Man tells catcallers to cut it out, gets beaten for his trouble

Lmao alrighty then:)

Yeah…because requiring evidence to validate a claim is obviously just disingenuous idiocy. It isn’t like a serious crime isn’t be used as leverage to further some political agenda…clearly all those popular tweets and memes that went viral are no indication to what that hashtag was really about.

It’s unfortunate you fell back on this statistic as I’m quite aware of these popular "1 in 4 or 1 in 5"so called studies. For starters they all rely on self reporting and are surveys…and for those of you who don’t know self reporting is just a nicer way of saying “anecdotal.” They don’t align with the official crime statistics of sexual assault either mainly because of the massively flawed methodology. I could drone on about it but I’ll just direct you to christina hoff summers and her video which debunks these rape statistics.

At any rate what does any of this have to do with asserting that women are justified in assuming all men are creeps or in this case rapist…you realize even if this study was accurate it still wouldn’t justify such sexist profiling. This also doesn’t negate the fact that men still face a greater danger as they are the primary victims of street violence…so basically this was a useless post.

Edit: I didn’t see your newly included content so I’ll reply to that here.

"-1 IN FIVE. That’s 20% of women vs. 1 in 71 men (or 1 in 33 depending on who you ask) who will be raped.

-In 2013, the Census Bureau found that 50.8% of the US population of 316 million were women.

-If we’re to take the Times article at face value (and I used the calculator right), that’s over 32 million women that have been rape victims during the course of their lives.

-The article also says that of those surveyed, 1% had been raped in the last year which suggests a figure of 1.3 million according to the survey.

-Those were just the ones willing to talk about it. You know that whole “there’s nothing wrong, I’m fine” act a lot of women do? Well, I’m sure that extends to this topic. So 20% might actually even be a bit low, and this is ONLY rape we’re talking about, not any of the other behaviors.

-And just for the sake of comparison, let’s take your strawman about men being victims of violence. According to this: http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf even in the early 90s at the peak of their victimization, black men, the majority victims of violent crime were only being victimized at a rate of roughly 70 per 1000, which, while still not good, isn’t even 10%. And the numbers have reduced drastically since then.

Still think it’s all made up and that it’s just a bunch of angry sexist women? :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:"

It should be noted that men are technically excluded by the official definitions of rape. Rape by definition only considers victims of penetration but not envelopment, meaning a man who is forced to penetrate is by technical definition not a rape victim. If you adjust the figure of men who were made to penetrate, I believe if was something like 40% of men are rape victims according to the CDC.

Secondly the surveys and studies which you cite all rely on self reporting, there is no verification process. This is clearly a issue for obvious reasons, and to top it off a lot of these studies such as the popular "1 in 4"study, will often ask vague and misleading questions which aren’t exactly direct in their meaning. Bottom line, the studies are unreliable and very at odds with official crime statistics.

Lastly about men being victimized by violence, a simple search into which gender faces higher levels of mugging, assault and homicide are pretty conclusive…so again what point are you trying to make?

The people who should fear walking down the street are by statistical fact men considering they are far more likely to get beaten and killed. The only thing you provided we’re studies which essentially amounted to professional anecdotal evidence…and even then the existing definitions of rape exclude men so you just made your argument look even worse.

This seems less like a feminism/patriarchy issue and more of a “people are dick heads” issue.

I know what I’ve experienced, and you’ve yet to post anything but your toxic and clueless opinions while I’ve posted cold hard facts that put your uneducated assumptions to shame. Honestly dude, this conversation is beyond your experience. Just quit while you think you’re ahead. :coffee:

And you’re obviously SenninSRK. @Valaris‌ aren’t there rules against banned users creating new accounts to circumvent bans here on SRK?

I don’t think that SRK really gives a shit about that rule these days, with Seraph’s autistic ass still walking around after getting his alts banned a dozen times.

What facts?

The studies you linked even state they are surveys…am I missing something here?

You didn’t even bother to mention that the existing definition of rape excludes men who were raped by women…exactly what like of credibility are you hoping to find when you make such a blatant omission to half the population.

