Makoto Video Thread/Match Critiques

NCK_Feroce · February 23, 2013, 8:50pm

Love the use of those hayate cancels and blockakusa. Sadly last ones are too weak against cr. lights mashings and invincible reversals. Sometimes after an hayate on hit we can do almost nothing due to the reversal factor.

Etherealwtf · February 24, 2013, 9:03am

Etherealwtf · February 24, 2013, 10:30pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeL-VU4tww4 Why ?

Chewmandinga · February 24, 2013, 11:45pm

Damn that LioR video got me pumped! I know it’s essentially a highlight reel of their best moments but still, I’d love to play more like that. Any idea how s/he got that deep Cross-up Tsurugi at approx 1.15?

Etherealwtf · February 25, 2013, 3:18am

I think the cammy was mashing crouch tech : that’s why this jump in, instant tusrugi is meant for i think. He was already very deep since his attackjump hits. It looks nice but i think it’s better to get the jump in damage. I saw Lior playing today in a tournament and he bodied a Rufus. I wish i could see this again. It feels like this guy knows all you bad habits before he fights you.

Chewmandinga · February 25, 2013, 10:16pm

Was this a local tourny? Any chance I’ll be able to catch the match footage anywhere? Also Ethereal, do you fancy making a video showing inputs for the double-dash cross down after a jump HP? I know Vryu shown off a vid of it a while ago but since the SRK update I can’t seem to find anything! Also his videos hardly ever show inputs so I’m not quite sure what the most consistent method / height for pulling this off at is.

Etherealwtf · February 25, 2013, 11:41pm

http://fr.twitch.tv/kenb0gard/b/370796000 5:35 He also plays later, i will try to write the timestamps. Look for “Paris Full contact One. Luffy, Gagapa, Cuongster, saunic…” in twitch, there are many videos and it’s cut everywhere -.- http://fr.twitch.tv/kenb0gard/b/370834662 14:00

Etherealwtf · February 26, 2013, 12:09am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_qbKqOGRx4 Vryu prefered to adapt it with a cMP instead of the tsurugi. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZbXOAqNIDA This also works to counter reversals srk : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4850tX_vu_I And this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFFEYh1vtzY

Chewmandinga · February 26, 2013, 12:28am

So for the 2nd dash, do you have to input in the opposite direction, or just continue mashing forward? I’ve had varying inconsistent results depending on the height of the HP.

Etherealwtf · February 26, 2013, 12:52am

66 44. You should input your second forward dash after you crossdowned. You are right the HP height changes a lot of things. Why u no ia tsurugi after a crossdown?

Liorfromspace · February 26, 2013, 4:00pm

Money Match FT3 Against WDM.Luffy at 24min11 http://fr.twitch.tv/kenb0gard/b/370817665 Tournament Match against WDM.Perplex begin at 13min49

Liorfromspace · February 26, 2013, 4:04pm

Etherealwtf · February 26, 2013, 6:04pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYkk3s3Us1Q Lior vs Perplex again

Etherealwtf · February 26, 2013, 9:41pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wav8395mdVA Inspired by what i saw in Lior’s fights. <a href="/profile/53636/Liorfromspace">Liorfromspace</a> said:<blockquote class=“Quote”>
<div class=“QuoteText”>Tournament Match against WDM.Perplex begin at 13min49 http://fr.twitch.tv/kenb0gard/b/370834662</div>
</blockquote>

Is there more to be known about this setup ? Also i would like to know why after a safe jump you always use LP for the jump, when you could use MK. Are you letting a door open for them to escape (since a guarded LP, does not give a lot of blockstun, they could escape between lp and sMP), to OS something ? Maybe a dash OS is in the sMP ?

Liorfromspace · February 26, 2013, 10:25pm

I use J.Lp Because my opponent fear of J.lp to karakusa That’s why I often Do J.lp to Hp It’s Frame trap and if he try to jump S.Hp stops him Or I do J.lp Os Dash to karakusa If he back dash, forward dash to karakusa comes out if he Simply guard Makoto will do J.Lp to Karakusa. My English is not verry good and if you want to know more ask me on Twitter (I’m french and I Know you are french too) One more thing Against Ryu replace s.lk with c.lk or C.lp in you setup It’s fake Xup and Anti srk

NCK_Feroce · February 27, 2013, 12:12am

Wow,how many Makotos scientists close to me? (I’m from Italy) Good.

Chewmandinga · February 27, 2013, 3:12am

Why not use Ultra 1 against Rufus? For me the general rule is if they don’t have a fireball you should probably use Ultra 1, with an exception being made for Viper.

NCK_Feroce · February 27, 2013, 4:20am

I use U2 against Rufus (when I find one…) to leave quickly the corner if he’s able to push me in,isn’t easy grab that fat ass… I don’t love U2 randomness,but the potential damage is insane: i.e. after a blocked EX Messiah Kick (before the last follow up hit) we can drop 579dmg with one bar.

Etherealwtf · February 27, 2013, 4:22am

<blockquote class=“Quote”>
<div class=“QuoteAuthor”><a href="/profile/45491/Chewmandinga">Chewmandinga</a> said:</div>
<div class=“QuoteText”>Why not use Ultra 1 against Rufus? For me the general rule is if they don’t have a fireball you should probably use Ultra 1, with an exception being made for Viper.</div>
</blockquote>

U2 seems pretty good to beat messia kick.

Chewmandinga · February 27, 2013, 7:14pm

So I finally got my capture device working for my PS3, but my laptop can’t really handle 720p so apologies for the low quality footage. Gonna upload some proper matches for critiquing soon. In the meantime here was a test vid I got today where I make a fairly derp comeback against an online Gief. Made me chuckle that the obvious tactic worked out. The round in question begins about 30 seconds in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6F_y3qCsyI