MAS Systems Xbox 360 Joystick

soulhadou, i had some questions about this if ya dont mind…

  1. How long is the cord? I hope its greater than 6 ft.

  2. Does it have a voice/headst port? Does it work clearly?

  3. any input lag?

  4. Is it comp stick /comp buttons? with the traditional MAS super pro-stick layhout

  5. Have you tried with puzzle fighter umk3, doa (nontraditional games)? Thoughts?

  6. does it work with PC w/o any converter?

Thanks
Never had a sitck (Mas ) or otherwise.

Here are some answers:

  1. The cord is about 8 ft long, maybe a bit longer.

  2. It doesn’t have voice/headset capability.

  3. There isn’t any input lag that I could notice. Seems to respond as good as my wired Xbox 360 controller.

  4. It can come with either comp, ultimate, or p360. The layout is the same as their other controllers. Your options would be either a 9 button (SF style, 3 buttons on 3 buttons with start/select/xbox) or 11 button (4 on 4).

5)I tried it with SF2 and Bomberman Live, and in both cases it worked great.

  1. Just tried it on my living room computer with ZSNES and it works beautifully.

How much is it going to cost?

$155 + shipping. I should have it up sometime this weekend. I’m still messing around trying to make it look right on the site. If anyone is interested in the meantime I can take orders by phone or via email through the “contact us” section of the site.

I look forward to pictures of the stick. Wish it had a mic port though. The wireless mic cost $60…

I’ll post some pictures in a few minutes. As for the wireless mic, I sell those as well and can probably save people a few bucks if they bundle it with the joystick. If there’s enough interest in that I’ll put it together.

SoulHadou, please include close pictures of the board or chip being used inside. If its using something like a hacked PCB, we can confirm it and give it a ‘lag proof’ label. :slight_smile:

The curiosity is killing me.

http://www.alphaelectronics.com/showpages.asp?pid=1025

There are some general pictures of the joystick, including one of the inside. This page will be redone this weekend, and those pictures may or may not be there, so save them if you need to. I plan on making the page much better looking with some additional pictures and videos.

Go ahead and take pics, even if you cant see markings. I’ll be able to tell something about it just by seeing it.

The real key is a separate chip, small with 8 pins. Might be a through hole chip, but mostly they are surface mount and should have ‘XBOX’ written on the top. Whatever is or isn’t there, I’d just like to see it, and you can’t take too many. Whatever you show, its appreciated.

http://www.alphaelectronics.com/images/masinnards.jpg

And that answers everything. It uses a hacked controller, so you can declare with pride that its lag-free. Damn. I was hoping he figured a way around the protection. It also looks like the fierce and roundhouse are going to the triggers (look at the resistors), and not the bumper switches. I’m not really sure I like that idea.

Also, for those that want headset support, get a cell phone headset sized extension cable, open the bottom plate, plug it into the board, and run the extension cable out with the USB cable.You wont have the mute switch or volume control, but you’ll have headset.

looks like they just use a wired 360 controller pcb rather than their own chip.

If it is in fact a regular 360 pcb, then that would definitely explain why it works so good! :slight_smile:

wait, are they licensed by Microsoft? are they allowed to do this without permission from them?

Edit: is that tape or some silicon caulk or something like that?

IANAL, but my understanding is that it is legal. The security chip is required to be usable on an xbox360. You must get license and clearance from Microsoft in order to buy and use the security chip, which the third party manufacturers like MadCatz do so they can make the controllers. The result, the third party controller, is a true product, and doesnt require a license agreement on the part of the purchaser (MAS Systems in this case).

MadCatz hasnt voilated their license, and MAS Systems doesnt have or need a license. Even if they wanted to sue MAS for this (and there is no reason they would) for DMCA violations, this is VERY clearly a use for the purpose of interoperability, clearly stated in the DMCA as an acceptable use.

Looks like scotch tape to routing the wires and keeping contacts from touching. There is a screw securing the board to the wood, the tape is just for insulation and routing.

No clue. At this point I’m not even sure it is a Microsoft pcb, I’m just posting the pictures for everyone to see that this stick, just like all their other products, are put together pretty nicely on the outside and the inside. :rock:

As for the other question, I think it’s scotch tape holding down the wires to the pcb.

okay, i just thought that 3rd parties had to manufacture their own pcbs, but i guess i wouldn’t see why this is a problem now that you point that out

okay i see the tape clearly now, at first kinda looked like they just poured hot glue over everything to keep it sealed

Hey SoulHadou, just curious, will for some reason these cost more than the other primary system configurations? or will the base be 95 bones?

Whew…it’s almost Miller Time

Base for this joystick is $155 + shipping (9 button version) and $165 + shipping (11 button version) as mentioned earlier in this thread. It gives you compatibility for the Xbox 360 and PC. It is also available with the P360 joystick at an additional cost.

dammit, sorry i missed that

How much for a 9 button with a P360 joystick and a Wireless mic?

I’m actually putting together a special that will include the wireless mic. Check out the site tomorrow, and keep an eye on this thread as I will be posting the link as soon as everything is ready.

Alright I look forward to it.