Finally finished it tonight. Last few episodes were great. All Luke has done is made me want more Luke.
“He said, ‘Give me your jacket.’ Then I gave him my jacket…”
I don’t disagree that he might be skeptical but I think he’s aware enough that his not seeing/seeing ability is a super power.
i dunno stick made it seem like he has a rare gift but not an anomaly. mainly cause stick has the same thing going on.
So something’s gonna happen to her and she’s gonna need “defending”?
I don’t think anything will happen to her. I think she’s gonna be the one to get them all on the same page. She will be the glue that keeps them together.
One thing that I don’t think was brought up. In the 616, having a strong will is supposed to be able to stop Killgrave’s power. What Jess showed could be this, but seemed more related to her trauma from killing Reva.
I always thought that was just Doom being his usual badass self.
Daredevil was able to avoid his power too, although I think that was more because he could just focus elsewhere (instead of hearing Kilgrave give commands, he could just listen to an ant walking, four miles away). Jessica got sent to get fucked up by the Avengers because Kilgrave sent her after Daredevil, and she confused Scarlet Witch for Daredevil.
Doom is a badass, nonetheless.
I figured Night Nurse would be the Nick Fury of the group. When shit went down, and the city itself got scared, she would be the one to unite the Defenders.
By “unite the group” I was thinking more Phil Coulson than Nick Fury.
Coulson could work in the role, I guess. Perhaps the existence of people like Killgrave sparks him to help where the Avengers or SHIELD can’t.
Finally finished Jessica Jones. It was good for the most part but there were some things that really bothered me later on.
Episodes 10-12 were completely stupid. These episodes felt like a lazy placeholder to the finale because they exhausted all the interaction with Killgrave way too quickly. Initially, I didn’t mind watching JJ interact with tertiary characters because it gave you a measure of her personality, but later on I hated having to wade through annoying dialogue and forced buildup with Ruben, his mess of a sister, lesbo yuppie drama and Afro Junkie’s needy ass.
Episode 10 was when everything went to shit for me plot~wise. Afro junkie’s idiotic admission of a grave crime in a public bar with the creepy ginger sister being present, and then her psychobabble pep talk into badgering JJ was pure insanity to watch. Also Nuke being a random brainwashed cop that was suddenly interwoven with IGH, Jessica, and Trish felt like too much of coincidence, but whatevs. I kind of wished the series was done BBC style where the plot doesn’t get stretched too thin in order fill out an episode quota; this season could’ve ended in 9-10 episodes flat. Also, Hope’s importance dwindled sharply every time Jessica’s complacency allowed Killgrave to wantonly murder or torture another innocent victim, just to save her from life imprisonment. [details=Spoiler] Which didn’t even matter in the long run.[/details]
But now for the good ish. Killgrave was an amazing villain, he felt like a really fleshed-out character with all the intricacies of the protagonist. The creative ways he used his power, along with his intelligence made him fun to watch, much more than Kingpin. He was the classic unapologetic psychopath.
I don’t know why they changed Purple man/Killgrave’s powers from pheromones to a virus, as the former explanation made a lot more sense. (Olfactory stimuli activates pathways in the brain infinitely more quickly than a viral infection, and many social creatures control their kin via pheromones- like bees/ wasps and naked mole rats.)
Jessica Jones and Killgrave’s interaction and overall relationship was as disturbing as it was hilarious, I kept having to remind myself that he was an unapologetic serial rapist and murderer who destroyed untold lives.
Luke Cage was cool, I liked how Jessica Jones became vulnerable around him and vice versa. I also liked how their interactions didn’t overshadow the main plot.
And finally…
Spoiler
Hooray!!! Killgrave was killed! Seriously, that alone made my day after painfully dredging through the penultimate 3 eps. He was waaaaay too dangerous to be allowed live. I wonder if Matt Murdock will ever have to cross that line next season? I know Shane The Punisher will, heheh.
Another plus was seeing Lester Freeman again. [details=Spoiler] But why he gotta go out like that![/details]
I agree with most of your points, but not this one here.
This show is about empathy. It’s not just about “stopping another victim from happening,” it’s about “making all (as many of) the victims okay as they go along,” and sometimes Jessica herself doesn’t see that or does actions that go right against it. But almost all the arcs that wrap up do so in that way, if not by her, then by the people that try to move on.
