Matchup Specific Viable Supers

[circle_masher]

Coming down would be the biggest problem, considering how fast Alex finishes the jump. He’s bound to hit the remaining SA2, which Oro could possibly capitalize with another chicken juggle opportunity after landing. Then again all of this is theoretical coming from me, it’d be cool if someone could test it out.

He can get out of the Kuroda corner setup(chicken juggle->reset cr.HP->SA2->HK->EX Booger into high/low) with it, but wakeup SA2 would be way better in that regard.

What about FP SA3 so you fly across the screen to escape though instead of trying to catch Oro with it? If Oro does this to you in the corner is there a danger that he could cross you up so you just Stungunned yourself in to the same corner and hit his super? I’m not an Oro player but I’ll try to test it if you give me the exact scenario you want me to try.

[aku]

What about FP SA3 so you fly across the screen to escape though instead of trying to catch Oro with it? If Oro does this to you in the corner is there a danger that he could cross you up so you just Stungunned yourself in to the same corner and hit his super? I’m not an Oro player but I’ll try to test it if you give me the exact scenario you want me to try.

Yeah, I edited my previous post while you were typing this out, my bad. haha
I forgot about HP Stungun as an escape option, and if he does recover quick enough landing, then it could be like Elena’s Healing in that there’s all but nothing Oro can do to catch him.

That’s a pretty expensive escape tool though, considering Oro could just outrun and outzone Alex.

[circle_masher]

Yeah, I edited my previous post while you were typing this out, my bad. haha
I forgot about HP Stungun as an escape option, and if he does recover quick enough landing, then it could be like Elena’s Healing in that there’s all but nothing Oro can do to catch him.

That’s a pretty expensive escape tool though, considering Oro could just outrun and outzone Alex.

I just had Oro backthrow Alex in to the corner, MP SA2, HK Chicken and Alex’s HP Stungun took him to halfscreen fast enough that it looked to me like Oro couldn’t do anything about it. Like you say, probably not worth the meter sacrifice in the grand scheme of things but 3S being 3S I’m sure this would be at least one person’s cup of tea somewhere out there in the world, haha.

Healing vs Q is not as good as vs Hugo IMO, he can catch her pretty easily with dash punch while Hugo can only, well, SA3 (held)? Ex (held) lariat to get closer (will not even hit her i think)?.

Hugo has nothing, lol.

[Hol_Horse]

My test:

Crouch block FK Slash xx LP Stungun = EX Lariat strikes Alex
Crouch hit FK Slash xx LP Stungun = EX Lariat strikes Alex
Stand block FK Slash xx LP Stungun = EX Lariat strikes Alex
Stand hit FK Slash xx LP Stungun = EX Lariat strikes Alex

Crouch block FK Slash xx MP Stungun = EX Lariat escapes under Alex
Crouch hit FK Slash xx MP Stungun = EX Lariat strikes Alex (I believe I got an underneath escape once but I discount it as I wasn’t paying full attention and can’t recreate it)
Stand block FK Slash xx MP Stungun = EX Lariat escapes under Alex
Stand hit FK Slash xx MP Stungun = EX Lariat escapes under Alex

I tested this on OE and you’re wrong, it strikes Alex out of LP and escapes underneath MP. It’s either a peculiarity of OE compared to other versions , or you just weren’t fast enough on the EX Lariat (Hugo visually beats Stungun really cleanly with it). Which version did you originally test this on?

I tested it on PS2, like 4-5 years ago. I remember I was sure of getting the reversal message. Maybe it was a different version of slash, or it was the cancel speed (the move is sorta last cancellable)
anyways it requires meter, so still can be dangerous

[Louiscipher]

Personally I feel that Alex is at advantage against Oro. Moreso with EX but the big problem is getting out of the SA2 unblockable, which is a little harder I think because of Alex’s larger hitbox.

I would think you could do HP Stun Gun to escape the setup. Alex builds meter fairly quickly so it’s not a huge game-changing loss to use meter to escape it I think.

[OMG_its_a_duck]

louis pls go

[WTF-AKUMA-HAX]

Victoly uses it vs Gouki. Maybe other characters but I don’t know. If Dud blocks any tatsu, reversal SA1 does close to 50% damage ><

Ouch.

Last time, hopefully, with the swagger jack JP since I didn’t notice it until now in the video.

Someone

Spoiler

(another JP man even? maybe, doesn’t play anymore Haitani confused dude)

asked why Rocket Upper SA1 Dudley on Makoto. Kokujin confirms yes SA1 on Makoto. Probably for the extra damage when you finally get an opening, also he tried crMP Super on a Mak dash. Didn’t get it, he was mad about that. Cost him the round.

[ryan]

Dart shot cork only works if you’re right on top of Makoto. With rocket, you can be a little farther away.

[Hol_Horse]

Minor point of course, but could it be that Corckscrew losing to karakusa (if already active) also plays a role in this?