I was asked by someone to post this as we had a convo/debate about it and since i have great extensive knowledge of the character i dont mind putting it here. Bison has been in over 20 fighting games and skill level varies in each one so here it is…
Dictator
SF2 Championship Edition
SF2 Hyper Fighting
SF2 New Challengers
Super Turbo
Capcom Fighting Jam
Alpha
Alpha 2 &gold
Alpha 3, Upper & Max
CVS 1
CVS 2
SVC
XMVSF
MVSF
MVC2
EX, EX+, EX+alpha
EX2 & plus
EX3
SF4
SSF4
SSF4 ae
**hyper alpha (crossover mix)
**Hyper Super Turbo: AE (crossover mix)
** Street Fighter the movie (alienated FG)
Best 10
1st. CVS 2 (A Groove)
2nd. CE
3rd. EX 1 series (plus and alpha)
4th. A1
5th. ST
6th. EX2 & plus
7th. SSF4 AE
8th. SSF4
9th. CFJ
10. New Challengers
Bottom 3
A3
SVC
CVS 1
hes most likley in sf movie as one of his worst games but that I have no info or comment on whatsoever
Amen
an aside:
people complain there’s too many versions of SF4, even though the community asked for it.
BUT:
SF2 - 6 versions (Hyper Anniversary)
SFA - 6 versions (Gold, Max, and Upper)
SF3 - 4 versions (If you count the remake of 3S for the DC)
SF4 - 3 versions
The OGs had to put up with a lot of this bullshit.
ON TOPIC!:
CE Bison was crazier than CvS2 Bison. Why? You need to PTF to really demolish peopl, and if your A-Groove generally wasn’t solid, you couldn’t bring him over to C, like Blanka or Sakura. CE Bison just needs to spam Psycho Crusher, and with or without a crossup PC gameplan, you can go in the fight with that knowledge and still piss people off.
Best Bison versions:
Super Turbo: He was somewhat difficult to pick up and use because he takes a high level of execution but he had great normals, his mobility gave him room to make your opponent guess your next move and his combo damage was insane. If you landed say J.HK (or crossup), S.Short X2, C.MK, Scissors Kick, you pretty much were guaranteed a win.
Champion Edition: Nothing really to say. One of the purest definitions of the term “god tier”
CVS2: One of the top 3-4 characters in the game thanks to A-Groove.
Hey, JeRon. How have you been? Haven’t seen you since Final Round 2008.
I think CE should be over CvS2. Even when Bison has meter, he still isn’t as dangerous as CE Bison, who can KO you on one touch. It takes more skill to use A-Bison than CE-Bison (remember Tokido’s one-week Bison in 2006?). Also, if you are including Hyper Alpha, he should be way up there. CE-ISM is just broken.
Also, HF should be one of the worst Bison’s. That Bison is even worse than A3 Bison (who is bad, but not THAT bad). HF Bison got nerfed from everything that CE Bison had.
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Well the reason it was a little against dic in ce was having no reversal so you had to take hits sometime if you didnt want to get thrown to get reverse throw but if the opponent knew that you would get hit with a heavy combo, so it made it somewhat of a guess (educated guess)
CVS2 Bison has roll cancel so that makes it a little harder to rush him down even without the custom because you have to always be wary of the person just doing it. Sometimes they sacrafice the life just to get out the corner and do it anyway…now hes full screen again and building meter. RC devil reverse rc headpress short scissor kick and he has custom again. Hit the custom, hell attack away cr.fwds and dr’s full screen…build meter for himself and sometimes get another custom or before the next characte comes in before he goes. Sometimes it would take a character and a half to take out Bison.
I agree that the skill/learning curve is higher for him in cvs 2 than it is in CE but that doesnt make him better but agree to disagree.
CE he got those crazy lockdown/traps though…poor Sim!
HF Bison got nerfs but still a good character…his matchups stayed relatively the same around the board from CE with the exception of shotos, edit Blanka, Chun
Bison in the EX series is very good. In EX 1 he’s solid, but on EX 2 and 3 (where he’s one of the bests ‘set-up’ characters) he is insane.
So, it should be:
1-) CvS2 Dictator — Homo runaway, homo meter building, homo specials, when paired with RC and a CC that drinks your lifebar, makes him top of the top on the sea cheese that is CvS2.
2-)CE Vega – Damm… Scissors that dont knock down (and you can combo after them), PC that chips on block like it is hitting, PC crosses up randomly… He isnt better that CvS2 Bison because zoning in this game is TIGHT, otherwise…
3-)EX 3 Bison: Can set up ALL the combos from other characters with his Scissors (they dont knock here either), with tag into RAPE (Garuda CP being the biggest offender), and also is a great characters at comboing from a tag (even if they are juggled, his psycho ball can catch ANYTHING, into PC). Also, great kick throw that sets up a lot of stuff (you can juggle after them), mainly with sagat.
4-) ST DIC: Really a wildcard, but when he gets rollin’, he is nasty. A lot of 100%, great and tricky Crossups, great ground game…
5-)EX2 Raul Julia: Remember that kick throw? EXCEL BABY. His Psycho Ball is really good at stopping empty into activate jumpins, btw.
Dats my tier list. Other DIC’s arent worth a dime when compared to their more cheaper counterparts.
CE does have reversals. It just doesn’t show the message. The difficulty with fighting CE bison is that to escape his lockdown you have to guess reversal, and if you guess wrong it’s dizzy into death.
Sim can handle Bison. In the sf2ce thread vids from a few recent China vs Korea tournies were posted and a Sim player won it for China. I think the vids were lost in the forum upgrade though.