Or someone should pay him an arcade stick to pose in a tutu with fairy wings, I hear he really wants #23 of the limited run platinum TE2 for x360.
Some rich FGCer could possibly make it happen :v
This paper/e-tape mod reminds me of nerf-gun mods and simple paintball mods… That isn’t to say that it’s bad, especially if you can’t stand JLFs
The stock LS-56 spring is 2lb. I find 3lb is most comfortable on a personal note. For the OP, try an LS-56/58 or get some Cherry switches if you’re dead set on keeping the JLF. I would also recommend trying a few different spring rates. Stock is .9lb on the JLF. Hit up Paradise Arcade Shop. They have a really wide selection of springs, gates, actuators, and different joystick assemblies as well.
I want to be visited by the Seimitsu Fairy! I have a stack of white Sanwa clones that I would loove to be “presto-chango’d” to some Seimitsu buttons. LoL. Picturing Mark in a Japanese school girl skirt, MadCatz shirt, and fairy wings. No fairy dust. Only salt.
Its funny, the longer you spend on the arcade parts/tech/gear side of things, the more you gravitate towards the more extreme options-- faster engage, shorter throw, harder springs. I know this isn’t just me, I see it happen all the time.
Pretty sure most of the Tech Talk regulars have creamed their jeans over Seimitsu, then fallen down the rabbit hole after the Suzo Inductive and the like.
There’s nothing wrong with the JLF, per se. It has excellent build quality, does everything well, yet just doesn’t do it for me anymore. I don’t even know what my JLF ‘Ultimate’ mod would consist of, but I doubt it would look much like a JLF… 
Nsc- I’m not the rich fkr to do that, I’m poor. Lol when I think of paper and tape mod reminds me of the tape and tissue mod to the skim ps2 to play burned games using ms
Inen- LMFAO at salt!
Ec- I know I’m no elite player, I’m decent but have more fun doing mods than playing sometimes. I wonder how much I would be if I just bought a stock joystick with the hardware j wanted already installed and just played instead of toying with different hardwares
Oh boy…
Get ready to order a replacement spring, though!
The spring on the LS-58 is at least as loose if not looser than the LS-32 spring!
With a tight activation zone as-is, the looser spring actually makes it harder to do special moves for many people.
When Seimitsu redesigned the LS-56 into the LS-58 – one of the dumber and most useless things they’ve done in years (!) --, they decided to put in a new spring that was looser than the LS-56 spring.
*** Part of the LS-56’s reputation is fixed around the fact that it has the tighest-tension spring in the Japanese joystick market. ***
{Don’t get me wrong, I LIKE Seimitsu product… Their design and marketing philosophies can leave something to be desired and are inexplicable! There’s justifiable criticism there… They are the SEGA of joystick parts. I just hope they don’t become Atari!}
The stock LS-58 spring tension hasn’t been to everybody’s liking and many LS-58 owners have eventually gone ahead and replaced the stock LS-58 spring with either an LS-56 spring (which seem to NOT be carried in-stock by many stores) OR have bought one of Paradise Shop’s replacement LS-56 springs with higher tension… PAS carries the original LS-56 spring, 3lb, 4lb, and 5lb variants. The 3lb spring is 1.5 times higher tension than the stock LS-56 (2lb) spring. Don’t know why anyone would go higher than that but some people do; the 3lb version is the spring I installed in my LS-58. (I didn’t see a PAS listing for the original LS-56 spring so bought the next lowest-tension spring listed.) That 3-lb spring is tighter than the spring mod installations I have in my LS-32’s and LS-40’s. I really needed it because I wasn’t getting very far with the stock LS-58. It was harder to execute most special moves with that joystick; it was far too loose for my likes!
Most of the shops that do carry Seimitsu joysticks in the US are carrying the LS-56 now in place of the LS-58. They don’t carry the LS-58, period… Focus Attack is the last place (that I’m aware of) in the Continental US that actually stocks the LS-58. Can’t speak to the exact popularity of the newer joystick but it should be telling you something when 2-3 years after it debuted we’re down to one (known) US store stocking the LS-58 when everybody else has dropped/discontinued stocking the LS-58. The Seimitsu market isn’t huge but it’s big enough that most vendors will stock at least LS-32’s and LS-40’s. The second most-stocked LS-joystick is generally the LS-56, though.
Unless you’re dead-set on bling – you want a matching transparent shaft/dustwasher set and bubbletop handle --, the LS-56(-01) might be a better buy. The stock LS-58 spring is what killed the LS-58 in many people’s eyes. IF you get an LS-58-01 and end up hating the spring, at least you can get a replacement spring from PAS or see if another shop stocks LS-56 springs. Good luck on that last part, though!
