Madcatz xbox360 LT/RT help

[zombie_cpt]

@theeggplantwizard, looks you got your grd/wiper/volt mixed up in your picture. Good luck on your next attempt, let me know if you want to get one from me since I got a couple few older cg pcb. $32 shipped for just the pcb or $65 shipped with triggers hacked.

[System_1]

@theeggplantwizard, looks you got your grd/wiper/volt mixed up in your picture. Good luck on your next attempt, let me know if you want to get one from me since I got a couple few older cg pcb. $32 shipped for just the pcb or $65 shipped with triggers hacked.

I may take you up on that zombie, I can’t seem to find anything but the newest models around Western Mass. For now, I’m going to enjoy my sticks as is before I destroy them.

[Rjizzlet86]

I got a couple few older cg pcb.
$32 shipped for just the pcb or $65 shipped with triggers hacked.

Hey Zombie,
I see you live in San Leandro! I was wondering if I could bring you a controller to hack?
What would be your prices for a wired CG 360 controller or for the newer mad catz wired 360 controllers?
Please email me @ rjizzlet86@gmail.com. Oh and I live in Hayward btw =).

[zombie_cpt]

Hey Zombie,
I see you live in San Leandro! I was wondering if I could bring you a controller to hack?
What would be your prices for a wired CG 360 controller or for the newer mad catz wired 360 controllers?
Please email me @ rjizzlet86@gmail.com. Oh and I live in Hayward btw =).

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[Faight]

In case you or anyone else would prefer, another way would be to use an inverter chip like a 74XX04 or 74XX14. (XX indicates the family of chip. I usually go with HC’s, AC’s, HCT’s or ACT’s unless there is a good reason to use otherwise.) Here’s a digikey listing for an HCT14:
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=296-2093-5-ND

Connect the high voltage trigger pad to pin 14. Connect ground to pin 7 definitely, and it’d be best if you also connect ground to pins 5, 9, 11, and 13. On pin 1, connect your left button signal wire, and also connect pin 1 to power through a pull up resistor (5k-10kohm). On pin 3, connect your right button signal wire, and also connect pin 3 to power through a pull up resistor (5k-10kohm). Connect the left wiper line on the pcb to pin 2, and the right wiper line on the pcb to pin 4.

Using transistors requires a total of four resistors and two transistors per pad; this way requires two resistors and one chip. use which ever way is easiest for you. The unused pins are unused outputs; feel free to clip those off close to the chip.

So just to clear up the confusion I’m seeing from reading this whole thread (twice) I will need the following per trigger:

2 10k resistors
1 inverter chip (74XX04 or 74XX14, HC, AC, HCT, or ACT).

The sticks I’m building will have the default 360 button setup (right button and right trigger for the two heavy attacks) so will only utilize one trigger button. The other I can just hotglue the pot in place like I used to with the analog sticks for ps2 pads, right?

What is the average cost of these parts?

[Toodles]

So just to clear up the confusion I’m seeing from reading this whole thread (twice) I will need the following per trigger:

2 10k resistors
1 inverter chip (74XX04 or 74XX14, HC, AC, HCT, or ACT).

Reread the quote from me again Those two resistors and one chip will take care of both triggers on a pad that needs inverted.

The sticks I’m building will have the default 360 button setup (right button and right trigger for the two heavy attacks) so will only utilize one trigger button. The other I can just hotglue the pot in place like I used to with the analog sticks for ps2 pads, right?

What is the average cost of these parts?

PS2 pads have pots? Wierd.
At any rate, you could just leave the LT pot on and hot glued in place, in which case you’d only need one resistor and the chip. If you’re uncertain about this whole process, then I’d recommend you go ahead and remove both pots and invert both triggers. You may not need it in that stick for now, but you may need it later, and the iron will be hot already and you don’t have to think about it outside of following the posted directions.

Costs? Hehe. Resistors: about 5-10 cents usually, down to 4/10ths of a cent or so if buying in quantities in the hundreds. Chip: 50 cents to a dollar.

[Faight]

Reread the quote from me again Those two resistors and one chip will take care of both triggers on a pad that needs inverted.
PS2 pads have pots? Wierd.
At any rate, you could just leave the LT pot on and hot glued in place, in which case you’d only need one resistor and the chip. If you’re uncertain about this whole process, then I’d recommend you go ahead and remove both pots and invert both triggers. You may not need it in that stick for now, but you may need it later, and the iron will be hot already and you don’t have to think about it outside of following the posted directions.

