: D Got it.
Oh my god. EX Nado is godlike.
I pulled Fei out of his Ultra. He was about 1/4th screen away from me and he did his ultra and even moved, but then he got sucked up.
I also suck up reversals all the time.
Yep. It’s also a great footsie tool since it allows you to punish things that are normally unpunishable. Don’t forget to juggle into Ultra in the corner o.O
Actually, since you have the console version, maybe you can test if Ex Nado juggles into Ultra midscreen against Boxer and Claw, since according to shortshortsuper in the match up thread, Normal Nado juggles into Ultra mid screen against those two.
Just those 2? I will try it out.
EDIT: Neither work. It hits them too far away and the lag at the end doesn’t let you even attempt to reach them 
Nado? You mean Tornado? I was actually gonna ask if it was any good… haha.
So in alot of videos I am seeing QCF: KK used as an Anti-air of sorts. Basically someone jumps in on Rufus and sticks out a normal like J.HK and he does QCF KK and it eats the entire normal and the full combo lands. What is the timing like on this? How viable is it? Does it always work properties etc.
I actually do this a lot of the time and don’t really know it. Usually though when I get that situation to work, it’s when they’re about 3/4ths down from a jump when it happened to me.
Also, a good deadbody cross up after you land an ultra would be, dive kick, then the fwd + mk overhead. It’s pretty good and very hard to react from since you recover right before they get up.
Hope that helps peeps.
Half the time it works for me and half the time it doesn’t (either opponent can block it or I did it too early and just bounce him for 1-2 hit). I can never tell if it works because the opponent was spamming a ground attack.
Someone with the console version should test it =p Shouldn’t take more then 5 mins.
Ex tornado seems to be a good punishment tool for blanka electricity and gief lariats. Though EX Messiah is probably a more damaging option for the latter if you can time it right.
EX Messiah Kick has 16 frames of invincibility which is a little more than a 10th of a second making it so you need to do it right when the opponent is about to hit you. Otherwise it’s basically a free combo/throw if they block it. I’ve had the stupidity to try and go through fireballs with it and I get stuffed most of the time, better to just MP Snake Strike over them.
rufus is god
that is all :3
Well I’ve seen dudes focus cancel the last hit and back dash, so if you have enough meter wouldn’t that make it 100% safe if you did the cancel/backdash on block?
Again sorry if this has been touched on or this is nuubish, I haven’t had alot of time with the game yet. Thankfully spring break will change that 
I think that does indeed make the EX Messiah and og Messiah 100% safe. Of course you need the two stocks that the FADC costs. If the first hit of the Messiah connects then you are guaranteed to hit the (+)LK at the end but if they block the first hit then taking on the (+)LK and FADCing out of the last hit is safe. Doesn’t get you through fireballs though, as Xiii and I can attest.
Yeah, but realistically that means you’re limited to eating wake-ups until you have at least 2 or 3 EX meters (don’t remember if it still costs you 2 EX meters to FADC after an EX move… assuming it does than 3 EX meters) and that is really a lot to pay for a mistake, but yeah technically it is safe. Just not sure if it’s worth it to just avoid a combo at the expense of 2 meters unless the opponent can kill you right then and there on block or you just can’t afford to play wake-up against them (against Zangief would suck, but that’s really the only character i can think of that it’s worth it).
Personally I’d rather just eat the combo so I can get back up and rush down again with that half a super meter.
I only ever burn the 2 stocks to FADC a Messiah Kick in those oh shit moments where I’m thinking to myself as I go through the air “whytf did I just do that?” or if I’m going gung-ho and out-on-a-limb looking for an in; it’s nice to be able to reset a mistake like that, and the heavy cost is there to help me try learn my lesson of not using such foolish strategy.
I have put together a list of the people you can Galactic Tornado into Ultra from anywhere on screen. In alphabetical order
Abel | No
Akuma | No
Balrog (Boxer) | Yes
Blanka | No
Cammy | No
Crimson Viper | No
Chun-Li | No
Dan | No
Dhalsim | No
E. Honda | No
El Fuerte | No
Fei Long | No
Gen | No
Gouken | No
Guile | No
Ken | No
M. Bison (Dictator) | No
Rose | No
Rufus | No
Ryu | No
Sagat | No
Sakura | No
Seth | No
Vega (Claw) | Yes
Zangief | Yes
Thanks for testing… ZANGIEF… Wow… that’s gonna help the match up a lot.
Haha wouldn’t it have been easier to type
"boxer, claw and russian"
Yes, but then people would be asking me to test it on everyone else. So might as well put up the full list.
It makes me mad because some people are SO EFFING close to being hit.
Like Dictator, his feet go just below my hands If he lifted his feet up a little more it would destroy him.
Which sucks because I have a hell of a time against a decent dictator. Feels like I can’t get anywhere in that match without meter.