Maki: Cvs 2 Rebirth. (AKA "The Sweet Ninja" )

Short jump that shit down.

And make sure that fool ain’t got safe fall or = your ass.

I have to agree with Mummy … Use s.rh It’s gonna be your best AA option by far. You can use standing FP but their’s a funny angle whereBlanka’s jumping RH,and jumping mp can creep in on you. If Blanka is hopping up and down horing Jumping RH , use c.FP It’s cool… it’s give’s you more options after the AA… (run- up/run-stop/dash -up) blah blah stuff. With really solid AA 's c.fp,s.rh,kkk Blanka should not be jumping in on you “from a far” at all. Free damage:)

Fighting Blanka at a distance I try to bait Blanka with run/stop,back “n” forth… in…short,quick,burst.
(RCmethod) Sometimes I get Blanka to jump in on me.
Then I just “AA”. If blank decides to mp,or fp ball… just smack him with s.jab,s.mp,s.mk,s.fp depending on the distance. All those normal should beat a non RC ball clean. Punish the ball with mk slide(RC fast slide) Blah blah blah. I think If your stand, or if you block fast you can use qcf+p it’s just as good.

Side note: A cool thing is to… jab blanka out of a blanka ball… and then buffer Maki’s command run’s from the jab.:slight_smile: :o
Another one is (if you dont mind wasting bar) you can level 1 qcf2+k after a blocked Blanka Ball. It wont connect but you can tick in to level 1, or level 2 720 grab when Blanka blocks. I think it
works better than Raiden’s running bull to 720 tick.

720 ,or JD RC elect on wake up. Dont forget to AA them if they jump straight up and you wiff 720. (sometime’s I forget because I am pissed… I hate wiffing 720’s thanks BT88) IF I wiff 720 with Maki, and they jump straight up… If I have level… I usually 720 them again on the way down. It make’s me feel better.:o

Other than that… my option are kinda of limited/having no JD’s,small jump’s, or run…
I think well placed small jumps work well on Blanka?
Small jump FP to punch super… small jump crossup to 720 tick.
Iam not for sure. :confused:

If you deside to body Blanka up us s.lk, s.jabs (Blanka cant duck’em), Standing mk (I am fond of that normal also…:smiley: .)
Try to stay on your feet. If you can… be ready for Blanka’s fp slide, RC elect, and c.RH.
IF Blanka is wiffing moves in your face smack’em with s.FP to super. Also qcf+p is starting to work for me alot more… It even beat’s some pokes on start up. Remember to get your throw’s in. Maki can throw your ass.

General Blanka stuff… try to gain ground while Blank is not charging. Blah Blah Blah:bluu: If Blanka steps foward for 1 sec. That’s your time to make your move with Maki and get in on him.

Another thing Ive noticed is that everytime Blanka does RC elect. Blanka loose’s his charge. Dont be scard to run up to him, or throw a projectile because he cant Blanka ball/super you.
Best poke’s to use with Maki when trying to hit Blanka out of RC elect start up/recovery is s.mp,or,s.fp. Maki’s tonfa will go right through Blanka’s RC elect. At least if you mess up the timing you wont get zapped.

I hope I did not write too much… No D

Some random, but helpful tips (better for noobs)…

If you plan to use her c.fp or s.fk as AA, know WHEN and WHEN NOT to use it…

c.fp is good when your opponent has one of those really high jumps that go over your head (chun, bison, etc…).
However, it’s NOT perfect in the sense that it’s only a really solid AA if you throw it out quick and early. If isn’t the fastest AA in the world, so if you see Bison coming down on you with a j.rh and he’s already pretty close, just block. Don’t gamble with a late c.fp because chances are you’ll most likely just eat a counter hit into combo.
Good players know which of their jumpins to abuse and chances are, they’ll beat out Maki’s c.fp if it’s executed too late.

s.fk is good if you want a better angle on the AA. s.fk tends to shoot out further than the c.fp and seems reliable for attacks that are coming in at a 45 deg angle. c.fp works better for jumpins that are coming in a 75-80 deg angles. The drawback to using s.fk is pretty much the same as c.fp in that it doesn’t come out as fast as you would want. There is also some pretty bad lag time with a whiffed s.fk. c.fp doesn’t suffer as much in lag time, but you still shouldn’t whiff it too much. Anyway, s.fk is good if you can anticipate or react quickly on short jumps or people with flat jumps that seem to get you with the tips of their attacks.

There are some instances in which you can use c.fp and s.fk interchangeably, but I’d suggest you practice well with both and see for yourself when to use which one, and against what moves. Use kkk to AA when you HAVE to, but really try to get good with her normal AA’s so you won’t have to rely on her special as much (it takes off life and takes forever to recover on whiff). kkk is good to use if the opponent has got in DEEP with the jumpin (similar to the way you wait for opponents to get deep before you dp them with Sagat or the Shotos). If you don’t wanna waste life, then just block. Don’t be scared to take SOME guard damage, but you really have to watch out for people with strong rushdowns like Cammy/Blanka/Sagat/Chun/etc… They’re all really good at crushing guard and people like Sagat/Chun/Cammy in cGroove have combos that can practically destroy a full-life Maki (or any other character…).

