carefully crafted illusion, produced by the same folks that faked the moon landing. Sure. :tup:
All those times when women have actually said âheâs just tooâŚNICEâŚââŚI suppose that never happens either, right? Sure, Ok. Or perhaps I could say thatâs just proof that most of what you bitches say can never be taken at face value anyway, because we know the truth is really that Nice = Boring. Orâ the guy in question is just an ugly muthafucker, and sheâs lying to not completely destroy his feelings.
These are the people that just disagree with the NAME of the situation⌠you calling it something else doesnât mean it âdoesnât existâ.
See this one is short and sweet⌠and actually reasonable; Iâm pleasantly surprised.
*Sometimes I honestly just get annoyed with people always shifting blame AWAY from women regarding literally anything⌠that shit really âgrinds my gearsâ, man⌠like with the whole interaction between men and women, the topic of âfriend zoneâ, topics regarding criminal behaviorâ some morons are always taking that stance that basically says âNah itâs not the womanâs faultâŚitâs YOUR FAULT.ââŚalways some manâs fault for something. I genuinely despise people like that⌠the ones that think women are quite naturally perfect and would never be the âvillainâ of any given situationâŚnah, those idiots can kindly go take a long walk off the top of the nearest skyscraper. Sometimes women just make shitty choices. Thatâs undeniable fact. They can be every bit as worthless and pathetic as any man engaging in the same behaviors. I get tired of them being given an automatic free pass on stupid, questionable or even criminal behavior. You bitches are NOT some magical superior species that is above criticism. Youâre goddamn right to be uncomfortable about being âput on a pedestalâ⌠because the vast majority of you cunts are definitely not worthy of it.
and goddamn right I certainly donât sound like such a nice guy right now. Only a foolish person would continue going through life with that handicap. Itâs generally better in todayâs world to be a Lex Luthor instead of a Clark Kent.
Iâm sorry to hear that man. I donât have any personal advice to give, but I know someone who does.
You want more advice? send him to www.mgtow.com. and check the marriage and divorce section. one thing Iâve learned is that once the divorce dick shows up, all you can do now is lessen the pain as much as possible. I hope this can help.
Removes the shackles of give a fuck btw, if your lighters are busted, now would be a good time to push your cigs to the screen, because Starhammer intends to burn some bitches.
read within.
Spoiler
EDIT: some people may be confused what my answers below pertain to. Here you go.
1: Starting it off with that one eh? Iâm sure these,âNice Guysâ will stop
treating women like vending machines when women stop treating them like ATMs. As
long as it works, donât expect it to change.
2: Friendship isnât a down payment for sex. However, I donât think these guys are
out here dating their friends, so this is irrelevant.
3: âButâŚWhy doesnât it work? Iâm a guy willing to make dream scenes
from movies into reality, but the girls donât dig me? WHY!?!?!?â
âŚIt is simple. Youâre not a star and this isnât a movie. Chances
are, youâre not rich, nor are you famous. That guy on the silver screen? Heâs
all three. It isnât what he does, itâs what he is that they see.
4: Truly nice guys probably wonât announce it, especially not after seeing what
happens to those who do anyways. Besides, women can sniff out,âNice guysâ with an
unnerving accuarcy that makes our most advanced targeting systems seem primitive.
Donât worry nice guy. She WILL find youâŚwhen it is time.
5: Says who? I donât remember seeing any particular life handbooks that
says,âNice is a requirement of a human beingâ. Some are, some are not. No, you
donât get special credit for being nice. For a lot of people, being nice gets
them worse treatment than if they had been hateful. That is why a lot of people
arenât nice.
6: go look at answer four. in particular: âDonât worry nice guy. She WILL find
youâŚwhen it is time.â To expand upon that answer: While women
have better options than you, it is not going to be your time. Simple as that.
When the well of available men is starting to run dry, THEN your being a "Nice"
guy will be attractive to those women.
7: Oh boyâŚNot this one againâŚ
Look. If youâre acting in a way that is not like youâŚTHEN
ITâS AN ACT!! A LIE!!! YOUâVE COMMITTED PERJURY ON THE DANCE FLOOR BITCH!!! This goes for ANYTHING!!! If you act like a thug, a rich guy, a sweetheart, etc
but that isnât truly how you are, THEN IT DOESNâT MAKE YOU THAT PERSON!!
