@Starhammer Shit tests are just a woman’s way of weeding out the most dominate/respectful males. It’s must like us desiring a physically attractive mate, even though pussy/head feels the same regardless of looks.
The thing is, women have been empowered to the point that they can shit test relentlessly, and even as a means of receiving validation, all because of the deplorable state that modern men have been relegated to. A woman will shit test anyone, but unfortunately, we live in a world where it’s too uncommon for men to challenge the test right back as women are motivated by evolution to perceive as a “pass.” It’s why drug dealers and shit stains who have no accountability are able to surround themselves with the choice (looking anyway) women. They have no compulsion to try to “pass” a shit test. They are not going to change for anybody, so long as their needs and desires are being satisfied.
The modern world has been flipped over and turned inside out so men have no self-esteem or value in themselves so they will jump through hoops to maintain what they perceive themselves to possess. Women are given passes at almost every stage and in every arena in life. Is it any wonder they shittest to no end?
Bottom line is, if you have a modern woman (I.E. any besides your mom and/or a lesbian/masculine friend), then you’ll get shit tests and the best ones are those not even taken.
Flip that and think about how it often turns out for females who decide to go this route early in life… Have a kid at 16, then one at 18 then one at 20. You’re going to be 38 by the time that last child reaches maturity. And that will only be a respite if none of them turn out like her and follow the same path to grandma-hood!
Yeah, that gambit does not often pay off for women.
Honest question though: You already have a genetic legacy out there so why do this all over again at 35? You already picked the wrong person twice. What makes you think you won’t repeat the same mistake the 3rd time? You can still get screwed by cohabitation laws for example.
I have no plans of doing anything but finding them fucking them and forgetting them for a long time. At least until like you said there’s legal reform.
I take it as it comes these days and have a very short fuse when it comes to women. Bore me,stress me out, piss me off, sleep around, ask me for shit and it’s over with. I couldn’t even tell you how many times I’ve kicked a girl out of my house or just up and left hers on a whim.
I mean honestly making those mistakes has made it impossible for it to happen a third time really I always knew how to play it and often times did. I let society fuck me up and create doubts, I almost felt evil for not letting women get away with their bullshit.
No more.
Pump and dump, consensual sex while drunk, regret after consensual sex, wanting to hide the act from parents/boyfriend/husband etc. etc. all can and have in the past lead to false accusations of rape.
What are you going to do to prevent such a result?
You act as if the only 2 choices in life are “drive a car without seat belts” and “never drive a car”. Where’s the “install seat belts in your car” option? If you won’t search for it, you’ll never find it.
He’s not wrong theres risks attached to all of it anything at all to do with women. Just like there are risks that come with driving, once you’ve been in an accident, your going to wear that seatbelt, In this case I wear it
I don’t spend money or time on women I let them spend it on me the funny thing about Feminism is it makes it EASY once you know how to play it. Women have Ego’s now ego is a mans disease, it gives us confidence to do great thing but mostly causes us to do poor things to feed the ego till we learn how to master it. These women want to flex, want to be providers, ok show me then, what can you provide me. They spend all day in this 3rd wave world having their ass kissed, their feelings considered yada yada, you come to me BECAUSE I don’t give a shit, I text you twice a month and you know why. It’s the one thing that’s real in this fake existence they’ve built for you where your special because you bleed half a week every month.
There is a problem with committed relationships. You just can’t properly VET everyone. Think about it, how many have run game on a broad just to get the panties? People can and will fake the funk.
If you can’t properly vet people what is the beat solution? If you get married the court systems favor the woman. You can lawyer up but why should it come to that? The thing is no matter what happens the woman have the justice system backing them. Woman can fake love with a guy (happens all the time) and can take his ass to the cleaners. The woman won’t be looked at bad, or rather it won’t matter. Judge could find out she did it for the money but it won’t equate to being a bad parent and child support. There isn’t a punishment for a woman’s bad behavior other than a shallow dating pool. Not that it matters because pussy will always command a price on the male market. Someone is always gonna be willing to fuck. Men we need status and money to garner attention like that and a rogue bitch can fuck that up which makes a man less desired.
So with that being said we know that men are gonna get fucked for marriage. We know its not gonna benefit us. Or rather it benefits us if we stay married til death. A lifelong death contract isn’t a good deal. MGTOW has a purpose. It had a(N) LEGIT CONCERN(S). The data backs it. No one challenges the validity of feminism but the minute men come together all hell breaks loose. Which that in and of itself reflects the very existence and need for Men’s Rights and MGTOW.
As a black man I will say this, like any other movement, until equality and fair treatment is reached it will never go away. So if people oppose MGTOW find a solution that works for everybody. Saying you need to properly vet people isn’t a good answer. That doesn’t actually fix the issues and you can’t guarantee a change to come from asking more questions early on. MGTOW will go away when Men feel they get a better deal. 1 or 2 not in agreement doesn’t negate the validity.