The stores I’m aware of selling the LS-56 (with the exception of PAS) sell LS-56-01’s with MS Mounting Plates installed. [That’s been standard for close to two years now; apparently, someone was able to convince Seimitsu to sell LS-56’s with MS Mounting Plates installed to import shops. Before that, the LS-56-01 was sold with the VF Mounting Plate and you had to buy the MS Mounting Plate separate… Yet another $5 to spend for a part!]
The type of mounting plate an LS-series joystick comes equipped (stock) with can make a huge difference on whether it will fit into your joystick case or not. For the LS-32/-40 series, you need the SS Mounting Plate to fit into 98% of the Mad Catz and Hori HRAP joystick cases combined! (The killer is that you HAVE to buy the SS Mounting Plate for every freakin’ LS-40 model… Neither the 0.187-tab version or PCB model of the LS-40 comes stock with the SS Mounting Plate which is what you need to install in every mass-production joystick case on the market! Yep, an automatic $5 extra to install the LS-40 in a joystick case!)
For the LS-56/-58 series, the MS Mounting Plate is generally the better mounting plate to get. (I personally think the LS-58 sits a bit too low with the MS Mounting Plate but can still use the joystick in the white HRAP 3 I installed it in…) The MS Mounting Plate has been the default stock mounting plate for the LS-58 since its American introduction.
NOTE: In yet another area of creating confusion – which Seimitsu is clever at(!) --, the Mounting Plates are NOT cross-compatible between the LS-56 and LS-58. They may have similar names but the installation screw patterns between the two joysticks are different!
I would flag this infinite times if I could.
∞xagree, ∞xlike, ∞xlol, ∞xinsightful
I hated the LS-58. My favorite Seimitsu product to date is the 55.
Officially Seimitsu discontinued the LS-58 in favor of supplying the LS-56 with optional clear dust washers and shaft covers.
Most people just by the bubble tops separate anyway
George- thanks for that informative post. Saved me looking up the info. You would think seimitsu being the number 2 in jap parts would ake them make smart decisions. Even if its somethi.g as simple as plate or not redesigning some that is already good and nerfing it lol .
Dej- fkn awesome drawing, just becareful, the halo makes it religious, you may get flagged, fyi lol
Dark- I buy my bubbles seperate but it would be nice to get a discount/option to combine a bubble. At one point I had a gang of black ball tops just laying around haha
meh, the halo shows that the seimitsu is a fairy and a sa int more than anything else
e/ removed it, as you said theres no point to start bullshit discussion with no benefits
Dude, I was completely joking. That wouldn’t have happened. Damn, now I feel bad
That’s not what I’m seeing or saying.
You can find the LS-58 online… You have to look for it.
I haven’t heard an official about discontinuation.
akihabarashop.jp still has it listed and not a peep on the website about it being discontinued. There was confusion over a year ago about the “Smoke” grey variant LS-58 being discontinued but I think the confusion was over the fact that the LS-58 “exclusive” shaft parts were being sold separately beginning around then. That was the gist of what I read from Focus Attack; I bought my LS-58 from FA.
ArcadeShock is carrying new Qanba SE joysticks (new case designs look ugly) that actually use the LS-58 instead of the LS-32. The previous Qanba SE’s were fitted with LS-32’s.
Of course, Arcade Shock is claiming the LS-58 is the joystick of choice of tourney players! Here are their exact words: “This time around, instead of using the LS-32 joystick, we updated the stick with Seimitsu’s latest LS-58, preferred by most players in Japan and here in the states.”
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Huh?!?!?!??
Officially the stick we known as the LS-58 as no longer being produced, Period.
With the close similarities of the LS-56 and 58 the LS-58 (as we know it) is being discontinued, as is no longer manufactured. Besides the cosmetic differences the LS-58 just has a inferior spring. All the other parts are the exactly the same size and specs.
Existing unsold stock will still be offered until there is no more. That will be it no more. There is still unsold LS-58s in Seimitsu’s stock so they continue to offer them to retailers till that stock is gone.
What Seimitsu going to be offered are LS-56’s in whats traditionally LS-58 color choices (and may or may not be offered under the LS-58 name). Also the LS-58’s dust washers and Shafts are still being offered separately.
The only real difference between the two joysticks are the spring. It could be just the inferior LS-58 spring just being discontinued as that be one less production line.
Newer made Seimitsu joysticks are going to be made with a sticker of authenticity as a Seimtsu product on the mounting plate.