However, if they are NOT acting, and they are not doing it to get laid, and are
being a sincere personâŚHow will you know? I guess you have to take
a leap of faith Just like everyone else.
8: Already went over this one. Please refer to either number four or number six.
9: HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Omg. We men also
donât want to risk pregnacy, herpes, or YOUR clingy drama for a shit lay. As a
lot of men are finding out, we can add on other things like false rape
accusations, getting fired from a job (over some drama), being demonized in public just because,âShe saidâ, etc.
I know this is hard to believe, but sometimes, guys just donât want to have sex.
Stop shaking your heads. This isnât some horror movie, this is for real. You
know, a nice night out with someone we me online, in a store, or whatever the case
may be might be all that we wanted. Who knows if itâll lead to more down the
road, but if this is what you think of men, I can see why nice doesnât work. You
hear nice and automatically assume heâs everything but when you donât even know the guy.
10: Congratulations. We have FINALLY come to one that I can agree with. Putting
down on yourself isnât good, and neither man nor woman should do it. Pity points
arenât worth it. Ever. Nobody is perfect, but everybody can be better.
Ironically, I donât see what this one has to do with being a nice guy.
11: Hereâs another one that I must sadly agree with. despite any number of things
saying women want to be treated like a princess, they often reject the guys who
do. You ever see princesses? Look at those movies closely. Those are some unhappy, bored bitches. No wonder they keep
getting kidnapped. They donât want to have their lives endangered. They just want
so badly to have something exciting happen in their lives that even a forced
vacation to swamp monster city is worth the risk.
12: While the term might be âfriend zoneâ, there is nothing friendly about it.
Guys. You are not not going to get laid in the friend zone. you are not going to
even get friendship in the friend zone. you are a spare utility at this point.
You will get called upon if she needs a ride, wants to borrow money, needs a
shoulder to cry on, or whatever else doesnât she wants. Your feelings towards her mean NOTHING. If you are in the friend zone, cut off ties with her. She is
lost to you as you are to her. You must move on.
Btw ladies. This can happen to you too.
13: LMFAO!! Really? Being nice is immature? And just how is a man supposed
to,âprove itâ? I mean, just SAYING it makes them immature after all. Is this
another one of those,âBe a manâ shaming tactics? really. Iâm stuck here.
14: Please remember this post when men do not buy you drinks, turn down offers to
go to lunch with you, or donât offer to help you with whatever you may need help
with. Nobody is entitled to anything.
15: I most certainly do not condone for any reason people who become stalkers.
There are few things a human being dislikes more than the feeling that they are
not safe, and stalkers are the embodiment of this.
LOL Again at online stalkers. Everybody is a brave bastard behind a keyboard, but
that is also your strength as well as theirs. Put them fools on ignore and be
done with them.
Look. we all like and want attention once in a while. Sometimes, we get that
attention from people whom we would rather not give it, but thatâs life. If I had
to live my life being afraid of every interaction with another peson, I donât
think Iâd want to live. Donât worry about the guys giving you attention. The
real fear wonât set in until nobody looks your way.
16: After reading that, I only see this: Somebody I would be desperate to get
away from. The things you listed arenât desperation, but Some of them can be pushed
too far, like spending too much time around a person. IMO, this post screams of
paranoia.
If you want to see an embarrasing scene, wait until some guyâs ex calls him during
a date with his current gf. Sparks arenât the only things that fly.
17: Oh God Not again. Already been over this one, see answer 14. Nobody is
entitled to anything from anyone. we Get it. Moving onâŚ
18: so basically, being nice means nothing as compared to being attractive?
Thanks for clearing that up, not that it needed to be.
btw, Girls donât lean on the friend zone when they donât want to tell a guy heâs
unattractive. They lean on it when they want keep using said guy for resources
(See answer 12) by making him think that if he just does this one more thing that
heâll have a chance.
