MGTOW Chronicles:Men Going Their Own Way

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I make 1200 a month, I am not fit (hence posting in your health thread) and I have a big bushy beard. My picture is in the selfie thread here somewhere if you really care enough to see my picture. It’s only of my face but it’s enough for you to know I am not a fashion model of any sort.

i still get dates, I still see women, and I still have standards.

Look dude whether I make bank and look like Tom Cruise really doesn’t matter because it doesn’t really have anything to do with what we are talking about. Yea rich fit dudes can bag girls. That isn’t anything new. Shit you don’t even have to be fit. I work in a men’s big and tall store, big fat 400lbs mother fuckers come into the store all the time with thin hot wives. No one is debating that successful, hansom, rich, or all 3 men can pull tail. Hell if the south side of town is any indication you don’t need any of those 3 things to pull pussy because there are some broke ass, ugly ass, useless as fuck dudes on the south side with girls. A lot of why I think your whole position is silly. Anyone can pull tail no matter their situation, sluts are everywhere, for both sexes. Your whole position is predicated on fat, ugly, broke dudes can’t get girls, but the vast majority of America has proven you wrong since the vast majority of America is fat, ugly, and broke, but everyone still be fuckin. Shit my brother has a friend named Chad who looks exactly like a Chad. Dudes huge, has no money, lives with his parents because he’s too fat and lazy to get his own place, and he’s pretty uggo, and that dude gets laid constantly because he just doesn’t give a fuck about the quality of the lay. So yea your whole argument is just fucking silly to me. Plenty of women flock to shit tier dudes.

Really the conversation is about the quality of woman, something you don’t seem to be all the interested in commenting on. If you think quality women are unicorns then that’s you man and I don’t really have a problem with that, in fact I don’t even care. I think you’re wrong, and kinda silly for thinking so but you do you man. I’ve met plenty of women who don’t steal, don’t cheat, and don’t back stab, and I mean meaningful versions of that. Everyone does a little dirty shit from time to time, but if I can manage to go about my day to day life without being a whiny, demanding, conniving piece of shit, then there are others out there who can do the same, I’m not some rarity. There are decent people out of there of both sexes, you don’t have to settle for retraining some garbage woman who behaves like a toddler. You don’t, and fuck anyone, man or woman, who tries to convince you otherwise, especially when they use shaming tactics to try and belittle you to be more like them. Fuck those people, and fuck the men and women they are trying to get you to settle for.

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Those women giving you signs? Yea they are low tier women. They are exactly what I am talking about. Garbage tier. No man should be wasting their time on sluts like that.

I hate to break it to you bro but I wont be thinking of you come tomorrow. You’re not the important, and the things you are saying aren’t even close to revolutionary or new. In fact what you are saying has a lot to do with why MGTOW is a thing. Those guys have said “fuck it, I don’t wanna deal with that shit” so they don’t because they are tired of being treated like shit and having to tame some wild bitch like it’s still the caveman days,and have opted out, and would appreciate it if others would do the same so that perhaps women would have a good reason to check their behavior and the way they treat those around them, but horn dogs be horn dogs some dudes will do anything for the pussy. Personally I’m not opting out I’m just 10x more picky then I was in my early teens. Back when I was 20 any pussy would do. These days, my hand and some lube can get the same effect so I need more out of my girl then a wet hole to stick my dick in. I’m not even down with marriage so if she’s waiting on that to try and fuck me over, she gonna be waiting a long time.

Man plenty of men “dominate” their woman and they still get played for fools. Rewatch those caught cheating videos, plenty of those guys are alpha and they still got fuckin screwed over. I’m all for being my girls best lay ever, that would be great, but if the only reason she is hanging around is my fuck game, then she can kick rocks.

I break up with girls who don’t own their shit. I am an adult, I am not here to retrain a fucking child. That’s ridiculous. You are a god damn adult, you know what you are doing is horse shit. If I wanted to train something I;d get a dog, or a kid or something. You’re a fully formed adult, I shouldn’t need to tell you why throwing a tantrum, breaking stuff, stealing, back stabbing, and all that garbage is unacceptable. You wanna be like that you can get the fuck outta my home.

