Marvel 101 (MvC2 ---> Newbies)

cable beats ironman sadly, he can runaway to well for any infinate or unfly combos to be useful. and if you PC he can AHVB and beat you to the draw, and ironman dies.

lol ironman is toptier hes 5th or 6th.

Juggz needs an assist to keep him getting rushed, and u need another charater to do the glitch and switch in with.

maybe storm/juggz/cyclops

also, doom and psylock might be good for cover or starting comboes

i use ironman…very well, but its still the truth

Yeah Iron Man is top-tier. Don’t see why War Machine is not up their too, as he has all the same infinites.

Which is the only reason the tournament types use IM to begin with, for his easy-bake-infinite combos.

WM is garbage.

IM has, infinite, infinite to corner then Proton Cannon them (which works good after scaling since it has a lot of hits), good assist.

WM is just a crappy version of IM. Start playing marvel and stop playing made up in your head marvel and you will see the obvious.

WM has slower normals and less comboability, and that shit really matters but in “low tier tournaments” you still have to ban warmachine

As someone who’ trying to get into the game this helped a lot.

epecially the magic series section.

Guile (the character I wanna play as) seems pretty combo-reliant

Baaaah Charlie owns guile!

Charlie= The O.G

his proton cannon’s not as reliable, he’s too slow to do some of ironman infinite setups, so that’s not as versatile, and his proton cannon isn’t frame kill.

juggs best assist is doom. haven’t you ever watched the mike z juggernaught tutorial?

:tup:

guile is reliant on anything he can do to deal damage. his anti air is good, his TK qcf+kk is a good finish to ground combos, and his ability to link supers from all of his normals helps a LOT. Guile’s very combo reliant though, because he can’t reset, so once you get the hit, you want to maximize damage. his resets are all throw reliant, so it’s much easier to get ouf of than charlie who can easily crossup with moonsault slash.

:tup: but war machine’s not “garbage”. He’s just not as good. Personally, I think that WM / IM is a good combination.

Yes having two characters that can infinite well would be good, like that one player whose name i forgot.

yea IM/WM/Sent is a good chip/lock down team we all know that

TG:there was a thread in the WM thread in which the details were explained about why IM>>>>WM. and people dont use characters because of their infinites, and place in tourneys. you still can’t grasp that can you? Iron man has the easiest infinite and almost never places and the best player (sent) has no infinites.

He doesn’t grasp a lot of things about marvel. points to TG’s Tron assist bitch thread

Wrong. Mags has an infinite, from what i’ve seen it is one of his best features setting up those snap-outs. There has not been a high-level tournament match around involving magneto, where the infinite did not somehow come into play.

BTW Julius Jackson, that was the guy i was thinking of who uses that IM/WM team and can go into an infinite with either one.

There also has not been one he has won either.

There are also 2 more above him that do not use infinites as their main game. You have failed to see the point he was trying to make, but this isn’t the first time.

I’ve said it once, if you are going to “help” on these forums you need to be informed and play real marvel, not the one in your head.

^^^beat me to it…

IM’s infinite may be easy to perform…but easy to start on a good player? umm NO…but that should be obvious

all you gotta do is mash psylocke

of course! I forgot :sweat: that’s why IM/psy is so good in tourneys…too easyyyyyy cheeeezzzyyyy

lol easy bake

edit: just incase some didn’t realize…that was sarcasm. don’t want newbies to think this!

haha AGAIN, how many “tournament types” you see placing with IM?

haha why do you even post you have NOTHING to provide in this board at all except your stupid scrub whining and bitching.

listen,his best feature is his flexibility, just about any situation you have your opponent in magneto can do something, his ROM infinite (which isnt even a real infinite), its not used to kill people, it CAN’T it just cant no matter how hard you scrubs bitch about it its fucking weak,try to do it till you get the spin out at 40-50 hits. the reason his rom infinite is so goddamn feared (usually mixed in with the NJ infinite for show) is because of the position it leaves people in. they’re in the air, and they’re in the dark about whats gonna happen next, Mag can stop wait for them to land and reset them, snap em out, jump up and grab them, do a dhc, etc. you name it mag can do it, and the thing is he can do it when he wants to, the opponent has to guess and be on their toes to catch whats gonna happen next and when. this is why magneto is feared, his ability to confuse and abuse the opponent, thats why his rom is seen so much, thats why you’ll hardly ever see his fly infinite or rainbow or slide infinite, not only does it not do enough damage (the rom doesnt either) but it doesn’t leave the opponent in the situation that the ROM does.magneto isnt the strongest character and takes damage like a bitch so he uses his mixups and speed to confuse and get damage in. show me a video where mags kills an entire team with only a rom, **stop whining because his mixup game is too much for you.

**aside from that as parry and beats have said, he gets far, but he still can get stomped out by non infinite characters…like the rest of the god tier.
i’ve played some of the best mags on the West Coast (fuck C. Schmidt :arazz::rofl:) so i know what im talking about when i say his mixup is what kills you not the rom, the rom is just a set up tool. go head and give me what ever theory you want or point to some random video to assure your dumbass self that you think you know whats going on, just stop posting your half baked scrub info and acting like its gold bricks.

nothing?
anyways im having trouble keeping track of unfly in matches, is there any pointers on remembering? or is it just

  • see cap.com assist
  • assume you have unfly

IM is godlike but theres only a handful of people that use him in tournament play cause hes too hard to use against lame/runaway which is what tourney is all about.