Saving Hope is not just about her not getting life imprisonment. Hope was helpless against Killgrave, symbolic of all his victims, and helping save her means you can save everyone, including Jessica herself. And honestly, Jessica’s plans would have worked if it weren’t for…
[details=Spoiler]Simpson. Simpson, while initially being presented as a wronged party, was always “wrong” throughout the series, because he wasn’t on board the save Hope/everyone plan. He was the kill the problem, end problem guy, no matter what the cost. He himself gets in the way multiple times, and the more he’s “convinced” he’s right, the more he actively fucks up the plot.
He’s the guy that thinks he knows better, but he really doesn’t. He’s the “nice guy,” who isn’t actually all that nice underneath. He thinks what he thinks is right, no matter what, which fucks up and endangers many people over and over again. It’s even foreshadowed in his how-did-Trish-not-find-this-creepy story of burning down the dream house and soldiers to rescue Barbie…which was ironically recreated when his boys got blown up.
He’s similar to Killgrave in that respect. He has a relatively nicer veneer on top, but he always tramples over other people’s wishes, just like Killgrave. Even when he was the victim, he refused to leave the front of Trish’s place, staying put there. Then later on when they make plans he always knows better, and fucks things up, constantly, before finally just right out going fuck you, I know best, Imma lock you inside and kill anyone who knows.
Killgrave is on the other hand a victim blamer. It’s not meeeeee, you killed her when I asked you to take care of her. I just said throw coffee on your face, I didn’t expect him to actually do it. HOw could I know how strong my power is when I test it out all the tiiiiime. I’m such a nice guy, I bought this house with real money and then made it a paradise for you even th ough you didn’t ask me to. Look, I even doubled the help’s salary, for the measly price of having to listen to my orders no matter what. Why are you uncomfortable again? I’m such a nice guy.
They they both lack empathy. How it comes out and how they disguise it is different, but ultimately they serve the same purpose. Hogarth too has similar parallels to them, and she causes the entire final arc to happen. [/details]
Hope may not have been that important plot-wise by the end, but I think she’s essential to the themes of the story. The person that caused you trauma can b killed, but that doesn’t mean your trauma disappears, nor does it mean your situation changes if the trauma led you someplace dark/bleak/hopeless. Helping people heal is more than just removing a toxic person from their lives.
You know, on reflection, I think in terms of overall plot/theme, this is probably better than Daredevil, even if it is a bit too long and could have had some things trimmed. It lacks some of DD’s nuance/script/direction, but what it did want to do I think it did really well.
I didn’t think Simpson really screwed anything up. Everytime he tried something Jessica would stop him and her plan ultimately worked anyway. It was Hoegarth that screwed it up by tampering with the wires which led to dumbass Trish shooting up the glass and freeing Killgrave.
I thought Simpson with the pills was kind of dumb.
I understood what the eponymously “nuanced” Hope represented to Jessica; in fact, it was practically hamfisted, but in the long run there was no viewer payoff. Her character felt so divorced from the plot in the latter half of the season that her death didn’t carry any emotional weight and her symbolism was just a flicker of what it once was. It’s not necessarily the fact that she died, but how it was set up didn’t add any drama for me as a viewer.
The cop represented another extreme but that doesn’t mean his perception was completely off base, Jessica’s plight as the empathetic hero caused similar damage. Don’t forget Nuke’s stubbornness is what allowed Jessica to capture Killgrave a second time, so he wasn’t just some malevolent interloper until the latter half.
Oh I also liked that nurse Rosario Dawson is tied up with these various heroes. Her coinciental encounter wit Jessica and Luke actually made sense as well as her relaxed attitude to the zaniness.
Overall I still enjoyed Daredevil more, simply because the action was more engaging and I feel the plot is going more places. Jessica Jones was slightly more dark, gritty, and gloomy, but from a purely entertainment standpoint Daredevil made me eager for more.
I can don’t think Trish was a dumbass for shooting the glass. She did got one shot on him and could have gotten the kill if she didn’t run out of ammo.
no one found out he murdered the cop…kinda lame
nope. i dont know most of the people in this show outside of luke
Gimme a red.
Jessica found out
And I doubt you or most people care.