You don’t gotta retrain some bitch, you let some other dumb ass dude do that shit. I’m not talkin about normal stuff like “Hey don’t drink out of the milk carton” type shit, I’m talkin about real shit. You with a girl who is gonna dump you for the next big dick/bank account then you don’t need that bitch anyway. She just gonna look for the first opportunity to squeeze all your money out of you and then move on, and if she’s lucky continue squeezing money out you. You dump that broad and find someone else.

Retraining full grown adults…what a waste of time.

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You’re still chasing unicorns. You’re the man-child in all of this. You think you’re going to undo evolutionary instincts of a woman with a $1200 salary?No I don’t think I’m gonna change anything. Why do you keep making these assumptions? I’m not here to change anything, that’s what those MGTOW guys want. I’m just here looking for someone who isn’t scum. This is why you come off like a dumb ass, you keep acting like I’m MGTOW. I never said I was going to change anything. I said I was picky. I dump girls who don’t behave themselves and act like children. You’re the one talking about changing people. Retraining women an shit. I don’t waste my time trying to change anything. I spend time with you, if I don’t like you I dump you. I’m not here to change anyone. That’s your department apparently what with the retraining an shit. You’re dumb as hell with this shit dude. I never said I was trying to undo evolutionary anything. If that’s how women wanna be then fine, I’ll dump you and try again.

Also where the fuck do you live that Milk is apparently that fucking expensive because I have a full carton of milk in my fridge, it costs $2,50. Like where you live that Milk costs hundreds of dollars? The fuck kind of point is this even?

I’ve seen women squeeze money out of dudes who make way less then I do man. It’s not even something I’m worried about tho, I don’t plan to get married anyway. Yea I’m sure that makes me a cuck to or whatever asinine name you’ve got to throw at me now. Marriage is garbage, decks stacked in her favor, bad investment for men.

I dunno how many times I have to say I go on dates and see women, even with my 1,200 dollar pay, so I don’t really know why you keep on with this “sexless so ronry” shtick. It’s not an argument, or a position, if anything it tells me you don’t have shit and have to resort to things outside the scope of the conversation, but that’s dumb to, because even if I was a sexless virgin it wouldn’t refute any of what I am saying. No man has to put up with garbage tier women. They don’t. It may require you date a lot and meet a lot of women before you find the one you like, but it’s infinitely better then settling for some low tier broad who only cares about your bank account that you apparently need to fuckin retrain for some bizarre ass reason before she acts like a decent human being.

You claim a self righteous reason for what you do (which is ironic since you slung that at me as a slur earlier) but your arguments are vapid and hollow and when someone says they don’t agree you sling insults and slurs and baseless attacks and assumptions their way so you’re not really interested in a conversation. I don’t really think you have any altruistic intent with this shit, you just want to belittle people and stand over them like you are better then they are over something as stupid as getting laid, but we’ve already pointed out that getting laid isn’t much of an accomplishment so it’s a weird thing to hold over other people as some kind great feat.

I can’t describe my top tier woman because I haven’t met her. I would like to meet someone who is interested in forming a real bond with me. A real home, maybe (big maybe) children, who wants to contribute to our continued existence together. Smart and really nerdy as I am nerdy and would like someone to share my interests with. Would like her to have her own interests to share with me as well. Visually I like a slightly heavy girl, tho I like strong girls to. I don’t like the super model type. Twigs is all they are. Bout to break in half. My bros girl is skinny as fuck, I can’t stand it.

I’m really not that picky on looks so long as they aren’t a dumpster fire, these days I’m a lot more concerned with personality and behavior. I’ve dated a couple real hot chicks. They where vapid and vile to be completely honest. I’ve dated some ugly broads who where the same. I’ve also dated both from both categories that where perfectly fine and decent people.

But hey you seem incredibly pre-occupied with bank accounts so those vapid vile women are probably perfect for you.

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@core series

Are you trying to implying that once you have top tier women (in terms of looks) going after you, you have succeded in life?

Just to make sure, because thats ehat im getting from your post, especially given the context of the latter part of your post. Regarding projection of power due to charisma and confidence that comes with real succes in terms if money and accompishment of personal goals.

idk why people wouldnt infer thats what you mean, because thats what im getting. Id assume that would be common knowledge, especially given how we live in a society where its extremely easy to verify these things due to quantifiable trends. The lowest tier women in terms of rational ability, mental stability, technical ability, and moral character (usually the hottest) always clump and cling where succesful people congregate.