Here is criteria you numbskulls should have to vet:
Career. She should have a career of her own. With it comes Money of her own. Goals of her own. Her own separate world
Intelligence. Whether she be a college graduate or maybe even just somebody with all the common sense you lack. You need a partner who can again clearly make their own choices
Motivation. Intelligence and having a career should be combined with motivation to do their best. Drive and motivation is how they should make their lives and therefore our lives better
Empathy. They should be empathetic and should have compassion for people
Selflessness. Goes without saying they do what they do for you not because of anything, but because they want us to work
Love. Whether it is sex. Putting her head in your chest. Asking how your day is. Being thankful. You should always have love
Trust. Trust in someone is the hardest thing to attain. Without trust there is no relationship. If you go into anything with a mindset that you already trust her you have failed. Real trust takes years, but you should never double guess your feelings. With trust comes honesty and you both being forthcoming
Honestly this goes for both sexes, sexual preferences, and relationships
If you go into a relationship with that:
“All women are inherently evil manipulative cunts out to get my money” attitude you will fail to achieve any sort of peace with women
I bet you would lament that every guy get a sex toy to avoid sex at all cost.
Like the best way to vet people in your lives is to talk and see how stupid they are.
@Dab00g go and find me one single solitary girl like that over the age of 23. Yeah, you might search the Earth to find a single young aspiring student slut girl who meets some of that, but definitely not all. Over that age, you will get the lower end of the spectrum (#'s 4 - 7) in widely varying degrees. But you will never, ever in a meeeeeliyon years find anything with even 5 of those 7 criteria solidly intact.
But guess what? I have multiple male friends with all of them.
Why can’t women do the same? Because they aren’t evolved that way. Guess what? WE are. I honestly don’t follow MGTOW as closely as I used to follow Red Pill, but I will say this, it’s very accurate in it’s wide-reaching deceptions of females, at least as far as I’ve seen in just about every case I have encountered, both fictional and otherwise.
And honestly, I think you are wrong when you say this goes for both sexes equally, since, how many men can you really say are capable of going without a career, being unintelligent, and never doing shit for themselves, pulling down other people all the while they do so? None. None without parents to take care of them, anyhow. Now a female, if she looks anything approaching decent, she will always be able to find someone who is willing to bend over backwards for her just to gain access to her vagaina.
You cannot deny this. You loathe it just as we do, and yet you mock us for telling it outright.
And you are a pansexual dude who went through a shitty divorce
If you specifically want to be with men or new-halfs be with them
Also it is not just women being brought up with self-entitlement issues. Everybody has them. Too many dudes got participation trophies and expect life to be handed to them.
When have I ever said I wanted to be with a man, trans or otherwise?
Oh, never, that’s when.
Yeah, I’ve been through a divorce. As has 40 - 50% of married men in this country.
Yes, MANY people have self-entitlement issues. But I also did not confine women’s current issues to that alone. I said that this is evolutionary in scope, which it is. Get it straight. I am not faulting women. I am faulting society for enabling them.
And I agree with you, being overly-entitled is highly destructive to males. But again, society. You have to learn to love and empower yourself in this society. There is so much in play that tries to lay a path for you, or to define what behaviors you’re supposed to absolutely fall into.
It’s not fair for any of us. But I’m sure we can all agree that our society has skewed things to the point that men have no chance unless they conform to a stringent ideal or else settle for less than what they could have given this horrible social environment that we currently exist in.
We have no one to blame but ourselves. But at least those of us who have opted out, or at least taken a different course, are aware of the problems instead of ignoring them, or hopefully barrelling down side-avenues in hopes of stumbling upon the unicorns you insist must exist out there somewhere.
No thanks! I’ll either wait for the game to change, or else twist the rules and play it my way, just like a damn fighting game.
If you can’t find a person that is to your standards that is all on you.
For me i found somebody. A lot of guys in here have found somebody.
When it comes to divorce proceedings i say nobody should get anything. It should just be a fifty fifty deal. But, whether it is mooching or having a sugar momma/daddy i really feel people like kevin federline or linda hogan really should not have got those huge alimony payments just divide the assets fairly.
The problem then comes with custody.
Marriage is only beneficial socially to raise your children. That is it. Marriage in a business sense benefits you when it comes to insurance coverage and tax breaks. I still think it is bullshit that i have to marry my girlfriend or have a domestic partnership for her to be covered under my insurance. Like that is bs in so many ways.
Otherwise the contract of marriage sucks. Having to draft a prenup to save your ass already puts you at odds, and good luck putting that prenup to work without godly lawyers.
If you have assets always get a prenup. If she loves you then it is a formality, hell have her draft her own prenup
John Cena is a man among men for having the most protective prenup of all time. His ex-wife did not get more than an agreed upon lump sum. He won’t go through that again. Fuck dude had his girl sign a 75 page legal document just to live in his house.
He did want to bother with the headache and legal battles.
Yet, he can still say he is in love with a woman. All while protecting his money.
Oh joy @dab00g is pretending like he knows things again This shit is so beta bro like Ugh…
I mean I guess beta shit is necessary but its reached critical mass and has to die so that gender relations can live. Between Masculine women and feminine males the meek truly have inherited the earth.
Nothing i said was beta. You have to vet people in life.
But as for just random bonings. Wear protection. And really if you deal with crazy bitches that is on you.
Pump and dump. Smash and dash. If you ever get inside a woman who you think might fit your lifestyle. Use shit tests and vetting questions to see if she is worth it.
Or be a beta controlling asshole like jake lamotta.
And that will only be a respite if none of them turn out like her and follow the same path to grandma-hood! 