Mario Kart DS at EVO?!

[Autocrat1]

I can’t wait until Evo announces Raw vs. SmackDown 2006, TMNT Tournament Fighters, Cosmic Carnage, Shaq Fu, Kasumi Ninja and Advent Children as the other additions. That’s all I’m talking about goddammit.

[FMJaguar]

So have you guys finally given up on this community and decided to make a money-making venture out of Evo? Frankly, I wouldn’t blame you guys… but Mario Kart hardly seems like the direction to take this in.

Unless the other boxes are madden,halo, Final Fantasy, and WoW, it’s fairly safe to say that evo2k6 provides a lot more for fighters alone, and is more fighter centric than 2k5.

Take a fighting game tournament, add more fighters, and more in general, is it still any less of a fighting game tournament than it was originally?

Are any of you less of a fighting game player if you have a RPG in your ps2 right now?

[TheSix]

I can’t wait until Evo announces Raw vs. SmackDown 2006,

Ahh yes I forgot Raw vs Smackdown! EVO needs this game bad. My Undertaker + Ray Mysterio is too good. It’s a fighter, has online play, and a community…so there is no arguement. :tup:

[Rakukojin]

Ahh yes I forgot Raw vs Smackdown! EVO needs this game bad. My Undertaker + Ray Mysterio is too good. It’s a fighter, has online play, and a community…so there is no arguement. :tup:

I wouldn’t want to see that at EVO because I don’t consider it a fighting game, I consider it a sports game. That’s just my opinion though.

So who is actually planning on competing in Mario Kart DS at EVO?

[JAMMAR]

IMO SvR2k6 makes more sense than MK:DS, especially when it comes to genre and balance. Only problem I see is that matches could take long, perhaps a time limit could fix it? Then ban CAW’s and you’re done!

[Tantin]

add more fighters

Add more fighters? Isn’t this like… Impossible at this point?

2k6: Max of six fighters at this point, barring more 'surprises’
2k5: Tekken5/TTT/ST/3S/CvS2/MvC2/#R that’s seven.

[Superking]

The real question is, how are they going to get vids of MKDS?

[Autocrat1]

The real question is, how are they going to get vids of MKDS?

Podcasts?

[System_1]

Perhaps it reflects the American gaming scene in general, but I have to wonder if it accurately reflects the American fighting game scene – which is what I thought EVO was all about.

–Chris

What you don’t get since you have been here the whole time is that America does not have a fighting game scene. The only country in the world with a real fighting game scene is Japan.

[Dios_X]

How about some F-Zero?

this here is a awesome idea. both MK DS and Fzero have snaking, but with lack of items in f zero, its fuckin hectic like marvel, really fast and tense, and like i said before no items = more balanced? Items are disabled in smash bros melee for a reason, it takes off balance, and really doesnt show a players true skill, just pure luck. thats my opinion on it anyway.

Fzero > MK ?

[nf0x]

Either this is a joke, or necessary due to one of Evo’s new sponsors…

Agreed.

[System_1]

this here is a awesome idea. both MK DS and Fzero have snaking, but with lack of items in f zero, its fuckin hectic like marvel, really fast and tense, and like i said before no items = more balanced? Items are disabled in smash bros melee for a reason, it takes off balance, and really doesnt show a players true skill, just pure luck. thats my opinion on it anyway.

Fzero > MK ?

yes F-Zero is actually an ok snaking game, splitscreen is a headache though.

MK DS is broken to shit. it has so many problems that im starting to think this is a joke.

its on a handheld, how the hell can you monitor whats going on. how many policies will have to be developed to make sure people are actually playing each other i mean you could just swap dses with someone else and the could play for you. how will disconnects and power cuts be handled?

whats the format? 1vs1 or 8 man race or what?

Battle mode maybe?

the game is random, there are no tactics just have to hope you get a good item (red shell) hit the opponent and snake off into the distance.

its either a case of who can snake better , or who can wait in the back for good weapons and using them at the end.

GoGo Super NES SMK

[Taiki]

Uuuuuuuuugh.

Mario Kart DS?!

WHY!? It’s BROKEN and NOT a fighting game!

