Finally finished it yesterday, with mixed feelings.
Pros:
-Decent chemistry amongst the cast. It wasn’t Avengers level and some dialogue felt wooden but it at least showed some bonding.
-fight scenes were more or less better respectively, although still had some issues regarding certain things (spoilers)
-Misty Knight’s Great big
**Cons:
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-I have a lot of things to say regarding the series, with a lot of little things I’ve forgotten since I binged but here’s a few:
Spoiler
The initial pacing was actually quite good, with nice buildup, but then 2/3rds through the show started to fall apart. My biggest gripe is how ineffectual the leaders of The Hand were. Daredevil season 1 Hand/ Gao felt godlike and ominous, only to be reduced to a bunch of long-lived mooks with childish tendencies (like servile Madame Gao, and whipped Bakuto). Sigourney Weaver did her job, but the whole organization’s structure felt weak on top, and utterly reliant of middle management to maintain order. As a result, I couldn’t really see them as true leaders or badasses, more like high ranked soldiers working for some invisible Inspector Gadget-like villain in the shadows. In an attempt to humanize them, the writers only served to make them feel like petulant children, only bonded through their long lives and treachery. In real life such long term unions would’ve lead to an implosive disaster centuries ago, not the discrete multinational web-like influence they’ve enjoyed. The unusual diversity with each of the leaders somehow traveling to the remote Kun Lun from all corners of the world hundreds of years ago to Tibet was “interesting”, especially knowing how race relations were in the past, but I overlooked it. It’s funny how the African Sowande dude still died first though. lol
Black Sky’s hype was also met with underwhelming results. The aura of an unstoppable killing machine The Hand/ Defenders tried to create fell flat when she kept failing to do real damage until the near end. She was able to kick fully grown men several feet through glass windows and block attacks from superhumans, next she stumbles from a few blows from ordinary humans or gets outpaced a few scenes later. Actually, the overall strength of the characters seemed to fluctuate a lot and make you lose a sense of their strength levels due to the choreography. Like sometimes they display ridiculous feats of strength/ durability, and other times a character like Jessica Jones gets somehow put in an armlock and tossed by a Hand henchman. It’s all over the place.
My second gripe is that for the sake of plot they made the heroes completely illogical either through their stifling morality or lack of foresight. OK Luke, it’s one thing if your just disabling low level thugs and pushers in your neighborhood, it’s another when you have a Hand leader in your grasp and you just toss him so he recovers and then does his ninja poof into the shadows. Like you saw Bakuto slash Colleen and you just disable him and toss him aside so he regroups with his men and disappear? Like you couldn’t break his wrist or better yet, all his appendages? He wouldn’t be dead but he would’ve been out for the count and Misty Knight wouldn’t have lost her arm (and yes I know she’s supposed to get a cybernetic one). It’s funny that with all the preaching against killing enemies the characters that made the most progress against The Hand were the side characters who actually killed their enemies- Stick and Colleen. The secondary/tertiary characters sometimes felt forced into the spotlight just to be there; for instance, Rosario Dawson’s character definitely didn’t need to be in Midland Circle using Tae bo to defeat highly trained Hand operatives. I get their importance in their respective series, but in The Defenders they often felt intrusive and only there because the actors had a contractual obligation to be there.
Danny Rand continues to be a source of contention for me. The show seems to be pretty self aware of this with even the Hand leaders calling him the “stupidest Iron Fist” and his own mates chastising his childishness. His choreography at least improved and the Iron fist itself seems buffed, but it means little when the character himself is unlikeable.
BTW, was I the only one that could only find files with hardcoded subtitles? Every time the Japanese dude had said something, I could only deduce what was said due to the other characters’ responses. lol “Nani?”
All in all, this just makes me want to watch The Punisher even more. If the show has all the brutality that the character is known for with a solid plot, it might trump all other Netflix Marvel series. I’m up for something with a little more edge.
So, i’ll give my two cents. In the pages before, i did say “this shit is good” which it was… but i was really expecting things to go up soon and did not know that EP8 was the last (i don’t check the episode lists, and just let the shit run)…
It’s a good 7/10 for me in total. I thought EP4 was good and it was awesome to see them fighting in the hallway with Elektra going all Nemesis like in the back. I thought Elektra’s character in this series was the most interesting one and she was just smoking hot in that get up.