Costs? Hehe. Resistors: about 5-10 cents usually, down to 4/10ths of a cent or so if buying in quantities in the hundreds. Chip: 50 cents to a dollar.

I’ll just wire both triggers up, though I don’t see ever using them (6 button sticks). I’ll hit up the electronics shop in the morning and see if I can’t find these parts.

For the PS2 pad bit I must correct myself, I was talking about the dual shock PSX pads; I just recall posts online saying “Don’t remove the analog thingies just hotglue them so they can’t move otherwise your pad is fucked”. Not sure if it’s the same thing exactly, but it sounds similar.

[Faight]

So I picked up a handful of resistors, checked out two radio shacks and an actual electronics store and no place had inverters. Special ordered 15 inverters from the electronics store (74HC04’s) at a buck each, and grabbed two 15 packs of transistors because they were 2 bucks a pack. I figure I’ll try the transistor method for now.

If I read the thread from the other forum right it doesn’t matter what kind of transistor it is as long as it’s a small pnp right? I’ll give it a shot this afternoon when I wake up (darn night shift, I’m usually asleep by now) and post my results. I’d like to have one or two of these beasts working by this afternoon so I can have them ready to give out by the weekend.

[Toodles]

So I picked up a handful of resistors, checked out two radio shacks and an actual electronics store and no place had inverters. Special ordered 15 inverters from the electronics store (74HC04’s) at a buck each, and grabbed two 15 packs of transistors because they were 2 bucks a pack. I figure I’ll try the transistor method for now.

If I read the thread from the other forum right it doesn’t matter what kind of transistor it is as long as it’s a small pnp right? I’ll give it a shot this afternoon when I wake up (darn night shift, I’m usually asleep by now) and post my results. I’d like to have one or two of these beasts working by this afternoon so I can have them ready to give out by the weekend.

The directions I posted up use an NPN transistor. The directions that someone posted over at xbox-scene use PNP transistors. So if you have PNP transistors, make sure to follow the schematic from xbox-scene and not mine.

[System_1]

Mad Catz Trigger Solution

For Cherry Micro switches I wire the trigger middle pins to common and either high or low to NC or NO depending. When you remove the pots one trigger defaults high and the other low. For Japanese buttons, simply solder a jumper to the normally on trigger to neutralize it. Viola! Total cost: $.01 resistor from Jameco. I have made three Joysticks with eight buttons using this method. PM for some pictures if your confused.

-Alan

[Toodles]

For Cherry Micro switches I wire the trigger middle pins to common and either high or low to NC or NO depending. When you remove the pots one trigger defaults high and the other low. For Japanese buttons, simply solder a jumper to the normally on trigger to neutralize it. Viola! Total cost: $.01 resistor from Jameco. I have made three Joysticks with eight buttons using this method. PM for some pictures if your confused.

-Alan

No one has doubted that would work. It just won’t work for the kind of mods we do.

[gamingnow.net]

No one has doubted that would work. It just won’t work for the kind of mods we do.

I don’t understand, what mods wouldn’t that work for?

[Faight]

The directions I posted up use an NPN transistor. The directions that someone posted over at xbox-scene use PNP transistors. So if you have PNP transistors, make sure to follow the schematic from xbox-scene and not mine.

Sorry, I was really tired when I posted. I stayed up super late (for me) to pick up the parts. I have a 15 pack of NPN and a 15 pack of PNP.

I’m good to go either way.

[Toodles]

I don’t understand, what mods wouldn’t that work for?

Light up LED mod, dual pcb mods, etc. Any mod that required a common ground.

[wussmonster]

had a quick question, didnt want to clutter up with a new thread. do the above methods work on OEM wired 360 controllers? thx in advance.

[System_1]

oem pcb’s only require (1) 10k ohm resistor per trigger IF they are removed

[wussmonster]

cool thx for the info.

[System_1]

Hi everyone.

Here’s my PCB:

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6108/figura2f.jpg

The triggers don’t work correctly because the guy that made it for me, share the ground with the other buttons.

They work like have been pressed (position ON) but don’t work on SFIV.

Now he and me can’t find the correct ground to make the two buttons to work correctly. I’ve tried the ground point like the first picture and in this ground:

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/5982/ground.jpg

and in botht points, the triggers don’t work.

What could be wrong?

[System_1]

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