(Yeah, that’s a Me Too comment, but given how HORRIBLY BROKEN it is, I gotta say SOMETHIN’)

As far as the down turn in fighters… Most other genres are in the same kind of slump. Except in rare cases, most sporting games tend to be yearly updates of the previous(the exception here is Racing where new titles pop up all the time and updates to racing franchises aren’t as often as sports), and no one’s really making puzzle games anymore. All that’s really been poppin’ has been action/platformers and RPGs. But that’s really kind of been the case for god knows how long. It’s an entirely different discussion, so…

But as far as Evo being a fighting game only Event… That’s up to SRK and the guys who’re running it. If they want to alienate the hardcore fighting gamer fanbase by bringing in non-fighting games, that’s entirely fine. It’s thier event. Personally, I’m really worried that fighting games are going to become secondary to Evo as an event and thus even further killing the competetive force behind the scene.

(Of course, if that happens, there’s always giving the finger to Evo’s organizers and starting another tourney. With hookers. Booze. and blackjack.)

[Jaguarandine]

Entertaining this idea for a second, how will you prevent theft of the DSes or the games? Considering possible turnout for this, anything less than 12-16 systems would just move too slow and that’s a lot of systems to keep track of.

[TheSix]

I’d imagine anyone who wanted to play this would be bringing their own DS to begin with.

[Autocrat1]

Entertaining this idea for a second, how will you prevent theft of the DSes or the games? Considering possible turnout for this, anything less than 12-16 systems would just move too slow and that’s a lot of systems to keep track of.

I’m worried about the possible cheating that may occur for such a unique tourney addition.

“NIGGA STOLE MY WI!”

I wonder if Soul Calibur III is going to be one of the games, even though that’s broken and corrupted as hell…

[System_1]

The voice of another die-hard fighting game enthusiast cries out in the wilderness that is Nevada, RenoROB: I second your opinion.

As a NEO-GEO fan, I have to say that I did not (and still don’t) expect to see KOF or any other NEO-related title make the list of official EVO 2006 tournament titles. That being said, I also never expected to see a non-fighter as a tournament title at one of America’s premiere fighting game events.

I concur, except for the part about “MKDS [being] the shit” – I have never had an interest in racing games or the Mario franchise, so I have no experience with this game. But you raise a very valid point: is MKDS a game that appeals to the majority of EVO attendees? and does that level of appeal warrant its inclusion as an official tourney title? Providing wifi in the gaming area is a great idea, and could prove an effective way to gauge the popularity of MKDS among the EVO participants in order to decide the question of its inclusion in EVO 2007. But to seemingly pluck it from the aether and grant it tourney title status, apparently without researching the popularity of such a decision, strikes me as a little rash. If the EVO organizers have conducted research that has shown the tourney-worthiness of MKDS – or if, as some others have postulated, EVO has other reasons for including it – I’d be very interested to hear about what led to this surprising selection.

Again, not having an interest in MKDS or games like it, this news does not excite me the way it does you, Master Chibi. However, I must say it concerns me.

Since the mid-to-late-'90s, there has been a steady downturn in the production of fighting games. Rarer still are original/new fighting titles – more and more, it seems the only fighters that make it to release are those that are simply the latest sequel in a very popular series (SF, KOF, DOA, VF), or are based on an already-existing popular work (Hokuto no Ken, Spectral vs Generation). I (and I think, many others) saw the upswing of American fighting game tournament events like EVO as new life being breathed into the fighting game community. After all, if software developers see that the fighting game genre is undergoing something of a renaissance (in terms of popularity and player support), might they not be more inclined to consider producing more fighting games? and would such a thing not be of benefit to the community? In the business world, competition breeds innovation, after all.

That being said, I feel uneasy when I see EVO – in my opinion, one of the last bastions of the American fighting game community (along with the other large fighter tournies around the country) – begin to apparently slacken its previously steadfast support of the fighting genre by including a completely different type of game as one of its official tourney titles.

Seconded. Aren’t there other tournament events already in place for non-fighters like MKDS (and Halo, Quake, etc.)? Why should EVO want to be more like those tournaments? If all tournament events eventually cater to the same titles, would there be any real reason to choose one event over another? It seems to me that the fighter-centric nature of EVO (and other fighter tournaments) is what set it apart from other game tournament events.

