^ Yeah the family court doesn’t give a shit about prenumps or legal documents. Marriage is fine if you can stay out of the family court. But if not holy shit get ready to get fucked.
That last sentence ia auch bullshit givem the state of family court
Family court can literally write it’s own laws. It can do pretty much anything it wants.
Sounds like one shitty game IMO. No way will I pay to play it.
-Starhammer-
I didn’t skip this question, but I’m afraid I have no answers. I don’t even know if there is a way to validate that claim. I mean, if a guy doesn’t know that girl A has been fucking a guy a day since her 18th bday and she’s 36 now, does that make him more or less likely to divorce? Does it make HER more or less likely to divorce? If the roles were reversed, would that effect the answer? of the people I’ve asked, they’ve all thrown up their hands and said that they really can’t answer it either. Well, If nothing else, maybe this will help. Either way, it’s someone else looking into the whole divorce rate thing. His findings are pretty much good news, bad news. It isn’t as bad as we think, but nowhere near time to take a knee if you’re a guy.
-Starhammer-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vka_XaN6rQ0&
damn. Didn’t think it was gonna be like this. The future will be…TECHNOLOGIC.
-Starhammer-
A little TFM to help start your weekend off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYJJh6zbHGM
Now, this is important from a MGTOW perspective for at least these reasons that I’m going to state:
1: Suicide. One of the biggest killers of men is…Men. Suicide amongst men has historically been higher than it is for women, and a good number of those have been men who suffered at the hands of the family court system. Telling men they cannot be in their child’s life isn’t taken lightly, and in some cases, it is the last straw. This wouldn’t be such a problem if the man is the only parent.
2: Child support. When the check goes out, who knows where it is spent? Well, NOW he will.
3: Preggy trap status: DISABLED :wow: That’s right ladies. Men don’t get pregnant, but now they can(or will in the not-so-far-off future) have children. This is some marvel comics, Blade the vampire,“He has all of our strengths, but none of our weaknesses.” level shit. No more using a fake pregnacy to get a ring on your finger. “Baby? Afraid not ma’am. I don’t do hoes.”
4: CHOICE!! Arguably the reason for this whole thing is that one word. Men have historically had no choice beyond either do or do not when it comes to children. Either you shoot some sperm in this chick and hope for the best, or no. Maybe you didn’t want to get her preg, but now that she is, you can’t say shit. Well, now you can bring forth the mini-me on better terms. “My body, my choice” indeed.
5: Security. How many times do you hear on news, internet, or whatever other media that some guy is on the hook to pay for a kid that isn’t his?
(Notice, nothing about actually getting to raise or be a part of the child’s life.) Well Kiss that shit goodbye!! God knows that there will be a fat stack of paperwork to sign before getting to put a baby in the NEW oven, so you can be pretty damn sure that you’ll know who the parents are. On the down side, this could single-handedly wipe out Maury Povich show’s infamous line,“You are NOT the father!”
I know there are some more (family court being one of the businesses that will get rekt. 
), but these are the ones that came to mind first. Tomorrow is a new day. A day that shows interesting things ahead.
-Starhammer-
I’ve always chalked that up to psychology. A lot of the people I know with the highest hit lists aren’t comfortable with intimacy and/or have mommy/daddy issues. So I think it’s not so much that having a lot of sex means you’re not likely to be able to bond, it’s that people who have problems bonding tend to have more partners BECAUSE they keep trying to find whatever it is that they’re missing. But you should do whatever makes you happy. My number is in the mid-20s and I’m perfectly capable of bonding with people emotionally and sexually and not wanting to get out.
Tl;dr: EVeryone should go to the shrink. EVERYONE.
Don’t think you can get got?
…Neither did he. Please. Be careful out there.
-Starhammer-
How long do you think it’ll be until the divorce?
-Starhammer-
But doesn’t the argument still stand because even you know people who fit the statement, you simply just attached another angle to it to explain the problem and avoid using partner count. However the counterpoint didn’t really invalidate the use of partner count to make an educated guess and general assessment when determining if a person is even worth taking the chance to raise a kid with. That’s a 18 year commitment, the life of your own kid and future member of society, as well as half your financial resources. These generalization are essentially imo, tools that everybody should use to filter out trash and place them in the, you’re nothing but a fling and or waste of my time box while I look for somebody worth the effort bin.
You made the argument, I can still bond on a emotional and and sexual level, but lets ask a more fundamental question, what are the odds of you sticking with said individual when things get really hard? IIRC, you have made the argument, there’s plenty of fish out in the sea, how much influence would that phrase have when it came to decide whether or not you should cut your loses and bail? (that phrase is also a sympton of much bigger problem in American culture in which me always comes first) How patient would you be in teaching and molding that individual to change for the better and continue the commitment given, there’s plenty of other people in the sea, and it would be far easier to rationalize that this bitch is crazy. INB4 sometimes you really should just leave, becasue those generalizations would in generally have allowed you to filter out unfit people and safeguarded to a much higher degree.
To be fair, the need for some depth to generalizations are important, especially when you are deep in the relationship or starting a relationship and there needs to be work, and that’s when digging deeper matters more. I wouldn’t discount a person on that alone, but that person better fit a profile for the most part. Saying that there’s an ideal partner is nonsense, there’s only a general mold that needs to be shaped and detailed. Patience really is one of the most important virtues an individual can have when it comes to choosing somebody fit to be a mother and or father of their children in a modern context.
also, iirc, the data goes both ways
I didn’t think it could get this bad. I was wrong.
