Metal Gear SOLID Thread: Snake? SNAAAAKE!

crucades · April 8, 2014, 10:41pm

The Patriots never fucked over anybody until Obama got elected/MGS4 btw

Joshkaz · April 8, 2014, 11:59pm

The Patriots fucked over everybody. Constantly. It’s why everyone wanted them gone.

AKI · April 9, 2014, 12:55am

I see what you did there

crucades · April 9, 2014, 2:37am

MG 1+2 was BB as the bad guy, MGS was liquid being the bad guy, MGS 2 was solidus betraying the patriots and being the bad guy with Ocelot sidestory of working for Patriots AI, MGS was the philosophers race, MGS 4 was nanobots going insane being the bad guy, PO 1+2/PW was Cipher comming into gear being the bad guy and GZ is everybody being the bad guy lol.

I feel sorry for Signit, that nigga starts up Patriots with BB/Zero para etc and dont get a worthy mention until Zero goes nuts and BB wants to blow up the world.

Ofcourse am making a clear distination between Patriots and Cipher when they are kinda the same thing, but its only when Zero is alone that Patriots are really the bad guy, which is to say, not that often. Patriots most powerful operative for instance is Solid Snake, he single handedly destroyed Outer Haven, killed BB and removed the last resistance to zeros AI plans. Oh shit.

MARTIAN · April 10, 2014, 12:57am

Did no one else notice this?

Sesshomaru_2 · April 10, 2014, 1:20am

just record it and slow motion replay it

MARTIAN · April 10, 2014, 1:29am

I’ll look for a video and tell you guys where it happens. Hold on.

Here. Look at 5:48 and 8:56. It’s super distinct from everything else that’s happening.

crotchpuncha · April 10, 2014, 1:34am

I think no one answered you cuz no one knows what it means. I know the flashes youre talking about but hell if i know what they are/represent.

shatterstar · April 10, 2014, 2:58am

when in doubt, nanomachines.

MARTIAN · April 10, 2014, 3:02am

Didn’t that theory someone posted earlier in the thread say something about “film degradation” being in Ground Zeroes, and therefore insinuates that GZ is just a propaganda movie using decoy octopus as Big Boss or some shit?

I don’t remember the specifics but that was the only thing I’ve seen that even remotely explains why it’s there.

Joshkaz · April 10, 2014, 3:26am

Got my Solidus in today.

[details=Spoiler]

http://i.imgur.com/FFIFsLi.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nRjHeaj.jpg

Box looks nice, too bad its a pain in the ass to put the shit back in.[/details]

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http://i.imgur.com/Y3GQpmG.jpg

[/details] Came with 3 different Hand styles, 2 P90’s, 2 Katanas, and the Tendrils. Tendrils aren’t very mobile, and they make Solidus hard to stand up. The P90’s look odd when he’s holding them so I just opted with the Katanas, might change to the default fist closed hands one day.

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/z9AqrNB.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/641N9Fo.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/VT4w4eK.jpg

Solidus from the side and front.

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/7cGivO8.jpg

Just a picture of what I have up.

pherai · April 10, 2014, 3:30am

he looks sicker than he does in mgs2 lol

Kashiyukasthighs · April 10, 2014, 4:37am

So I guess it’s similar to the virtual world theory for mgs2?

crucades · April 10, 2014, 1:37pm

I hope not, I dont think I can cope with that shit again.

I wonder if Solidus is gonna get his own game, could call it MGS: Oval Office and its basically him banging secretaries, shooting senators with missles and teaching Armstrong about the joy of nanomachines. They could have a prequel game like GZ where its basically a 2hr rendition of how he used to bang Raiden in the jungle.

MARTIAN · April 10, 2014, 4:36pm

I mean think about it. When you get shot in GZ, what happens? You see marks on the screen that look like burn holes in a film reel.

MARTIAN · April 10, 2014, 8:58pm

I’m kind of obsessing over this so I’ve been trying to find anything I can on it. Here’s a video that displays the actual frequency of all these orange flashes:

You can clearly see that all three of them are distinct sounds from one another. Logic would dictate that if this was just a repeated sound effect, it would be one sample used for all three occasions. This implies that, to an extent, these sounds are deliberately different and the difference between them was possibly meant to be noticed.