, i have to ask about marriage and where you stand given how you stated you are a married man; how would you reconcile the problem of having acess to the poorest but most desirable selection selection of wife material (top tier women in terms of looks) that comes with actual success? given how the law works, is it worth even bothering with this group if your sucess and work is on the line if things go south. Prenups are also a joke.

Why should a man gamble half, sometimes more than half of his successs, and more importantly, the welfare and wellbeing of his child, on some whore who isnt statistically trust worthy because shes more likely dominated by her emotions. Kids statistically do better when they come from complete families, so marrying or initiating a long term relationship with a woman from the upper echelon is statistically detremental to the well being of your kid.

And i know that a man with real succes has the free reign to choose whatever stock he wants because thats the reward that comes with real success (cough trump) but if statistically the females that can be considered wife material are on the lower bottom of the attractive scale, and not part of the “good problem to have”, given your rhetoric. Whats the point in having access to the stock that comes with succes if that stock is statistically garbage material for child rearing.

Time spent chasing and or fratnizing with these women in the upper echelon could have been used to find a statistically more suitable mate, or make more money.

It seems extremely ironic that the “success” that comes with actual success should ultimatley be disregarded and is wasted because of how law functions today. You just cant fuxk and spread your seed as a succesful man, that made sense when himanitt wqs imperialistic, but in a modern context it begs serious questions. Do i care about my lrgacy and work more than fucking useless sluts amd having kids eith them? Your sucess will be torn from you and squandered on a whore incapable of being a mother in the first place.

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I’m sorry, is reading too hard for you? Do I need to dumb it down for you or something?

I don’t care.

Yes it will.

Hmmm nope probably not. I don’t date walrus’s. Remember the key factor in this conversation is choice. I choose not to date/fuck walrus’s. I have standards remember. MGTOW choose not to play the game at all. Choice sir. It’s really simple when you don’t make every decision in your life with your dick.

What does this even mean? Yea I plan my life out. I would like to say that most people do but I’m not really sure. I certainly don’t just jump into things willy nilly. Planning not to do something is still planning and preparing. I can’t believe you’re trying to make forethought sound like something only stupid people do. I guess when we consider the quality of your posts and reading comprehension, and the stupidity that is most of your position…maybe you are stupid enough to just dive right into the first vaginal cave that gapes in front of you. Are you that stupid?

I’m certainly not. I made it to 31 with no kids or marriage while still fucking so I have a feeling I know what I’m doing.

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You can imagine how I roll all you want, it doesn’t change anything. Again the whole problem with this conversation is you keep using your imagination to try and steer the conversation elsewhere, you’re a lot like a woman in that way. Can’t keep to the topic at hand, gotta keep trying to make it about something else.

You can imagine whatever you want about me, it doesn’t make a difference. It’s a completely useless excersize on your part because it accomplishes nothing aside from perhaps fluffing your ego, which is pretty sad.

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Re read your own post

You said having acess to women that stab you is a good problem to have, and one that comes with actual success. No one deals with that level of shit unless a woman brings something to the table, amd thats virtrually pussy and good looks everytime. Thats only when its a “good” problem.

In that same paragraph you even said

Youll never fuck a model because you lack real sucess in several areas.

Lofl dude.

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You’re not going to address Pedo because he just pointed out what a fucking retard you are, and actually addressing points made to you isn’t something you’re willing to do. Again, you’re a woman like that. Why do you keep saying triggered man? How fucking pathetic are you to keep saying triggered? Grow the fuck up dude. You sound like a god damn tool every time you say triggered.

That’s cool for you about the work bro. Keep stroking your ego, it clearly has delated something terrible for you to need to brag to complete strangers on the internet about how much money you make and how many worthless women you get exposed to. God that is fucking sad. I 'm not focused on you saying hot women, or how much you earn, you are the one focused on that shit bro. You are the one who brought up hot women. You are the one who asked me how much money I make. You are the one focused on money and looks. I haven’t mentioned looks at all in this conversation without you asking me about it. That’s your focus. When I say low tier women I’m not talking about looks or how much money they or I make. I am talking about personality and behavior. You have completely and utterly failed to grasp this simple concept the entire conversation and instead ask me what kind of women I like, how much money I make, and what I look like. You’re the one focused on this shit, not me.

