Details about characters on the S.H.I.E.L.D. TV show emerge. So far no one from comics.
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Captain is still a complete D-Bag at the end i see with that low blow about Xaivier… And Magneto gets balmed for stuff despite turning against Scott to and trying to help the Avengers? That’s some ole bullshit, don’t blame him and Emma running at the end seeing how Cap would try to get them on some bullshit.
Came here to post the IGN article about this - pretty much the same thing though.
I’m kinda glad there’s no one from the comics yet. Gives them a lot more freedom (hopefully) for original stories and such.
And don’t forget, Harley Quinn was an original character and look how that turned out.
My only concern is that they seem a bit… archetypical. Reading Althea’s short bio instantly made me think of Vasquez from Aliens.
Fairly good read concerning combining FOX’s Marvel properties into a single universe:
5 Females up for role in Captain America 2: The Winter Soldier - Possible Sharon Carter?
Another good week for ASM. The way they showed Spider-Man’s amped up Spider-Sense reacting to EVERYTHING was priceless. 
AvX sucked as expected but at least they gave us some explanation who Hope is. Eh just bring on the Hickman Avengers books already.
I think the AvX Versus was more entertaining than the main book. The fights were too short and had no real consequences and a lot of the outcomes were predictable. However the artwork, funny intros and narration made up for a lot. Issue 6 had some extra gag versus matches that were pretty cute too.
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Tell me about it. The last thing I wanted to read was
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Captain America giving Cyclops a stern talking to and then Beast continuing to be a prick.
And yea, I only read AvX Versus #1 & #6. The other matchups were either uninteresting to me or just a plain waste of money as there was no way there gonna have certain characters lose. Of what I did read, Mags vs. Ironman was pretty awesome.
From IGN commenters regarding AvX:
[details=Spoiler]Bulletpoints of this whole mini-series:
-Cyclops wants hope to get Phoenix
-Avengers try to kill hope so she doesn’t get Phoenix
-Hope almost gets Phoenix, but Avengers do something to mess it up and cause the Phoenix Five
-Phoenix Five start doing wonderful things for the world
-Avengers don’t think the Five should do these things and attack them
-Provoked the Five go after the Avengers
-“Namor” goes goes crazy, not others yet
-even though Namor was the only one who really did anything wrong it now unites the rest of the xmen with the avengers
-trying to basically kill the other four they give more power to Cyclops who still has it somewhat together till the Xavier attack
-cyclops goes Dark Phoenix and gets defeated and Hope receives the Phoenix just like Cyclops wanted
-the Five are now completely blamed for their actions even though it is nearly impossible to control the power of the Phoenix, even though the only reason they had the power was because of the Avengers
-Mutants are back because Hope received the Phoenix and made the right choice just like Cyclops thought she would
-Cyclops is locked away by Captain America even though he was under the influence of the Phoenix because of Cap
-cap acts like Cyclops is a horrible villain
I mean no Avenger has ever killed someone while under the influence of someone’s control.
Oh wait Bucky was an assassin for 50 years and that was all fine and dandy by Cap
This is absurd that Cyclops is looked at as a villain and Captain America is a sanctimonious a$$hole!![/details]
[details=Spoiler]For shame, Marvel. This is how you pay off years and years of X-Men comics? From House of M to Messiah Complex, to see Scott Summers develop so much, make so many hard choices and sacrifices and step up as the leader mutants need, all of that was to build up to this? The Avengers vilified him from the start and fought him until he became one. Yes, Cyclops was right from the start and Tony 'Too Smart for Everything" Stark who, as he states in the last issue, worked all the variables but was too stupid or too vein to not work the one where he doesn’t get involved and everything works out fine, nice job Tony! And to say Hope wouldn’t have been ready is ridiculous, when some of the greatest and strongest mutants who have trained for years can’t handle the phoenix force, I don’t think giving Hope a few weeks with Iron Fist is gonna make that much of a difference. What makes it even more sad is the Avengers didn’t grow or change or anything, this wasn’t payoff to years of Avengers stories, from their point of view, this was just another save the world story. Just like Cap says in issue #12, it’s what they do.
