c.hp dash dash s.mp hits with the last (second-last?) active frame of s.mp. if they want to shoryu you’re going to eat it no matter what your timing is like.
just go to the srk wiki for frame data.
Hmm I’ll try the dash dash. I just have the timing down well but if this works better then SWEET!!! Plus the added dash should add to the (WTF is she about to do) factor lol. Ty for the heads up on the frame data. I’ll go through it tonight.
Thanks for all the replies for what meaty means! 
you’s gotta bait the shoru…not for nothing but i dont stay on peoples asses when they pick ryu,ken or sagat…akuma isn’t to bad w/ shoru’s
I’m getting a bit better:
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It’s still a habit of jumping a bit too much and mashing, but it’s slowly but surely stopping. I lost the second match, but I stunned a Gief.
@ blackadde Ok you were VERY correct about the dash dash. I’ve spent the past day or so testing this (and other) meaty setups, and this one works like a charm, although if the second dash is mistimed, you could eat a CH trying to st mp.
@ Kether- yes you are getting better every day! Great keeping on the pressure with yamase after A2A resets. Lots of damage, lots of stun. Great use of EX chop. Still got some things to work on though…
-you are still giving up pressure! A good example is round 2. You would’ve won that round had you not backdashed at the end. you got kara, fp, hayate, s mp (frame trap) EX oroshi. At this point ryu is on the ground RIGHT WHERE YOU WANT HIM time for a MIX UP not a back dash. Bait a DP or crossover his body, and continue pressure. Don’t let up. When you let up and give them time to think, they will find a way to beat you, as you saw.
-yup still jumping too much… Remember, Makoto does not move around the board using jumps. FA quick cancel to dash is much better. If you’re going to jump over fire balls, IA tsurugi over them. Especially from half screen. READ: ABOUT HALF SCREEN (or less) AWAY, IF SOMEONE THROWS A FIREBALL AT YOU AND YOU DO IA HK TSURUGI, YOU WILL HIT THEM. Easy 150 damage AND they are now scared to throw fireballs at you (yay).
-also throwing too much. Nothing wrong with thowing, but it should be used as a set up, not just on its own. throw and back throw should be used to take (a little) damage off AND place your opponent in a place to lose even more damage. The thows are useless on their own. Great tool, but don’t depend on it so much.
-learn fukiage. You need fukiage. I know its difficult. but fukiage and IA tsurugi are the key to success in this game. Why, you ask? because if they are scared to jump, they are more likely to get grabbed by karakusa. And that just makes the world a better place.
-finally you are standing still WAY too much. Its nice to judge how to get in, but you must do it quickly. Once you get in STAY IN and pressure them to death. Makoto loitering on the other side of the screen is a no-no.
EDIT- omg just watched the gief match. lol. ok nice stun, he had mad turbo on son! But seriously you couldve beat that gief with 1 button. st mk. Seriously. fukiage if you felt like it. That was, seriously, the worst gief i have ever seen. Ever.
Thanks. My problem with keeping the pressure on grapplers is…them grappling, lol. That I didn’t know the match up that well either. Least I got my stun 
with gief or t.hawk i find staying in the air is better off…stand right next to them on wake up and bait the grabs…so straight jump hk when you come down into s.hp hayate s.mp ex oroshi
I’ll keep that in mind. I’m liking Makoto’s U2 a lot more since her damage with her super is crazy…especially if you get the two hits afterwards. I saw 654 damage!
If you can read/react to your opponent Ultra 2 is awesome, never understood the hate, but then I don’t understand the hate for Makoto in general. The downside is that if you mess it up you can be punished severely.
i personally have trouble with balrogs and blankas and cammys. i always lose to em weather they are actually good or scrubby its so anoying. i recorded some matches yesterday so i’ll post a match vs blanka maybe some1 could tell me why i suck? i dont have any vs cammy or balrog but the next time i fight one i’ll record it and throw it up. if any1 wants to get some matches in i’ll be more then happy to play although i will be in the halo reach frenzy for a little while lol. i know i missed a couple punish oppertunities but i honest dont think it woulda changed the outcome.
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Usually if I miss, people jump over me and they don’t punish or they block and forget about the 3 other hits. I’ve been lucky so far.
Well, I got the best of a Balrog. I don’t think I’ve ever fought one before with Makoto so I didn’t really know what to do. Only thing I knew would work was sweeping his feet when he dash punched. I did a lot of mashing and jumping which I wasn’t proud of. Halo has that effect on me, lol.
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even if you had backdashed that Ultra would have got you lol, don’t bother baiting with focus backdash using Makoto
you look pretty new to the character so the only advice i can give is to keep at it…& stop using Ultra2
But I like Ultra 2
Here’s one I thought I did particularly good in. Well…better than usual.
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both makotos ultraas are really good good if you use them in the right match up. u2 vs balrog or t.hawk though… not so good. although u can punish thawks dive with u2, u can punish it with super ultra also if you have the right spacing, not to mention a zillion other things.
True, most of the time I use it is because I like. Not because it gives me some advantage, lol.
Me on Peacful Jay’s stream starting around 1:22:00.
Most connections were either yellow or orange so it was a little laggier than I’m used to (especially the Juri player), but it wasn’t as bad as I thought it was gonna be.
^^ Good stuff right there! 
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Look at this glitch [media=youtube]J4hY7umHm94[/media]
Instant tele means he should be there instantly right? Like hitbox is always somewhere?
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