Keep your advice to yourself, I neither asked for it, nor want it. You market your message like fucking dog shit here. You must to better in real life because you come off as incredibly insecure and pathetic here. Based on how you handled yourself here I wouldn’t pay you a fucking cent. You’d probvably get me in trouble with one of those land whales you where goin on about.

Also you did say you need to make a lot of money and have hot women on your jock you lier, if you really believed that you didn’t you wouldn’t have said a fucking thing about my pay. You can’t even lie well man.

Guy comes in here to troll, then cries because someone disagreed with him and tried to “trigger” him when his whole goal was to be a troll.

Stop being a testosterone injecting gym fag (I mean while we’re still making assumptions about each other right?). Catch you later.

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That was my point dumb ass. You keep making assumptions so I did the same for you. Not even close to true huh? So stop doing it to me because as usual you’re way fucking off.

No one asked for your advice. The people who wanted your advice went to your thread for it. You came into this thread and start belittling and name calling people because yuour sad little ego needed a boost, and now want to fall back on “I was only giving advice” as if you weren’t being a complete piece of shit. Stop hiding behind your altruism dude, it’s fucking pathetic. Own that shit Angel Palm style or fuck off you pussy.

I have a real job, I don’t fuck land whales, and I’ll go to the gym when I’m fuckin ready. Have a nice day.

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First they laughed at Davido,

but then, they became Davido

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Can you niggas please take this shit to the PM’s and out the thread? Gee this is borderline female levels of back and forth. Just make tour argument either agree or stfu

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sheeeeit, on another note with regards to work and earnings— I am not sure how a certain person I know will ever really make it later on in life… it just hit me that the guy only gets 28 hours a week at best (assuming he does a full week; working all 7 days!), and it’s a really low-level 1099 gig (aka-- NO BENEFITS…no paid time off, NOTHING besides the cash or check which he will have to pay taxes on himself later). The sad thing is that the dude doesn’t even appear to have the ambition to TRY and make something else happen anytime soon…and yep, he’s still living in the house he grew up in. I seriously doubt he will ever improve his life in any significant way. Oh and surprisingly…even that guy actually has a girlfriend, somehow… but at the same time, it’s like he regards this as the proverbial “ball and chain”…but he would never actually dump this broad because deep down he knows the reality that he could most likely never, ever get anyone else. (*there’s a reason she’s with him…it’s a certain “issue” with her which makes this even 10x stranger than it is already; I’ll avoid getting into that explanation here…probably one of those secrets I should just carry with me to the grave, but yes it is incredibly bizarre.)

It’s all kind of fascinating to me, but in a bad way…like observing a creature from a strange new species that no one else in the world is aware of… a guy that is in his late 30s, with a terribly depressing job that is 1099, still living at mom’s house…yet no apparent desire to better himself at any point in the future…with a strange girlfriend that he kind of regrets but will never dump because he realizes that he has no real options beyond her. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if this guy has a level of depression going on that goes far deeper than what most people have ever seen.

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Speaking of…my buddy’s friend told us a story on how his ex ended up housing and taking care of her present boyfriend that is aspiring to be a rapper. Dude has no job and, at the time, not being proactive on his dream or whatever. He also lived with his mom prior to moving in. Thing is, she dumped the acquaintance of ours knowing this dood is broke as fuck.

I saw a video, around this time of the conversation, about the reasoning behind some women that dumps their men that has their shit together for bums. Basically its due to jealousy and not having the men be around them as much as possible. With a dude that has no job, its most likely they will be accounted for and their life will revolve the women’s.

I had to laugh when the dude told me his story as he is a guy that has a solid career and makes a killing to where he owns a giant garage full of sports cars and races most of them. He also bounced back with a hotter piece of ass so while he said he was a little shocked of what had happened, and he hopes for the best of his ex, he finds it comical and has moved on

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It always is about time with women

You have to make time for them, but for some bitches they need to be worshiped

Or feel like they are the better person in the relationship

Some people want to live that beauty and the beast life where they change a person into a better version of themselves, this goes for both sexes

Sometimes they leave that person because they changed too much