In closing I would like to remind Mr. Summers that he’s going to be just fine, just last year a bunch of people were possessed by hammers and no one’s mad at them anymore, oh and no one’s mad at the Winter Soldier, Scarlett Witch or Daredevil either so you should be just fine. I’m just sorry that years of faith and great characterization paid off where no one listened to you and you were right, you tried to fix the world and they fought you for it and in the end imprisoned like an animal for crimes you can’t really remember, yet still take full responsibility for that quite possibly would have never happened had the very people holding you captive not interfered.
I can’t wait to hear Cap telling Black “ledger full of red” Widow and Bucky “freaking Russian Assassin” Barnes why he’s so mad at Scott for something he did while brainwashed, oh wait wrong people, I mean possessed.[/details]
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In the end you feel bad for Cyclops. I really did enjoy him in the story. Steve pretty much reminds me of what Tony did during the Civil War.
This whole year in marvel has been stupid, the only comics that did not get dumb are the ones these crossovers did not spill into… as for x titles xforce and astonishing xmen and x-men title never really got sucked n. avengers, new avengers uncanny xmen all several months of trash, alot of characters ruined. only bonus is to see what all the new comics teams will be and if some of the old guard will move out the way for new chars like surge and x23 and dust and a few others…same for avengers with avengers academy endng
I won’t say Cyclops was right, but like everyone else has stated, the Avengers were bullies through most of this event. Seems like Marvel is just pretty much trying to say “THE AVENGERS ARE ALWAYS RIGHT, PERIOD!” Cap was thick headed, and Cyke was just a little too “It’ll work this time, it’ll work this time.” with the Phoenix. But hey, none of the new xbooks have my attention anyway, I’m just waitin for Waids Hulk.
Well Cyclops was right - given the ending that’s not even a debatable point. However, they did a horrible job of making him the bad guy - even if it was a Magneto-style “by any means necessary for the good of mutants” bad guy. That’s my biggest issue. It makes everything else in this event fall apart. They want us to look at Cyclops as misguided and losing his way, but the entire series he’s one of the few not coming off as a complete jerk and actually making sense. The entire series was Marvel telling us, “Ok Cyclops is the bad guy” and I’m like, “Ok… can you make it more believable b/c that doesn’t make a lick of sense given what you’ve written.” That’s why this event fell short, their antagonist for the story was only the antagonist b/c they told you he was - not b/c of anything he did in the story (up to a certain point - avoiding spoilers for those who are behind) for you to come to that conclusion on your own.
They messed up when
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Cap brought the Avengers to Utopia demanding Hope turned over into their custody. Had they had even one page of he and Cyclops meeting and discussing the approaching Phoenix and Cyclops taking his Magneto-like stance, this entire event could’ve made much more sense.
Captain America who was supposed to be the lead hero in this series came off horrible and the end just capped it off. Am I really supposed to like this guy now?
I’ll chalk it all up to this series having multiple writers b/c it just doesn’t make any sense.
Positive Takeaway:
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Hope is an Iron Fist now. This allows her and the writers to be less dependent on her mimicry and build even more on her soldier background. She’s now not only a weapons expert, but one of the best hand-to-hand fighters in the MU.
AvX really fell apart after the Phoenix Five showed up, that really was a mis-step in so many ways.
I can’t really put this into words but the entire lure of the Phoenix loses it’s lore when you have a man become the Dark Phoenix. I really don’t see why we need yet another male ‘destroyer.’ We have Galactus and Thanos, it’s covered.
Both Cyclops and Captain America went out of character and the entire Mutant community turning against Cyclops after all he’s done was extremely out of character.
