Neither of the giants have any worthwhile options against BLOCKING. How are they going to stop any turtle, let alone Karas?
lightan grab can be mashed out of on reaction, making it effectively useless
giant’s don’t do a lot of damage, because their combos are ass. lightan can get pretty good damage if he lands 3C in the corner, and PTX gets chainsaw super after shoulder rush… but yeah. find me something that does any real damage, and then tell me a way to land it on somebody who doesn’t want to get hit by it, then i might change my mind
again, good luck hitting somebody with lightan jump super if they don’t want to be hit by it
No, they dont really have that much life at all. Lightan has 59k life, while ryu (mr average) has 45k. Thats not even close to double. Karas has 38k, so lightan isnt even double that. PTX has even less life (54k i think).
Time will tell on this one, but you are right. BBQ is point based, not percent, so giant baroques can hurt very much.
Correct ME if I’m wrong, but don’t giant’s normals chip? I could have sworn they did.
im starting to agree with this, is there anyone who counters chun well?
I thought that Ryu beats TvC?
Yeah giants definitely don’t beat up on Karas like people say. He can juggle them from his command grab, which is ridiculous since not getting juggled is the only thing they have going for them.
who beat who and no talk of ken the eagle? anyone ever played someone who know what they’re doing with this guy?
Ken’s crazy, really good character. He’s just as solid as ryu, but with more tricks it seems like.
I’d say Karas rapes Polymar for free with push block and poly sucking against push. Karas sorta rapes tekkaman too, but if tekkaman can HIT karas, well. It’s over.
I play Ken the eagle…in my opinion he is better than solid…his offense is crazy, he has too many tricks and every thing he does is safe…his only thing he would be lacking is damage. For example characters like ryu, polymer, chun li have easy half life combos…while he doesn’t. He makes up for this with priority. I think he owns chun and he has an even fight against Karas because of his movement.
i mentioned ken because i came across a player i just couldnt beat. i havent played much except for vs cpu though but still his game was crazy. i use ryu, he’s not even close to ken the eagle from what i’ve seen so far. dude mix up game is out of this world, throwing boomerangs, flying all over the screen, assist behind you, overhead, teleport and yea all his shit is safe. its so easy for him to hit you that it doesnt matter if his combos dont take too much damage.
nope
Except for Ryu’s pokes are longer and have higher priority, Ryu’s airs have higher priority, and Ryu has the infamous Shoryuken which still have start-up invulnerability frames and serves as one of the best anti-airs in the game. Don’t get me wrong. Ken is actually very solid and easily Tier 2 but Ryu is the sauce. Upper tier list is around here:
Tier 1: Ryu, Chun-Li, Karas
Tier 1.5: Alex
Tier 2: Saki, Polymar, Ken, Casshern, Morrigan
Tier 2.5: Viewtiful Joe, Jun, Roll (Trying to get Roll to tier 2 myself ^^)
Please feel free to evaluate as we haven’t extensively gone over all the characters like Soki, Tekkaman, or Daimao.
Isn’t it WAY to early to tell? The game has only been out for a month and there has been 1 tourney. Everyone moves around all the time until there has been a ton of tourneys. Even then the “unbeatable” strats start to become beatable causing the tier list to move even more.
alex has one low his down C…how do u imagine u would open up a character besides special grab…how does alex get in on megaman…alex does hurt but unfortunately he doesn’t have the tools to consistently do this…and i don’t think alex is on the same plane as morrigan…but we will see as the game grows
Actually they both do chip. It just doesn’t register in training mode because usually the damage is so small. In VS mode (where I just blocked), both giants chipped away. Do it enough and you’ll notice it.
doesn’t the portrait in the life bar shake when things do chip damage?
Usually yes, but it doesn’t always with the giants (though it will do it for them as well at times).
Isnt that weird?
It’s just a prototype and it’s nowhere near final as like you said, the game has only been out for a month. If I needed to produce one today though, that’s what it would look like and obviously, it’ll be changed as time goes on. Chun & Ryu will probably be tier 1.5 at the very lowest just because their stuff is so solid.
Since when did characters need good hi-low games to be good? Especially in one as linear as this? Alex’s damage and special grabs (hcb + C & 360 degree A+B) along with his jump C and all of it’s cancel capabilities served as my decision. Alex can use an assist to cover space against Megaman, has solid range in pokes, silly tick throw set-ups, an decent anti-air, and ridiculous burst damage. Although I’ll admit, I’m slightly biased as I haven’t seen many play against him. Maybe he’s tier 2 but no less than that at current.
If i were to say who’d be top tier at this point it would be
Ken
Chun Li
Karas
Ryu
Joe