Yo real talk bison sucks, on paper he looks good but he really isnt. Stand rh is good but what are u going to really do when bison doesn’t have a life lead? His footies are above average but not enough damage to compensate for the mass amount of down-backing you have to do EVERY MATCH. Bison players are forced to do risk/reward with him when obv is will not be in his favor 6 out of ten times. I’m not talking about what if’s either every fight with him if he wins on paper bison is allowed maybe one mistake and that is pushing it on some matches ie rog, gief, rufus, however the matches he loses bison can make no mistakes at all shotos, sagat, vipers and so on.
It is pretty sad too because if he had something damaging maybe he could contend with the higher tier chars outside of playing foooties or just being better than the person you are playing. It gets real old not being able to do damage when you need to because u can’t because the options you have a limited to more risk/reward
this is how i feel a lot of times. but if i get hit, its my fault. should have been more diligent i guess. bison isnt bad, but not good either. i said it before, i want my ultra to go through fireballs or have more damage.
Wait, I just read something, Bison loses to Viper? I’m not sure I agree there.
On second thought, nm, I don’t think I’ve fought a great Viper. I mean, I fought Day 1 Marn Viper, Questionable Controller FlashMetroid Viper, and DevilJin01 not quite perfect Viper. Forget it.
also i think people think hes godlike bc at low level he is amazing. online i be ultraing people and no one gets our of his corner pressure. now i only play other characters to stay away from bad habbits
Well playing more and more and with people obv getting a lot better it is a lot harder for dic to do anything really. Yeah i did say that bison should be able to over come a lot of stuff which he can with gimmicks however these gimmicks are too far in between. He is like the new age vega in a sense. Decent pokes annoying good walk speed but no damage/ really no ultra. How many times will bison players get their shit pushed in before u think like damn i am really getting fucked up. It is no fear when someone is playing vs bison its like yo when he got bar just sit there he can’t do no damage and dont jump 2009 style. What are u going to do sk on in there? Walk up nothing ok thats cool but now u have no charge so? It’s 09 so no jumping in aha i see lets go walk/ dash and grab random combo happens then dead.
I would say the viper match is like 5-5 because at the right range she can flame kick in vs his anti-airs and she just really need a knock down to start mixing. Yeah you could teleport but for that fight wouldn’t u need to fight her up close without getting mixed so you can do the most damage correct? I mean if they are stupid then yeah he wins but players arent dumb anymore and its not day one anymore.
hey if anyone’s got time hit me up on PSN for some matches: darkrurouni84
havent really posted or been to any tournaments in a long time but I try and play SF4 regularly when I get the chance. Wouldn’t mind playing some of the locals to get better and maybe go to that scion tournament if I got time.
Teleport doesn’t get you far enough away in certain situations. Bison can stand roundhouse a lot of her stuff, but (like you said) if she knocks him down it’s pretty much a really annoying guessing game until he gets meter or guesses right with a teleport. Either way, Viper either dizzies Bison or gets the life lead first or Bison wins because they did something dumb and didn’t block.
how hard is it to land ultra with dic?
his focus seems good but it’s risky on any decent armor breaking characters. and jumping strong seems like a gamble too.
At least for right now I think the Viper/Dictator matchup is in Dics favor. Dic just doesn’t have to work as hard to keep Viper out or locked down as Viper does trying to get in or keep him out. Dictator actually does real damage to Viper which is a huge plus considering most of his matchups require him to take a lot of risks just to do 10-20 percent damage.
Plus Viper pretty much always has to be beating him to the punch on things. If Bison sits in place and just reacts with pokes it’s pretty much a wall she has to overcome based on which button he presses. It’s only when she knocks him down that she can really play mind games and even then Bison has a lot of ways to guess out if he has meter stocked up. Which is what Viper kinda wants to do any ways. Safe jump and empty jump on him repeatedly to get him to waste his meter so that he’s more manageable. Plus Viper is one of those characters that’s easy to lock down in the corner and Viper doesn’t really have a shoryu for Bison’s scissors.
It’s not that bad of a match though. The fact that Viper can connect Ultra off anything allows her to come back in the match easily. It’s just when it comes to the ground game…Bison wins hands down. Keep a health lead and stay on your feet and Bison doesn’t have a ton to worry about.
Honda is still her worst match…easily. It was obvious to me before the matchup charts were even out and now the matchup charts say the same.
Yeah, I always hated the Dictator match up with Viper. Kensou told me something important though. Knocking him down is giving him more options. Just FFF into mid knuckle and mix up and stun him from there. Since his EX stomp beats a lot of burning kicks, combined with EX PC, teleport…and the almighty blocking, he’ll get away often when knocked down.
It’s starting to make more sense now. Dictator still has the tools in neutral, my opinion on it now is 5.5-4.5 for Dic. That crouch tech into short scissors is just too dirty on Viper. She has no real frame trap, which…sucks lol.
It could be worse, if Dic’s short were to rapid chain like Rog jabs. Thankfully, 2 and 2 aren’t put together…Rog can get beat up by Viper when he’s knocked down.
That was starting to make sense to me as I thought about the matchup. If you do knock him down there’s no point in outright attacking him much. Better off faking a jump in or generally somehow scaring him into burning meter. All of his wake options are pretty much anti Viper.