I remember when Civil War was out how people were saying Captain America and Iron Man were out of character but I really didn’t see it at the time and I think a lot of long time readers like myself didn’t see it either. Captain America has gone against the government several times. If you never thought that Iron Man had big time ‘jerk’ tendencies I wonder if you’ve ever read the character in your entire life. Hawkeye even punched the guy in the face in the 90s cartoon! THE PUNCH FELT AROUND THE WORLD.
It wasn’t even the first time Captain America and Iron Man disagreed and fought each other. Everything flowed out of the storyline and things that were already part of the Marvel Universe. It worked for me.
Maybe Spider-Man unmasking was really out of character, but at least in ASM they tried to show that he was backed into a corner. Also it gave us alot of unexplored territory stories in Spider-Man’s comics (particularly in Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man, PAD did the best with these circumstances). Too bad it was all a plan to lead us to that OMIT / OMD garbage but oh well, it’s not like new stories make it impossible to reread back issues.
Not the case this time with AvX. Sure, fiction is always going to simplify characters in one way or another when in actuality people in real life are never that simple. Still, if you don’t provide logical ways for characters to go from point a to point b (or at least have the material in said universe to back up the outcome) it’s fail.
Ah well it was a big event / excuse to bring on the Marvel Now! stuff anyway. Sadly I’m not excited about a lot of it. EXCEPT for Hickman on Avengers. Now everyone who wasn’t reading his Fantastic Four because lol it’s the Fantastic Four, or his S.H.I.E.L.D. books because … - I dunno you’re on drugs, or not on enough drugs - :looney: - can see what I’ve been talking about for the last few years! TO ME GALACTUS! :lovin:
Quick note about Jean Grey. I somewhat disagree with something said in the spoiler that was posted here before the comic dropped. It is up to interpretation I guess.
AvX #12
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The thing about Jean Grey, almost everyone says she’s ‘dead’ because it’s more conveniant, but in actuality she became one with the Phoenix Force. So it’s entirely possible that Cyclops did see Jean Grey within the Phoenix Force and it wasn’t a fever dream or something. What that means for Hope existence, if you can call her the daughter of the Phoenix Force and Jean Grey man I dunno since we only got a partial explanation, but I do think Cyclops really did see Jean Grey. She’s obviously not ‘back’ though.
^ Edited with spoiler tag. If you don’t want to give me a license to mess with your posts and write how I awesome I am please use them when talking about AvX #12’s outcome in any sort of detail. Thanks. 
You forget that the P5 was directly a result of the Avengers getting involved. The way the story is written, had the not gotten involved there never would’ve been a P5 and thus never a Dark Phoenix Cyclops.
Did you even read the series or just the Wikipedia summary? It’s sounding like the latter.
Deal w/ what? I actually think you’re trolling now. Everything boils down to the Avengers getting involved and mucking things up.
The writing still boils down to Marvel saying “Cyclops is the villain” and wanting us to just accept it instead of giving us reason to make the conclusion ourselves. If that worked on you - which apparently it has - then I have to call into question your ability to comprehend the difference between a story written well and one written poorly.
You want to take the route of calling someone a fanboy when you don’t even understand that the story was presented in horrible fashion and didn’t put over Cyclops as a villain well at all.
Will you guy still accept me if I said I’m only reading ultimate comics now?
My friend had me read Two Worlds Two Cities, and I’ve been hooked since. The Ultimates is fucking good every issue, I haven’t read a crossover event this good since, well, forever.
I haven’t fully jumped in to the UU just yet. Will probably start reading Ultimate X-Men and Spiderman soon.
Ultimate Spider-Man and Ultimates are great. Ultimate X-Men pacing is slow atm.
I didn’t know Cyclops had fanboys pretty much everyone hates him because hes a dick or hes a boy scout.
Brevoort talks about the AvX finale. Spoilers of course.
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Just read that Brevoort interview. The reasoning behind Magneto being on the run was very…stupid.