While I would agree that the fighting game community will probably always be split on the issue of cab-tourney vs console-tourney, the one thing you could consistently count on them agreeing on: they all enjoy fighting games. Now some of them enjoy fighters almost exclusively, while others may have other game genres they enjoy and play just as frequently – but they all enjoy fighting games. That being said, it seems at least a little odd for a fighting game tournament event to take one of its limited number of tournament slots and bestow it upon a non-fighter. Granted, if that slot were given to a fighter, there would be attendees who didn’t care for that particular title and wouldn’t enter that tournament. But doesn’t it seem more likely that, with an audience of fighting game fans, more of them would be inclined to participate in a tourney for a fighting game than for a game in a completely different genre?

Given that we’ve seen the current and previous generation of consoles resulting in the development of a number of quality console-only fighters – and given the slow death that arcades seem to be undergoing in recent years – I would imagine that we’re likely to see more fighters developed as console-only titles than in years past. Especially once the the issue of lag in online fighting games is solved.

And as far as the delay from arcade release to console release goes, well, that’s always been the nature of arcade titles hasn’t it? In particular, arcade titles created by Japanese companies: the American branches of those companies can’t release their English-language console port of a title until a Japanese console port of that title already exists. And, with arcades dying off at a much slower rate in Japan than in the U.S., there will continue to be a delay between the Japanese arcade and console releases – after all, they want the arcade editions of their games to make as much money as possible before cutting into that with a console release.

And in cases where a Japanese console port exists but a U.S. port does not, EVO showed their willingness to run import console titles on modded PS2s with their Guilty Gear XX # RELOAD tournament (even though the U.S. Xbox port of the game had been available for nearly a year).

Perhaps it reflects the American gaming scene in general, but I have to wonder if it accurately reflects the American fighting game scene – which is what I thought EVO was all about.

–Chris

I hope the announcement was a joke for two reasons:

1- Boringggggg.

2- This guy will have wasted time writing this rant for nothing.

[starboy]

most of you guys are fags.

Mario Kart is included in the game list, if you don’t like it, too bad, don’t pay attention to it. I don’t know why most of you guys are acting all elitist just because you play fighting games and not other genres of games. quit crying, there is absolutely no reason to be crying.

[System_1]

most of you guys are fags.

Mario Kart is included in the game list, if you don’t like it, too bad, don’t pay attention to it. I don’t know why most of you guys are acting all elitist just because you play fighting games and not other genres of games. quit crying, there is absolutely no reason to be crying.

A lot of people said they’d boycott Evo if Slash didn’t make the lineup, what do you expect? People can be bitches sometimes, no one is immune. But when bitchiness becomes an epidemic, one has to wonder if it’s the bitches who are really being bitchy, or is it just the bitched-of?

It’s just that no one wants to see Evo turn into a general gaming fun-time play date, they want it to stay a hardcore fighting tournament. Rigging wifi’s and having a small MK tourny on the side would be cool, but if you start talking about bumping classics for mario crap, or branching too far off into irrelevent genres, there’s gonna be a problem.

[starboy]

A lot of people said they’d boycott Evo if Slash didn’t make the lineup, what do you expect? People can be bitches sometimes, no one is immune. But when bitchiness becomes an epidemic, one has to wonder if it’s the bitches who are really being bitchy, or is it just the bitched-of?

Yeah but #r vs. slash debate is a game that will affect the people on this board.

It’s just that no one wants to see Evo turn into a general gaming fun-time play date, they want it to stay a hardcore fighting tournament. Rigging wifi’s and having a small MK tourny on the side would be cool, but if you start talking about bumping classics for mario crap, or branching too far off into irrelevent genres, there’s gonna be a problem.

Any game that is 1 human vs 1 human isn’t irrelevent. SF/T5/MVC2/GGXX are just mediums in which person a can compete against person b. Mario kart is just a different type of medium. But i see where you are coming from. I just don’t understand why everyone is all mad that mario kart will be at evo(or might if it’s a joke…but the evo2k page is updated so i doubt it), especially with the fighting game scene being the way it is now(dying and only getting “deader”). It’s the same faces every year, this will bring new people in and expose them to our community. Who knows, they might actually start playing fighting games in the process…OH NOES! Not to mention this probably has something to do with sponsorships…so what…does everyone really wanna play on shitty borrowed TVs from random participants with a shortage of PS2s?