Anybody From Ny?
I’m Trying To Start A Tournament…right Here @ Cf
Iron Man and Magneto are Top Tiers right?
Wha???
Last I remember, I thought Spiderman was #1 and Capt. America was #2 as the best characters in Marvel Super Heroes.
Also, Wolverine Master, if your looking to start a tournament, threads in the wrong place.
This is the only game Magnus is shit tier in.
I’ve only played this game casually, so please don’t yell at me if this question is dumb. Anyhow, is it possible to combo Hulk’s super in this game?
Of course. Odd side note: The initial headbutt is MUCH stronger than the moonchunk. Weird but true.
Some friends and I actually netplay this occasionally! Granted we suck and haven’t even tried to learn the combos and everything. I love this game! Gems make things interesting and the pace is just right!
I heard Ironman was top because he has some fly-on-fly-off combo or something like that.
Also how does Blackheart stack up with his annoying zoning?
The tiers are pretty much all over the place. Some say Ironman and Wolvie. Others say Spidey and Cap. Others still put Juggy really high because of obscene damage potential off a jab.
Lows are probably Hulk and Mags. Hulk has NO super armor and has to rely on punishing and trading just to hit most of the cast. Mags has no air dashing in this version yet he does in the Saturn version. That means he has virtually no mixup what so ever outside of tick grabbing.
Blackheart is somewhere in highmid. He has infinites and multiple infernos with different properties but he’s slow and tall meanig if Wolvie gets in, it’s gonna be a combo video.
I forgot how much I loved this game. It would be wonderful if it somehow came back and became a tourney game. The pacing is great and its complex and simplicity is really well balanced.
Since it’s probably had tourneys before what is the policy on Gems for a tournament? I’d imagine they’d be off like items in Smash. I think they really add to it, though.
Honestly, if anyone plays this with gems off citing that it unbalances the game in any way, they need to stop playing fighting games. The gems actually give shitty characters like Mags a chance against Wolvie.
Anything that was in the arcade version of a game needs to be taken seriously for any tournament held in said game.
Smash has no such version so it can’t be taken seriously to that effect.
I think people oppose the gems because they are a random element. It’s hard to control who gets gems in the game. Situations can come up where a less skilled player can beat a more skilled player because he got lucky enough to catch more gems then the other guy. You want to exclude as much randomness and lucky chances in a competitive game because competitive games are a tests of skill and not luck.
A expert should possess enough skill to take the gems from a noob or deal with a gem drunken noob. And honestly,if you play this enough,you’ll know exactly WHEN a gem will appear and how to get it.
Smash,on the other hand, has hundreds of different items that range from garbage to plain broken. MSH’s gems, most of the time, depend on what character has the gem and how that player makes use of it. A noob doesn’t have a game plan most of the time and while in possession of a gem, will be careless.
BH jump back fierce is retarded. except against shuma/wolvie whom you need really well placed shorts to deal with
Funny, I play this quite a bit online against somebody who is much better than me and let me tell ya gems never let me random out a win.
Ever.
May you just suck… (joking).
Still, gems are random and they can cause you to win or lose matches. What if you are playing a very close match, you and your opponent are evenly matched and you just barely lose because the other guy lucked out and got a gem?
You can’t control when the gems appear or which gems appear. Gems can be a definite factor in determining a winner. Why would you want a bit of random luck to interfere in a match?
During casual play it doesn’t matter, but you wouldn’t want that in a tourney setting.
We all know you can’t CONTROL when or what gems come out. You can, however, KNOW certain times when gems will come out. First attack and danger are the most evident. Also, why not just jump away? Most gems require you to be hit to take advantage of it’s properties. What ass would try to fight a Spaced out Juggs?
Another factor is the time limit allowed on the gems themselves. Jump away if you don’t have solution to a gem’s actvation and waste they’re time.
And in most cases,they can be hit right after the power up phase meaning Jugg and Psy players get a free 50% life chunk from them if they have spare meter.
Here’s the old thread:
Old MSH thread
Read Spider-Dan’s posts, especially if you’re interested in tiers and lots of gem info.
Someone trying to throw him to get some damage in :arazz:
Hitting him (and Mag’s shield) makes the time run out faster too, doesn’t it?
And eat a double Head Crush? Think about what you’re saying here man.
this game is awesome
everyone forgets about shuma being top tier. his only bad matchup is blackheart imo.
top:
spidey, shuma, wolvie, cap
mid:
juggs, bh, im
low:
mags, psy, hulk
spidey > wolvie, im, low tiers
shuma > juggs
cap > everyone except bh
wolvie > bh, low tiers
imo, i think shuma and juggs makes the best usage out of their gems. shuma’s drain + soul gem recovers shitloads of meter. having another meter after activating chaos dimension is also nice.
juggs has gem activation into super. ggpo if it was the power gem. speed gems boosts his slow ass, which is always helpful. mind gem helps him get meter quick since he builds it slowly. everyone knows what his space gem does. almost complete invulnerability except to some throws.