Yes, unreciprocated love does suck. Please do not talk about it throughout the
entire date by moping and crying about your ex husband, boyfriend, or whoever else
broke your heart because that new guy is going to become another ex in a flash.
If you keep living in the past, youâll never move forward.
19: already went over the self pity thing. (Answer 10) As far as your,âNowhere is
it written in the stars that anyone has to like youâ argument, it isnât written
that you are doomed to know only lonliness and the pain of rejection until your dying day. Hope. Itâs what keeps us running when weâve litteraly failed every other time, but wonât give up.
20: LMAO @ trying to throw the blame!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Again, looks like
Answer 14 is going to be the same answer here, plus this. If Iâm really your
friend, I doubt that Iâll ever want to have sex with you. If youâre really my friend, you wonât
need sex to keep me around.
21: If you wanna date jerks, that is indeed your perogative. However, there is
this song you might want to keep in your playlist called,âWhere have all the
men gone?â Sooner or later, youâll learn the words to it if you keep dating
jerks.
22: Believe me, there are a LOT of men who want the white knight thing to die and
go away, and most of them are men. You may also believe me that it will not be
men complaining about it when it does.
As far as Iâm concerned, women are grown girls and are capable of decideing when
they want to fuck or not. The problem comes from taking responsibility for these
actions when they go bad. you have a regretful night out? Own up to it. you
chose the guy, now live with it.
Seriously though. White knights need to GTFO.
23: Same goes for,âAll men are pigsâ because some of them screwed you over. Just
sayin.
Guys. If some girl rejects you, just brush it off and keep moving. She might be
the girl of your dreams, but Iâve never seen a woman change her mind about not
wanting to date aa guy after being called bitch,slut,whore,and/or skank in public.
Sheâs not the one. There are others. Decide if you wish to continue or not, but
standing there yelling at a stranger isnât going to help anyone.
24: FOR THE SAKE OFâŚWE GET IT!! YOU DONâT OWE US!!! DAMN!!! CHANGE
THE CHANNEL ALREADY!! Also, Re read answer 14.
For the record, We KNOW whatâs going to happen if these men get hookers. Theyâre
going to be called every shameful name in the book. Theyâre wrong for wanting to
ask to spend time with you, but theyâre also wrong for spending that time
elsewhere. Ainât no winning with the women it seems.
25: canât argue with this. Not putting up with someone elseâs shit doesnât make
you an asshole. Those guys are probably looking at this list and laughing
themselves into a knot.
26: No NO Dear Lord no. it just keeps coming
back!..(See answer 14. Again. )
Some of you women donât handle rejection well either. Iâve seen many a guy whining in his beer at many a bar, and Iâve seen guys get their cars beat up
with pick axes, nearly run over by angry exs, some didnât quite dodge in time, and
other such fates. People sometimes lose their minds over the word âNoâ. Such is life.
27: (points back to answer 14.) To make this answer shorter, Take your whole
post, switch the genders, then leave.
28: codependency is what happens when you actually NEED each other to live.
Be nice from
a distance? Thatâs the best advice Iâve heard yet!! Iâll be so distant youâll never find me!!
29: This might be the dumbest one yet. How does that work? Do I need to say it
in front of a mirror or do I need to raise my fist over my head first orâŚ
Just damn. In case you donât know, shaming tactics are becoming less and less
effective these days. Trying to demonize someone by making them into something
they arenât isnât going to work any better than trying to turn into a douchebag by
saying âIâm a nice guy!â in front of a mirror. I actually went and checked. It
didnât work.
30: Um, what? Whoever said that this would make anyone nice? Seriously. Iâve
never even heard of this. NEXT!!!
31: This one holds true for a lot of things including sex and relationships.
unless youâre an insanely rich guy or drop dead gorgeous woman, nobody is going to
put up with that shit for long.
32: There is a difference. The word âtoâ was changed out with the word âatâ. As
for what you described, Thatâs just simple human error. Sometimes, you just donât
get the hint. The whole blowing up thing was covered earlier, but no. Flying off
the handle about it isnât the way to go. It has happened to me enough times. I
thought one thing, I was wrong, once I realized what was up, I left. Nobody got
hurt, and life continued on. not a big deal.
