Marvel... Not Marvel vs Capcom 2... Marvel!

So I’m in two minds about MvC2 when concerning balance in this game. The way I think of it, you have not got one game, as it’s title indicates, but two games created by Capcom’s stupidity… On one hand you have Marvel vs Capcom 2 which is totally unbalanced. Out of 54 characters, 42 aren’t really played at all. It’s not just that they don’t get played though, they actually suck beyond comprehension too. Such a waste of creativity… On the other hand, you have Marvel which is totally balanced. 12 characters out of 54 dominate the cast, but can get raped just as hard as they can give by their fellow top tier teams. As long as your team dynamics and level of play are up to standard, you have pretty much an even chance of survival.

So what are your opinions on this? Personally I think it leaves room for a lot more debate about whether the game is actually broken or not. What actually is Marvel vs Capcom 2? Is it the game we’ve known for past years? Or is it a waste of great potential on Capcom’s behalf? Personally I can’t decide whether the game is broken or not because I don’t know what I’m even looking at…

Discuss…

This is a stupid thread.

“head chest balls” will solve your problem. :\

What I’m suprised at his how balanced a severely broken game can be. I can’t argue that there’s generally top tier circles in games that creates that balance at the top, but in MvC2 it seems to go a lot further. Even the top four are kind of insignificant because of team dynamics. Just with the length of time Marvel has been getting played I find it amazing how balanced the game still is. Even though the majority of the cast don’t get played and some characters are naturally more dominant, the strategies within the top tier can still be countered.

I guess what I’m asking is, what are your opinions on the balance issues within and out of the most used characters?

It is more like 56 characters with only about 7-8 ever getting played in comps.

I don’t count characters that only seem to get used for 1 trait and nothing more(Assists!) like capcom and t-bone.

the game let’s u play in teams, as far as balance goes, you should be able to come up with an answer to your situation based on the fact that you have 3 characters that can be put on point, plus 2 assist for each character, giving you 9 duos on one team.

i think the game is balanced, it just has a big learning curve.

Those 42 characters that "suck beyond comprehension " don’t really suck. They’re just harder to learn to play with.

But then how about this.

Someone manages to use low tier characters and come up with a fresh trap, then I’m sure that specific team would be considred good for a while until someone finds a way to defeat that trap. eg = zaza’s wolverine and gambit trap. :o you gotta watch that crazy video of zaza’s.

:smiley:

Seriously, if someone “mysteriously” knows a way to use Ryu so that he can compete on a high lvl in MvC2, my ears are listening. As for Demon Dash’s question, you are true, if your just counting with the top characters that do recieve play, it’s quite balanced, everyone can pretty much pick apart everyone, however imo it comes down to teams, I mean, I love team MSP(I will never change), however they don’t do nearly as solid as Santhrax overall.

MvC2 is balanced if we look at it from that perspective, fucken love this game.

MVC2 is definitely not balanced at all, which is putting it nicely.

Just by the way nearly all of the capcom cast is severely underpowered, compared to the marvel side. Like capcom put all their effort into the marvel cast, and got lazy with the rest.

Charlie for example: Realistically by MVC2 standards, he should be able to throw out sets of 3 sonic booms normally all the time, and without having to charge for them. With his supers being a lot more advanced, air supers too, no charging for flash kicks either, etc.

Even then Charlie would still have a hard time with the likes of Cable and storm, at least his abilities would be a lot closer to specs with the marvel cast.

mvc2 is not balanced, fact, but it has a good variety of teams.

a good shoto team
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I saw that awhile back, it still has not convinced me anything.

well, this game’s name should be “godtiers vs marvel&capcom”

true grave are you retarded? Although Marvel’s ast overpowers most of Capcom (key word most) there are still some decent Capcom chars: (Dhalsim, Anakaris, Ken, Strider, Guile).

And your points about Charlie make no sense, who cares how they set the motion for his moves, Anakaris’ are ten times wiereder, ( HK, LP, LK+Down, HP) is a harder motion, and some of his motions for moves like Snake Attack interfere with Mummy Hands. But that doesn’t determine how good the character is.
Charlie sux neway.

ken and guile are too beginner friendly to be considered good.

Which is why I stated the keywords: “nearly all” when referring to underpowered Capcom characters.

Nearly All, does not equal= All.

My points about Charlie make perfect sense. How many Top-tiers or Solid Mid-tiers in the game need charging for their moves? Very few if any.

Also the Sonic boom, is like tossing a pebble against a char with stuff like lasers and uni-beams. By Marvel standards, Charlie should have had a lot more advanced projectiles to make use of.

He is certainly Low-tier, but can definitly kick ass in the right hands. If you can’t figure out how to make use of him, it is because YOU suck, and not Charlie.

Wow, if you think his projectile is that useless, you are not a charlie player in MVC2 (and I know a few).

I love how this game has been out forever, and True Grave now wants it to be a balanced 54 char roster (with charlie in the upper mid tier right?).

You sound pretty scrubby, I’m not going to lie.

Wrong, Indeed I am a Charlie player, and his projectile definitly has it uses(slow booms). He can’t exactly trade in a firefight with the marvel characters however, which was my point with my analogy of the pebble.

Please take the time to read my posts properly. I never said I wanted it to suddenly be balanced, I was just explaining how it is Not balanced, and just using charlie as one of the examples of the Capcom cast who are underpowered.

Not being able to comprehend well? Thats a scrubby trait, I’m not going to lie.

Or being able to comprehend well, but pretending to interpret posts wrong to suit an argument? Equally as scrubby.

I also make it a point not to argue with scrubs for long, I have better ways to waste my time than that, so I’m done with you here.

~later yo :wonder:

ill 1v1 your charlie vs my anakaris, and we will see who sucks, no assists, just pure 1v1. Actually, My assists suk for that matter ( Omega anti-air, Samurai launcher), but you can use whatever assist you want, and I will still own your Charlie.

Would not waste my time, nor have I ever challenged you and you’re scrubby anakaris either, so save your breath.

Complaining is scrubby. No way around it.