i think everyone in mvc2 are good if you play them right, specially with the right assits buddies. some characters just require less effort is all thus why those characters are used more.
people who don’t learn and complain about imba are scrubs to me.
or should i say don’t truly try to play and learn?
Less effort? I don’t think so man.
If you put the same time and effort in storm as you do in Ryu, you’ll win more with Storm.
Character rankings assume both players are of the same skill level. If you put more effort in learning the game than your opponent, than the tiers you two would come up with would be flawed.
@Banshee, what you said sounds good, and I agree with you Storm can beat Ryu better. I’m just saying someone like the Ryu player will have to try harder than the Storm player because of their characters abilities besides their own.
but ya i agree with you.
umm which is exactly what was said. storm requires less effort to win more/easier… : /
think of all the buttons you have to press for mag/storm! and sent has to fly/unfly so many times, i think that takes the most effort to play well with. scrubs can’t start off with storm/mag, they stick with ryu, guile, characters that require less effort.
that’s just what i think. with all the tri jumping, dashing around, ROM, sent fly/unfly, i couldn’t have done that in the beginning because it takes a lot of effort. i could do a shoryuken since street fighter II.
but all that’s up to a saturation point, which once is passed, the potential (and tiers) of the characters makes a difference, but that’s still at a pretty high level of play.
well all those “button presses” are just at a higher level of play.
scrubs/noobs could play the top four with much less effort and win more. hail, hsf, ahvb and all the other things. Trust me, higher tiers require less effort to compete with lower tiers. you don’t need inf.'s resets and whatnots at low levels of play or to beat shoto’s. understand?
marvel is a fun game, let’s all agree to that. newbs, scrubs, pros, champs, leets
CapCom on point is the man. Add drones or Storm PA and you can beast.
Cap/IronMan/Hulk = better than you think
what one player does with low tiers does not define their placement. a perfectly played wolverine will still lose to a perfectly played sentinel most of the time. out of the tools that each character has, the tiers are defined, not “who plays them” or “this or that scenario”.
the game is not that much more inbalanced than a lot of other fighters… wasn’t one of the guilty gears a sol and eddie show? third strike sees the same three characters all day, and then sometimes you see three others, dudley, makoto, and urien. that’s what, six out of nineteen? just under a third of the cast used, which is not that far off from marvel, with 14/56. i do count the characters that are only used for assists, because at least they’re used. also, tekken 5.0 was a nina / steve show… so i wish people would stop making it sound as though marvel is a magneto / sentinel show.
I agree. This one thing in particular that annoys me is when someone states in defense of a character, “J.Wong plays him”.
So what? From what i hear Justin Wong is a cut above the rest, in that he can take characters like dan that most players would never dare to use in a tournament setting, and somehow make him work well. That however, does not mean Dan should jump up a few tier-levels.
justin wong ocv’d me with hulk / silversamurai / collosus.
Hulk’s low tier, but Samurai & Colossus are pretty good.
he beat me with only hulk. didn’t even use assists… i couldn’t get a hit on him, no matter what i did.
I’ve seen Zaza do some good against MikeZ in a few casual videos with MM/Hulk/Cyke. I’m pretty sure MikeZ show cased a few 100% with Storm/Hulk in his combo videos.
and this is exactly what i was saying about how well a certain player does has no effect on the tiers.
bwuhbwuhbwuhbwuh!
Hulk + wavedash = BEASTLY.
How exactly did the match go? What team did you pick and how did he fight it?
the only character i would be surprised that would actually win is roll.
Honestly, Marvel has very little TERRIBLE characters in it. I find most (about 98%) of the cast at least decent.
OK, i was running MSP… begining of the match, i snap colossus out for hulk, thinking that his colossus might be easier without any assists… i guard break hulk, fuck up the rom, and that was the last hit i got…
no matter what i did to tri-jump, he blocked EVERYTHING, teched EVERY THROW. it’s almost like he read me like a book. a friend of mine, remix1213, told me to beat wong you must define “random”.
anyway, after he blocked about six different attacks in under 2 seconds, he does some random ass air combo that makes him swap places with me, so i’m in the corner now. he does another combo, resets, bye bye magneto… guard breaks storm with some late jumping attack, i get hit with the meteor crush… i’m tri jumping him now, and nothing… so i’m just doing hailstorms now, keeping away and whatnot… i have no meter, he has about 45% life, and i’m running to build some… i crossed him up to try to get an hp>hk on him, because i can finish his hulk from here if i get a good clean jumping hp. as soon as i cross him up, i’m about to go in, so i switched stick directions… no sooner than i switched, i get hit with another meteor… bye bye storm… psylocke comes in, and i’m doing some random u+hk shit and instant overheads with that, trying to get a hit, attempting throws… nothing… i chip him a little with a random qcf+pp, and he pushblock cancels out and i get thrown… at this point, i’m just so frustrated, that i’m going all offensive just to kill his hulk, and through my frustration, i didn’t block anything… thus i lost.
Have You Not Been Reading World War Hulk!? You Should Have Known!..
…You know, this game is more defense than anything. And, gay chipping traps aside, any character can win with a good defense. Hmm.