33: Oh man. This again. Sure. It CANâT possibly be anything else right? Heâs
gotta be a bad guy no matter what he says or does. Heâs gotta be lying because as long as heâs not REALLY a nice guy, Itâs not MY fault if I get rid of him!! Might as well call him a creep, or rapey, or
whatever other words will help convince you that youâre right while youâre at it.
34: sure. Someone being boring and/or whiny is a turn off. THAT is something
that probably will never come into style. Of course, it begs the question
of,âWhat is your idea of excitingâ to be asked. That answer changes depending on
who you ask. some people actually prefer a little peace and quiet in their lives,
so âboringâ may work out for them. Whiny? No. I donât think thatâll ever get
dates.
35: You wonât? Well congratulations lady!!! youâre in the half that DIDNâT get a
divorce!! In other words, there are a LOT of women who would, and it probably
isnât about being âNiceâ either.
Since youâre married, howâs about you go to your husband and hang out with him.
You donât need any guys, nice or otherwise. Right?
36: Of course not. Thatâs why they have different meanings. A person can be nice
without being good, also, they can be good without being nice. Some may even be
both, or neither. For the record, THIS is the new dumbest thing Iâve seen in
here. Number 29âs title got taken.
And last on this laundry listâŚ
37: âenoughâ? And what exactly are YOU bringing to the table? Hmmm? A guy has
to be this list of things before he can even be deemed worthy to speak in front of
you, and for what? WHAT DO YOU HAVE? For what reason am I to undertake such an
endeavour? WHY ON EARTH SHOULD I EVEN WANT TO BE WITH YOU FOR EVEN A MOMENT?
Nothing? Silence?
And this, gentlemen, is why âNiceâ donât work. This is why NOTHING that youâre
doing is working. Youâre looking for something that simply, these women donât
have anymore. Donât believe me? ask yourself,âHow many times have ANY of these
posts mentioned the word love?â Iâll save you a trip. Itâs only twice and it
isnât in reference to searching for or finding it. NowâŚhow many times does
the word Sex pop up? might as well throw in fuck because they said those two a
lot more than they did love.
Men. Itâs a game. Itâs been a game. A lot of you knew it, A lot of you have awakened to this, and some have yet to discover it. Save for a scant few entries, screw this list. As for women who are tired of dealing with âniceâ men, donât worry. Once youâre standing behind the wall, these men wonât be bothering you. Itâll be as if they donât even see you. :tup:
-Starhammer-
Well my buddy at least is lucky enough to not have any kids so he doesnât have to deal with the family court system, our state does not have alimony and he owned his house before they got married. However she keeps telling him she misses him even though she was the one who left and filed for divorce. :wtf:
No kids, no alimony in the state and he already owns the house? Either her side nigga bailed or she realized that she ainât getting shit out of this divorce and wants to suck up.
Tell him to divorce her ass and get as far away from her as his situation allows. After he divorces her, tell him to go grab up about five lottery ticket and some scratch offs before Friday because heâs already dodged a bullet that has claimed many. I donât care how âsorryâ she is. Fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me.
She tried to monkey branch, but got a broken limb. Sheâs about to fall and she knows it. Not his problem, and not his responsibility. crash and burn and I hope she does NOT have better luck next time.
To go further down that road:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTRVD--wMUQ
-Starhammer-
bumped into this in an E mail. I think theyâre finally beginning to see the writing on the wall.
the âI donât want to click their link!â version in the spoilers.
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I admire men.
Specifically, I admire men who are controlled, confident and who fulfill their biological destiny as protectors and providers. Men are essential for training boys to tame the testosterone and channel their natural strengths and aggressiveness in appropriate ways. Trained men are, in the words of columnist Dennis Prager, the glory of civilization. (It goes without saying that untrained men are its scourge, but thatâs another column.)
Men â trained, manly men â are necessary for a balanced society. They take on the tough ugly hard jobs women canât or wonât do. They mine our coal and fight our fires and protect our shores and fix our engines and rescue our butts when weâre in danger. They truck our goods and clean our pipes and wire our homes. They plow fields and grow food. They butcher livestock so we can buy meat in tidy sanitized packages in the grocery store and pretend it never came from a cow.