Non-Click version because you need to read:
Spoiler
Moral of the story: Don’t play the game. Losing will suck more than you can imagine.
-Starhammer-
I was telling people in the past but they didn’t want to listen. They got what they deserved. I recently went to a McDonald’s (I eat junk food like several times a month) and before they had 3 black kids and 1 asian kid working. Now there is that 1 asian kid working and they have these touch screen machines you can use to order.
Raising minimum wage will cause the poor to just lose their jobs. Sadly they are too dumb to be able to see and understand this.
It’s not that they are too dumb but that they don’t see an alternative, leavin their pay where it is leads to the same end game, being broke as fuck and unable to survive.
Instead coming up with better solutions and explaining and selling those solutions to the “dumb people” everyone just calls them stupid for going with what they understand and know. They need more money now, minimum wage raise gets them money now.
Besides it’s not like keeping minimum wage where it was is going to stop McDs from automation, they been trying to get automation off the ground for fucking years now. Maybe we’ll have to address this problem sooner instead of late now.
Automation is the bane of low wage workers and factory workers
We should fight against it
as old doors close, new ones will open. I’m guessing touch screen repair will become the new minimum wage. More people will finally start learning how to do shit like fixing plumbing, auto repair, etc.
I have to agree though. People had to know that the gravy train would come to a stop sooner or later, but they kept on ignoring. Now Trump’s in, and they’re all kinds of scared that the welfare hustle is about to get rekt. Good. A little fear can be a good motivation. Planned parenthood?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/stormhammer/Charlton%20Heston%20Laugh_zpseqhtrpn1.gif
I hope they have a plan B. I have a feeling there is going to be an increase of women trying to pull an Amber Heard and hook some wallets. I also know that the MGTOW website recently celebrated the 20,000th member. Enjoy the game while it lasts. The difficulty is about to increase.
-Starhammer-
Again you are the enemy of the male sex if you are anti-planned parenthood
No matter what side of this you’re on, I’m curious to hear your feedback on this question:
Why do people get so upset at the idea of MGTOW?
For context, I know that there are some members of MGTOW, like any group, that express a radical view. We can all agree that’s not the fundamental core of it. The fundamental core is men making a personal choice not to risk a relationship that could make them vulnerable to the state. They prefer to focus on their own resources rather than spend that on a woman or family. Inherently, this doesn’t seem to be to the detriment to society, as it means less broken families on the low side and on the other end of the spectrum, you’ll get men who feed the economy rather than feed off of it for the instant gratification of the dating.
There have always been people who didn’t prefer to marry or have children, male and female. Why does the declarative of MGTOW draw such ire?
I think you’re thinking about it too much.
For one, you’re being intellectually dishonest about the fact that there are plenty of folks out there who have fucked a lot of people and are still in healthy functional relationships. Usually fucking a lot of people is (at least for men) due to opportunity because women tend to ALWAYS have the opportunity, it’s just a matter of do they want to take it. So I suppose for a woman who has had a high partner count, you could make that argument, but there are a lot of underlying factors that play into it. It’s not the fact that they’ve slept with a lot of people, it’s whatever the underlying factor is that’s MADE them feel a need to sleep with a lot of people. Finding a woman who’s self aware is a good start to a healthy relationship, and self aware women are much easier to find than self aware men.
AS for the second part, younger women are obviously going to be less set in their ways so if you’re trying to “mold” them (which sounds kind of weird, let’s be honest) then that’s probably what you should look for. But with that said, finding someone you like, SOMEONE WHOSE PROBLEMS YOU CAN HANDLE (and this is a BIG part of being in a successful relationship, probably one of the most important parts), and whether you see them as an option long term will determine whether you stay and work it out or peace out. Sometimes relationships have issues that require a therapist. They’re work. If your bond with this person is worth it to you, and the issues are ones that can be solved, you’ll stay. If it’s not worth it, you won’t.
simplest answer of all: Haters wanna hate.
The more extended answer is below.
I mean, look at the common arguments against it:
They’re man-children who refuse to grow up.
They can’t get no pussy.
They’re scared of commitment.
They’re not,“Real men”.
They’re just losers,creepy, and/or whatever other shameful name they can think up.
Like you’ve said, most people who Identify as MGTOW simply don’t want a relationship due to the many risks involved. It’s really just that simple. Society as it is now is a crappy game, and this particular group has found a solution by simply not playing. Now, by logical standards, you’d think that people would be happy to leave these men whom they think of as less than desirable alone, but they can’t. They need these men to get married, have families, go to work, and pay for shit until they can no longer do so. Then they need them to get out of the way for the next batch of players to come forth, rinse, lather, and repeat. MGTOW says,“NOPE!” and go their own way and live their own lives. No agendas, no end goals, no protests, demonstrations, no list of demands, nothing. Of course, the trap won’t spring if the creatures won’t come, and that makes big daddy government unhappy. Therefore, MGTOW must be demonized, shammed, and bitched at until they return to the plantation like good little slaves. To that, MGTOW has one answer:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/stormhammer/Q3C7WUNX94_zpsldz4k4n8_1.gif
Let it burn. IDGAF.
-Starhammer-