I’ll throw in the ability to do a jumping attack then cancel into the air jaguar on hit. Anti Focus Attack?
S’all i got…
He can cancel into it after hitting with something else? This guy gets more annoying every second. I have to admit that I am in the dark against him even though most of his pressure is simplistic and routine. As long as the Adon player is good with spacing and is tight with blockstrings, and he blocks…I lose. Can we even punish a blocked jag kick? The best I’ve come up with is kongo after because they like to throw out a low afterwards, but that doesn’t work enough against smart players.
technically lk and mk lag kicks are -3 on block. Spaced right, you got nothing.
HK version is like -5. EX probably is more.
air versions recover instantly. but kongoable/focusable.
Ok this is my foundation of basics when I fight Adon players…
This is a hard fight so this is my focus… Keep adon back and away! Do not let adon land a c.rh or ex jag kick! If you can hold your ground and don’t let adon get a knockdown it’s a lot easier to win…
main tools fireballs, s.lk, c.rh, s.mk, block.
Never abuse neutral jump… Got hit by too many jag kicks…
Lp fireball in footsies not baiting bc jag kick can be used.
S.mk is my fav tool vs jag kick… I use it to prevent the kick from even coming out towards me so u have to anticipate it but the mk is a pretty fast move. S.fp can be used too but it comes out slower and risk a c.rh from adon.
Learn the range of s.lk.
Learn WHEN to use the c.rh…
That’s just a few tips that I hope can help u guys win more vs adon players
I personally like ultra 2 bc it’s better to use vs jag kicks than shin sho… Adon can do a short version of the jag kick and make u whiff the shin sho… Denjin will hit any version
Once u have a forbidden u now can punish a blocked ex jag kick And this does change the game more than people think due to it being fast, goes through fireballs, it’s an overhead, and the one thing I try to stay away from is getting knocked down… Taking that option away gives me more time in this fight
Sticking to a more old school simple style works for me
There’s a a lot more but this match is all about the players you have to out smart the adon… And carefully poke and end the match… Just like goukens win quote."" Don’t focus on destroying your foe but maintaining your own victory""
Blocked Jaguar kicks (except EX and Airs don’t bother)
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[]Forward throw
[]cl.st.MK
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***Blocked Jaguar Tooth
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[]Depends on which version
[]MK (-1) and HK (-2) versions are not punishable
[]LK (-4) and EX (-5), so mostly quick 3-4 frame normals and Forward throws
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Hey Guys.
I asked to play a really good Adon to see how I’d do.
I would appreciate your opinions, we had 9 matches. I won’t tell you the overall score.
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It’s not easy, but If there’s any areas which I’m missing that you can see I’d appreciate the criticism.
PS: Again I commentate, apologese if I annoy.
Just the next 6 fights of that Adon fellow.
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Give 5 minutes for this one to upload
I’ll be heading into Training Room to try and figure things out.
I’ll come back with my findings later on. =)
My biggest tip would be as you walk back and forward to gain position throw a st. mk out there to make him do something other than jagga kick. You will kick him out of the start up if you call it right and/or he just does it.
That would give you more breathing room and another way to pace the match.
to rephrase the above tip… you can occupy the space that the Jaguar-kick passes through with the st. MK.
If that space is always clear, Adon is free to enter it.
If you use the st. MK, it will at least not be clear 100% of the time.
That said, don’t suddenly focus everything around st. MK either
Also: I just tried this only in training mode, but cr. HP seems to be the best counter against his wall-attack. Do it as soon as you see him land on the ceiling-corner of the wall.
i saw the videos, and he destroys you… something that try to do is spam hados, specially mp ones, because they can stop any jaguar kick, for those who likes to spam the jaguar tooh (i think thats the name) when you see him going up to the top side of the screen you can do st hp or cr hp and they will stop him, if he does the ex one we have to do it a little bit earlier, and st mk stop it too…
another thing is that you can do cr tech with mk so instead of cr tech Lp + Lk do Lp+Lk+mk it will help a lot and when you are close by him dont be afraid to poke him with stand mk or hp or hk, even though he has a good stand hk worst case scenario is a trade or him doing a rising jaguar… hope it helps you
Well that’s true, I was afraid of his Ultra most likely not to mention his EX
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there you go men, hope it helps you
Hi everyone,
After I had some trouble in the Adon matches above,
I decided I’d head into Training Room and try to find out everything I could to help out.
Here lies the spoils of that Training. Hope it helps some.
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I’ll re-iterate a point from the video:
If you hard knockdown Adon face up, you can safe jump him as usual.
If you hard knockdown Adon face down, (Forward Throw does this) then he gains an additional 1F invincibility.
This makes safe jumps revert from 2F leeway back to 1F, and you have to manually delay your safe jump timing to account for that.
Thought that was Very Interesting.
(Other characters suffer from this type of thing too. - Might need a Google account to view.)
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If Adon does ex jagga tooth, you can wait until he almost hits you and use ex palm like you would srk and beat it clean.
I was also going to include that sweep and cr lk are starting to be reliable I faux poke strings for baiting and then causing the whiff
Did Capcom fuck up when they made Adon? Every one of his specials is completely spammable, almost unpunishable, and breaks armor. What the hell is wrong with these developers? Thought they wanted to create a balanced game…
vs sal, nothing big just a lil sample…
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Honestly, if you think about it, Adon would be complete shit if his jag kicks were non armor breaking and unsafe on block. It’s literally the only thing he has. His normals are still godlike though.
I just think there’s a handful of characters in the game that can be played without any thought whatsoever because of the spammability of their moves. Adon. Blanka comes to mind. Cody with that stupid jab pressure, frametrap shit. E honda. Maybe I just suck at those matchups though.
Haha that is AWESOME. I normally just f.st.hp for that 120, geez that move is godlike. I wanna see if your ex palm thing works though for real. Only thing I’m concerned about is if he does a different version. Atm I can just f.st.hp and be safe if he does a different one. If he does medium or low we would probably get hit, no? Or worse combo’d if he does light. Maybe its me and my poor reactions, but I dont look for a flash or anything…when I see him jump up to the wall I just push the button. I dont wanna do ex palm and he baited me out.