I’ve seen people suggest that someone overlay the sounds or reel patterns, but haven’t seen anyone actually do it yet.

More thoughts on this from CVG:

*A key clue, as many have noted, is a series of flashing yellow bars that appear whenever someone gets in a chopper. They look a bit like a DNA sequence, or some kind of code. They could be explained away as fanciful lens flare effects, but open your ears, and it’s clearly something more significant.

Every time the flashing yellow bars appear, they’re accompanied by a distinctive audio swoosh. Do lights make a noise? Unlikely. Watch the video above and you’ll hear what we mean.

The flashing bars and audio signature appear three times: 1) When the scarred man enters the chopper (at 05.57 in the trailer) 2) When Snake enters the chopper (at 13.07 in the extended 14-minute trailer with gameplay footage) and 3) When Snake uses his holographic iDroid radar device (at 9.04).

What links the three? Bar the audio and visual signature, it’s not immediately obvious, but all represent communication / transportation devices that ‘break’ the spell of the world. The holographic iDroid device looks especially incongruous for the mooted 70s setting.

Could it be that the chopper doesn’t carry you through physical space, but acts as a conduit to your base - almost like the animus in Assassin’s Creed? Or could it be a linking device in a VR mission? If that was true, the iDroid is ‘reality breaking’ in the same way that Neo contacts the operator within the Matrix.

It sounds insane, but such a device would allow Kojima to skip time periods with ease, covering a rich period of MGS history from the mid 70s to the mid 90s, as we extensively covered in our Metal Gear Solid 5 prediction feature.

It would also explain why Kojima was so quick to dispel rumours when early images showed a young looking, dark haired Snake, plus an older, more wrinkled, greying version. Kojima explained the greying due to Fox Engine’s aggressive rim-lighting - but could it be folk were erring too close to the truth and he wanted to keep a secret? It’s hard to tell, but interesting nonetheless.*

This is the kind of shit that’s going to kill me waiting for Phantom Pain. I want answers goddamn it.

SNAAAAKE · April 11, 2014, 4:51am

as much as I liked mgo, there were some fucked up shit…DAT ALIEN TECHNOLOGY

Richter · April 11, 2014, 5:34am

I’ve been playing Peace Walker for the past few days. It’s not that bad of a game when you consider it’s a PSP game. Makes me feel godlike taking out the three enemies allotted per area :karate:

Kashiyukasthighs · April 11, 2014, 7:20am

The Martian:

I’m kind of obsessing over this so I’ve been trying to find anything I can on it. Here’s a video that displays the actual frequency of all these orange flashes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IcLJSA1FyQ

You can clearly see that all three of them are distinct sounds from one another. Logic would dictate that if this was just a repeated sound effect, it would be one sample used for all three occasions. This implies that, to an extent, these sounds are deliberately different and the difference between them was possibly meant to be noticed.

I’ve seen people suggest that someone overlay the sounds or reel patterns, but haven’t seen anyone actually do it yet.

More thoughts on this from CVG:

*A key clue, as many have noted, is a series of flashing yellow bars that appear whenever someone gets in a chopper. They look a bit like a DNA sequence, or some kind of code. They could be explained away as fanciful lens flare effects, but open your ears, and it’s clearly something more significant.

Every time the flashing yellow bars appear, they’re accompanied by a distinctive audio swoosh. Do lights make a noise? Unlikely. Watch the video above and you’ll hear what we mean.

The flashing bars and audio signature appear three times: 1) When the scarred man enters the chopper (at 05.57 in the trailer) 2) When Snake enters the chopper (at 13.07 in the extended 14-minute trailer with gameplay footage) and 3) When Snake uses his holographic iDroid radar device (at 9.04).

What links the three? Bar the audio and visual signature, it’s not immediately obvious, but all represent communication / transportation devices that ‘break’ the spell of the world. The holographic iDroid device looks especially incongruous for the mooted 70s setting.