You also failed to address the fact that men are still the majority of those who experience street crimes at far higher quantities then women. I therefore ask you once again to explain how you justify your earlier proposition that women are in the right to consider all men potential rapist when the "cold hard facts"are at best flimsy surveys with no verification process. You want to rationalize sexist bigoted profiling of nearly half the population and will use nonsense like a"survey study"to validate it.

Honestly man if you just wanted a excuse to hate men at least be honest about it as opposed to these roundabout mental gymnastics.

Social Media Warriors love to turn things into something they’re not. It was a dude catcalling, which admittedly can be a dickhead thing to do then a white knight guy tried to come to the rescue and gets his jaw rocked for not keeping his mouth shut. this didn’t need any sort of coverage to be honest.

So much goal post moving in this thread that not even Germany could score a goal.

Is this a story about a whiteknight getting his ass beat?

It’s not even an issue of equality; those were just some street dudes hitting on ladies. This dude stepped to them and got worked.

The best conclusion I can come up with from this incident is that if you ever want to stand up to someone, make sure you can kick their ass too since they may be crazy. Enroll in your local muay thai school today

Would be hard scoring a soccer goal on a football goal post. :coffee:

@DoctaMario‌

I don’t want to derail this thread anymore so I’m going to just annihilate your so called evidence with the facts that you were too lazy to research.

[details=Spoiler]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lNsJ1DhqQ-s

http://youtu.be/cWjlVGEf9Js[/details]

For those too lazy to watch the videos I’ll give you the abridged version. The studies that reported the 1 in 5 figure collected the data by telephone surveys that asked vague questions relating to sexual assault. The respondents were not asked in simple straight forward ways if they had been raped, rather they were asked implicitly with the answers being inferred from the researchers. It’s worth noting that at no point in time did any of the researchers ever bother to verify the responses, meaning that the vaguely asked questions with interpreted conclusions did not go through any sort of rigorous verification process. To put this into context, imagine a telephone survey indirectly asking people if they ever had a UFO encounter. Then imagine the responses being collected at face value with no investigation to the respondents claims. Now imagine this "study"having the full endorsement of official government institutions…just like that we now have "evidence"that 1 in 5 people have had UFO encounters.

It’s also worth pointing out that the figures from this study are widely at odds with the statistics from the department of justice. The difference is quite significant too because somehow this survey was able to find a additional million more victims that somehow professional law enforcement had overlooked. It’s also worth noting that according to the survey, anyone who had sex that felt pressured into it or that felt lied to afterwards was considered a sexual assault victim. They also included people who had sex while intoxicated…basically rape had a very open ended definition in this study. Another crucial element to this study is that the definition of rape the researchers were operating under only included victims who were raped by penetration. This means that any male victims who were forced to penetrate via envelopment were not considered rape victims…I repeat…any man who was forced to penetrate against his will was not a rape victim. This means that a man is not a rape victim even if a woman drugged him and inserted him into her while he was passed. If you don’t believe me look up the official FBI definition of rape and see how it exclusively references only penetration.

Now I could go on listing the many faults to this study but I’m sure you all get the point by now which leads me back to docta’s original comment.You tried your best to condone sexist profiling and it failed miserably. You were ok with women preemptively assuming all men are rapist and used a impossibly flawed and reckless study to justify it. No matter how you slice and dice it, a woman who perceives half the population as criminals until proven otherwise is a sexist bigot. I don’t give a damn about your anecdotes and the paranoia of your female friends…you don’t get a license to be sexist when it’s convenient to you. Just like the women on yesallwomen, you don’t get to compare men to poisonous M&Ms and sharks then walk away pretending it isn’t bigotry. A white person would not get away by making the same characterizations about a black person so what gives women the right to be bigots…is this what female empowerment has turned into. Furthermore as stated repeatedly throughout this thread the people most affected by actual crimes of street violence are men…so technically if anyone did have the right to be paranoid it would be men considering they are the ones statistically most likely to be victimized.

Next time do your homework and think a little bit before farting out a response…oh and one last thing. Would you be in favour of a yesallchildren hashtag that compared women to predatory animals…cause given that women commit the majority of child abuse I’m sure such sentiments would be perfectly justified correct:)

Clearly you guys still can’t handle a discussion on gender equality.