Marvel's Netflix Universe: Return of the Kingpin

Monks that train people to be weapons. The Thunderer was telling Danny that grief and love is not suited for a immortal weapon. He wanted Danny to kill the Hand’s top assassin over saving a girl’s life. When Davos was going to snap at Claire he immediately sealed his emotions. They don’t deal with emotions at all.

these monks believe in controlling chi no way they would just be like yeah bottle ur emotions n ur all good lol. weak

They want their Iron Fist not to have them at all. Danny obviously didn’t have any outlet to keep his anger in check.

They want them to kill their emotions, not bottle em.

Ya. Even the main dude from ninja assassin Jung Ji-Hoon spent like 8 hour days for 8 months training to make those fight scenes look dope. He aint never did no shit like that before. Wachowskis just loved him fro speed racer, and were like, yo do this movie too.

For iron fist, probably couldve gotten homeboy to decent in 5 months, but clearly we’re seeing like the most fuck you we spent no time physically training this dude, or getting a good martial arts choreographer moment in marvel netflix history so far.

A show whose entire purpose is to give us a white donnie yuen with a magic fist, gave us fucking screech pretending to fight.

Finished watching the whole thing.
For an entire season that sets up his origin and place in the Netflix MCU, this is the weakest entry yet imo.

Episodes got bogged down with mundane scenes and throwaway lines I can’t help but laugh. Fight choreography was laughable since an immortal weapon is supposed to have a really good grasp of multiple disciplines for both offense and defense.

My biggest gripe was that K’un l’un was nowhere to be found, they just keep mentioning it and a few fake out scenes scattered. All that exposition about Danny’s parents and how he’s handling it was so dragged out it was excruciating. Defenders needs to be full out better than this when it arrives.

nigga…these monks live in an interdimensional plane of existence and were founded by fucking aliens that look like dragons. they gonna have some issues.

marvel with better planning could have make iron fist better. when danny was doin his form and i saw no definiton in his back…i cried. i need to get that nigga on the mcu workout. marvel clearly has a schedule and wanted to keep it. im not even gonna blame the writers or stunt team…this is higher ups that fucked up in the end. its still enjoyable enough that i could sit through it. i never felt i wanted to quit but its def a meh show compared to the others.

AND HE HAS MELTED EARS

This fight scene apparently took up 65 cut scenes


Yea that sucked to watch…so many cuts for 2 minutes of footage smh.

IF shouldve been able to feel his negative chi

how is it that im not even a pro writer and i could write a better IF story than the crap we got

Wow, I noticed a lot of cuts in that scene, but didn’t know it was that many. Hmm.

I was wondering something:

Goodwin says there at around 20:40 that you could watch the first and last episode back-to-back and miss nothing. I feel that’s a bit harsh, but I had to think on it for a while before I judged that it was a bit harsh. Do any of you agree with that? You could have watched just the first and last episode (and maybe a couple in between) and missed nothing worthwhile?

BTW, yes, that’s the old spill.com crew, in case anyone’s wondering. This is their new thing, and I highly recommend subbing to them on YT.

I don’t agree with it at all. For one, Ward received the most character development in the whole show. By the end of it he is completely unrecognizable from where he started.

Complete horseshit.
If anything Finn went too deep into the source material.
Danny is notoriously directionless unless he’s in combat.
His heart is in the right place, but his direction is always all over the place.

Not sure how much familiarity these reviews have with said material, but if you don’t know the character, maybe do a little research.

hoo boy. you posted some pages from the immortal iron fist which was matt fraction’s attempt at broadening the iron fist mythos but that’s not the best characterization of danny rand by far. he’s better fleshed out in the power man and iron fist team up books than anywhere else imo.

is that kaare andrews art? i still gotta read that book just for him. i will always have a soft spot for kaare.

also that review did a pretty good job at saying what i wanted to more eloquently. trinity/gao/claire are the best parts of the season, everything feels low budget (especially those flashbacks) and it doesnt really feel on purpose. the dialogue is shit, and the one thing that makes iron fist interesting isnt even portrayed properly. the dude is supposed to have the iron fist and be an immortal weapon but he barely uses it and when he does its for like one punch here and there or to break a door or something. YES i understand he didnt master it but he comes off as not even having used it at all, he never does anything amazing with it like luke/matt do with their powers, so when danny cant access the fist later, it means nothing, because hes only meh with it to begin with. contrast this with something like matt losing his extra-sensory powers for a few episodes in season 1 of daredevil, that wouldve been a big deal.

Yeah except…

http://superherouniverse.com/wiki/Iron_Fist/index.html#Publication_history

can we talk about how davos made ninja stars outta dinner left overs. i need more of that.

Which team up books? The latest Power Man and Iron Fist book treats Danny like a tagalong kid.

davos was a real nibba for sure, i actually sympathized with him (til that awful last scene)