Iâm not saying women canât be found in those fields; but letâs be honest: The vast majority of workers in hard, dangerous, dirty and heavy fields are men. They deserve our praise and gratitude.
Which is why I get so ticked off when feminists belittle men. These kinds of women donât admire manly men who protect and provide. Feminists donât want warriors; they want servants who will kowtow to their emotions and feeeeeeelings. They prefer emasculated androgynous guys who wouldnât know one end of a rifle from the other. Guys who watch chick flicks with them. Guys who know what temperature to wash the dainties. Guys who are preoccupied with âsocial justiceâ and bringing their carbon footprint down to zero.
Now of course Iâm taking things to extremes, but itâs to make a point. For the last 50 years â essentially my lifetime â there has been a war on manliness. Women were told they didnât need a man, even to raise children. The family unit was attacked, mocked and dismantled so that children lost their mooring and grew up disoriented and adrift, unsure of their biological roles.
The result is weâve lost a great number of our nationâs providers and protectors. Weâve raised generations of boys who were encouraged to embrace their feminine side, to be sensitive and emotional, and to look with horror at anything aggressive. Indeed aggressiveness, no matter how properly channeled, is still looked at with revulsion by feminists. Boys are punished for being boys and indulging in boyish activities. Instead, boys are trained to be girlish.
WND Booksâ latest release on feminism confronts the harridans head on â the Politichicks team up in âWhat Women Really Wantâ
Consequently, America has become a wimpy society dominated by women. Women (yâknow, those âstrong confident womenâ) donât want protection from men â thatâs too old-fashioned and barbaric. Warriors in uniform are turned away lest those uniforms âoffendâ someone. Our society thinks weâve âprogressedâ beyond the need to protect ourselves. It claims weâll be âsaferâ if we donât have access to those evil awful nasty guns ⌠which, as everyone knows, are merely phallic representations of the male ego. Yuck.
Feminism and its corollary, political correctness, have slain our protectors â not literally (unless you count abortion) but metaphorically. Feminism has had such a strong influence on everything from how boys are raised to what national policy is instigated that we have achieved a state of spectacular wimpiness. Political correctness has now such a strong grip on our country that we can no longer call an enemy an enemy because thatâs âintolerant.â
But now weâre facing a threat ⌠and we have no warriors to protect us.
Ever hear the term âthe barbarians are at the gateâ? It refers to the Mongol âhordeâ that ravaged Asia and eastern Europe during the Middle Ages. The Mongols were tough uncivilized warriors who brutally cut down anyone who stood in their way. The âcivilizedâ countries of Europe looked at the approaching horde with panic because they knew their courtly, politically correct knights had no way to repulse these violent bands of men who had a simple, single goal: to conquer. In short, when the barbarians were at the gate, you had something to worry about.
Itâs not hard to draw parallels to America today. Our warriors are gone. Our men are too courtly and politically correct to repulse the barbarians at the gate who have a simple, single goal: to conquer.
Ironically, feminists have gotten what they wanted: a neutered society where men are deprived of the means and motivation to protect us. Theyâve made testosterone something to be ashamed of, which means weâre leaving ourselves wide open to men who arenât ashamed of their testosterone and who donât have self-control or civilizing influences. These are men who donât care about feeeeelings and emotions, about feminism or political correctness or carbon footprints or social justice. These uncontrolled, uncivilized men are inside and outside of our borders, poised and waiting. Without our warriors, our nation is laid bare to savages who will not hesitate to use their testosterone-induced strength to conquer and enslave.
Where will women be then?
Itâs important to remember: With the exception of superior firepower and military strength, a nation cannot be conquered when it is disciplined, controlled, responsible, self-reliant and has a strong warrior class. But when a nation is rotting from within, it is ripe for conquest. I ask you: Who is causing our nation to rot from within?
I leave you with the sobering quote from Marcus Tullius Cicero, attributed to a speech in the Roman Senate around 58 B.C.:
âA nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.â
We donât need feminism. We need our protectors back.
Read it and weep bitches. Fuck you I donât want you back.
-Starhammer-