Could it be that the chopper doesn’t carry you through physical space, but acts as a conduit to your base - almost like the animus in Assassin’s Creed? Or could it be a linking device in a VR mission? If that was true, the iDroid is ‘reality breaking’ in the same way that Neo contacts the operator within the Matrix.

It sounds insane, but such a device would allow Kojima to skip time periods with ease, covering a rich period of MGS history from the mid 70s to the mid 90s, as we extensively covered in our Metal Gear Solid 5 prediction feature.

It would also explain why Kojima was so quick to dispel rumours when early images showed a young looking, dark haired Snake, plus an older, more wrinkled, greying version. Kojima explained the greying due to Fox Engine’s aggressive rim-lighting - but could it be folk were erring too close to the truth and he wanted to keep a secret? It’s hard to tell, but interesting nonetheless.*

This is the kind of shit that’s going to kill me waiting for Phantom Pain. I want answers goddamn it.

well kojima did state before that he really doesn’t care about what the audience thinks of the plot and shit. If he wants to pull another VR theory game I can see him doing it and then never giving answers to what the story is really about,just as he did with mgs2.

MARTIAN · April 11, 2014, 7:20pm

Kashiyukasthighs:

The Martian:

I’m kind of obsessing over this so I’ve been trying to find anything I can on it. Here’s a video that displays the actual frequency of all these orange flashes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IcLJSA1FyQ

You can clearly see that all three of them are distinct sounds from one another. Logic would dictate that if this was just a repeated sound effect, it would be one sample used for all three occasions. This implies that, to an extent, these sounds are deliberately different and the difference between them was possibly meant to be noticed.

I’ve seen people suggest that someone overlay the sounds or reel patterns, but haven’t seen anyone actually do it yet.

More thoughts on this from CVG:

*A key clue, as many have noted, is a series of flashing yellow bars that appear whenever someone gets in a chopper. They look a bit like a DNA sequence, or some kind of code. They could be explained away as fanciful lens flare effects, but open your ears, and it’s clearly something more significant.

Every time the flashing yellow bars appear, they’re accompanied by a distinctive audio swoosh. Do lights make a noise? Unlikely. Watch the video above and you’ll hear what we mean.

The flashing bars and audio signature appear three times: 1) When the scarred man enters the chopper (at 05.57 in the trailer) 2) When Snake enters the chopper (at 13.07 in the extended 14-minute trailer with gameplay footage) and 3) When Snake uses his holographic iDroid radar device (at 9.04).

What links the three? Bar the audio and visual signature, it’s not immediately obvious, but all represent communication / transportation devices that ‘break’ the spell of the world. The holographic iDroid device looks especially incongruous for the mooted 70s setting.

Could it be that the chopper doesn’t carry you through physical space, but acts as a conduit to your base - almost like the animus in Assassin’s Creed? Or could it be a linking device in a VR mission? If that was true, the iDroid is ‘reality breaking’ in the same way that Neo contacts the operator within the Matrix.

It sounds insane, but such a device would allow Kojima to skip time periods with ease, covering a rich period of MGS history from the mid 70s to the mid 90s, as we extensively covered in our Metal Gear Solid 5 prediction feature.

It would also explain why Kojima was so quick to dispel rumours when early images showed a young looking, dark haired Snake, plus an older, more wrinkled, greying version. Kojima explained the greying due to Fox Engine’s aggressive rim-lighting - but could it be folk were erring too close to the truth and he wanted to keep a secret? It’s hard to tell, but interesting nonetheless.*

This is the kind of shit that’s going to kill me waiting for Phantom Pain. I want answers goddamn it.

well kojima did state before that he really doesn’t care about what the audience thinks of the plot and shit. If he wants to pull another VR theory game I can see him doing it and then never giving answers to what the story is really about,just as he did with mgs2.

I think he likes to keep his fans guessing.

Nothing like a dash of ambiguity to add a sense of complexity to your narrative. /sarcasm

But I’m calling this shit here and now. Those flashes have to be significant. And I’m willing to bet the Film Propaganda Theory is a lot closer to the truth than some are willing to admit.