So here are some flaws that i will give out (yes, spoiler alert).
Jessica Jones needed a better script writer because she sounded bored in every episode… it was getting annoying how she would roll her eyes after every dialogue scene and just reply like Daria.
Cage looked like they didn’t know what to do with him other than make him the typical black man bodyguard guy who is the nicest guy in the group and almost always jobs. It’s like the only thing he had in his resume is that he managed to fuck 3 of the women standing in the same room (Misty, Jessica, Rasario Dawson).
Daredevil got on my nerves the most because of his bitch clingy ass. “She’s gone man… move on…” “no i can save her”. That was just annoying.
Fist had some corny dialogues. “We are supposed to be together… we need each other” and all of his anger expressions were some of the most forced/shit acting i’ve seen on a Netflix show.
There was also some sudden season changes that i noticed. Around ep 1 (or 2), you can see that it is Fall in Harlem yet when Jessica and Matt were walking to visit the architects daughter, you can see snow around the area… note: this whole season is just 1 week in their universe.
I was also disappointed that the Punisher didn’t make it, because the trailer made me anticipate him. I thought he would eventually make an appearance and just shoot the shit out of the Hand or something. But no… Elektra just suddenly leads the entire Hand… made no sense.
Overall, it was still good… there was some great moments and i just love the concept of the team.
I got 2 eps left of the show. It feels weird kinda. Like it seems the show could function the same without Luke and Jessica, but maybe its because they dont have any involvement with the Hand?
And Luke is still boring AF, i couldnt even finish his show. But maybe my opinion will change.
Also in the comics, is being Iron Fist all their is to Danny’s character? They make it come off that way in the MCU, its not really a flaw imo since thats what he was raised to do but just wondering
Danny embraces his billionaire side and is much more of a shit talker, akin to Hawkeye or Spidey. From what I understand he uses his wealth to compete with Stark.
He is still generally torn between K’un L’un and the rest of the world, but that’s not all his character is.
Netflix seriously needs to move more to the comics and give us Luke x Jess and Danny x Misty. We need the bromance stat, because current Danny is insufferably edgy.
They do not need to go into the comic romances just because. I honestly like Luke and Jessica as friends much more in the show than lovers. The majority of characters in the MNU are different than their comic versions as it is, so pigeonholing them into their comic romances isn’t worth it at the moment.
It seems to work for the netflix show because him being paired with Misty in the Netflix MCU seems like a mismatch.
Danny: I am the guardian of Kun Lun. I only know missionary style.
Misty: Nigga, for someone raised in Kun Lun, you dont know your way around a cunt
Danny: I am the immortal Iron fist
Misty: Then suck on my tittays or something shit
Danny: The monks in Kun Lun only allowed me one glass of milk a day. Forgive me.
Misty: Whatever. you want a bj?
Danny: Yes I am sworn enemy of the Hand (skeets in 2 seconds)
Misty: WTF? How long before you can get it up?
Danny: It takes several hours for me to recharge my chi.
Misty: Um ok. Ive gotta go back to the precinct now (I wonder what Luke’s up to?)
At Chikara Dojo…
Colleen: Me so horny me luv you long time because you are rich and white.
Danny: Now I have truly ascended to a higher plane.
Lmao, tbh with the whole colleen thing I got that she was only interested in him sexually when she found out he was rich, so well played to Marvel for getting that sterotype in. @dab00g.
I finished Defenders it was cool. Idk it didn’t feel feel cohesive or anything but it was entertaining. Felt like an Iron Fist show though, which i guess makes sense.
Yeah tbh idk how to judge the show, it was fun. But it was all over the place but didn’t seem like a mess. That’s about all I can say really. But interested in in seeing more MCU Netflix stuff, specifically more Daredevil and Jessica
I just typed The Flash Patty in Google. I didn’t know her name off the top. I just remember cats in The Flash thread watching Shooter because she was on it. LMAO