As usual, learn how to be solid before learning to be flashy/tricky. You won’t even ever get the chance to show off your tricks if your Maki can’t handle a decent player whoring top tier chars. Setups also tend to work best when you’ve got your opponent rundown and frustrated. Play a solid footsie game and surprise them with a 720 or crossover setup when they least expect it.

I’ve been using Maki for months now, and I really don’t know what else to write about in here…
Buk gave some really helpful pointers regarding her ground/air game using normals/specials/whatever.
No-D and Mum-B shared a lot of setups and tricks to land crossovers/supers.
What’s left?
Any suggestions on new stuff to post about?

Dude.

c.fp anti-air, command run, stop (ground cross up underneath them as they are falling down), into 720 is SO FUCKING DOPE

how bout we make diff topics. instead of just making one gigantic one. its too cluttered on this topic. we should make a thread about setups…and thread about combos…and a thread to just talk about her. because having one topic to just “ask anything” is kinda a hassle in a way.

whohoo… there is a mod!!!

and is maki suppose to have a rough time against sak or vega(claw)? I think this may have been asked already…tho I doubt it

i agree somewhat

but since there aren’t very many maki players who post here…i don’t think it matters…if anyone has a question about maki…they can pretty much ask it here…

plus…reading this whole thread pretty much helps out anyone learn how to do the basics of maki anyways…

plus this thread is posted often for a few days and no one posts for a few weeks…

maki doesn’t seem very popular…

we should make her become more popular!

I need to go to a tournament sooooooooo badly.:o But seriously though unless sombody starts Beasting with Maki at a major/tournament’s it’s not gonna happen.
Iam spent when I comes to Maki 720 blah blah blah Jazz tacticts.
It would be cool If someone wrote a Maki faq ,or something?..
I dont know what else to say about Maki. I just dont want to be talking out of my ass. Bump
I love Maki… I want to marry her. :smiley: SEE heh heh heh. If you got something holla.:lame:
No D

yea…maki owns any hot game girl! >D :evil:

I have been getting the ranges for the wall dives down of late, but not having the game on console has limited me somewhat. Digging the barrel for stuff to post here…

Anyway…

Crossup mk wall dive
Now, this catches people the first few times, but when they become aware of it, this will hardly ever hit because the crossup is not ambiguous. Use sparingly, because Maki is OPEN if they block.

However, if they do block, you have a small window to land the 720 if your opponent is stuck in brainfreeze and are slow on sticking out a normal.

A succesful mk dive puts Maki in an excellent position tho:

Someone (maybe Bucktooth) mentioned that a successful crossup mk wall dive can often lead to a followup hk dive, and its true, my opponents have been known to fall for this on the odd occasion. Problems resume when they get wise to this.

BUT, Maki has options here. A successful crossup mk dive puts her in perfect range for:

Deep hk dive (if blocked and not punished, go for 720!)
Hp wall dive (risky, but worth it sometimes)
Low lp dive (followup with crossup mk)
LATE lk wall dive (to bait reversals)
and all of her normal setups (low jump, run/stop, quick run+hk grab etc)

Other things…

Knocking your opponent down in the corner does NOT set them up for a ‘crossup’ mp dive. In fact, I have yet to find a use for the mp dive except for some very specific ranges (which dont happen very often).

Maki’s RCd qcf+p is a good clutch anti-air and should be used when youre not quite sure whether to use cr.hp or st.hk. In addition it is a good poke to bust out occasionally… I dont use it often, but is good to punish a predictable cr.hp from Blanka for instance.

i saw the vid for that guy at evo with maki. his is ok. the only real good thing he did was that combo into kick super

What guy from evo who used Maki?

i thin his name is Iyo

LoL…
You thought Iyo’s Maki was ok?
and here I always thought Iyo’s Maki was pretty much the best in the world…
He didn’t go to Evo either.
I dunno what vids you’re seeing, but they’re prolly casual matches from Japan or something.

i dont think so…i believe it was evo

If it was Evolution footage then it wasn’t Iyo, because he didn’t go. Iyo’s Maki is fucking ill.

my file says

shiro_vs_iyo.wmv
shiro_vs_iyo_2.wmv

so i know its him. and he did use maki both fights. and it wasnt anything spectacular. the maki got owned the second macth by sagat.

Like I said, “I dunno what vids you’re seeing, but they’re prolly casual matches from Japan or something.”

Those matches weren’t from Evo…

I’m not quite sure what you would consider to be “spectacular” matches, but Iyo’s Maki in those vids was solid… People don’t land 720 setups or kick super combos in every single match that they play. Really, I’d like to see some vids of a Maki you believe to be spectacular if you don’t think Iyo’s is.

Those matches are also about 2 years old. How good was your Maki back then?