@Usinoda you need to chill the hell out bro. Just because someone posts something informative that seems to disagree with what you say doesn’t mean you need to get defensive and take it personally like it’s some type of attempted attack.
If I make an OPINION that happens to be an inside joke, EVEN IF YOU DON’T KNOW IT’S A JOKE, there’s still no reason for you to give me attitude over because you disagree.
I’ll go ahead and reply to your questions/comments below despite their obvious sarcasm and attitude, just spare us the negativity and don’t assume everything I say is an attack on you.
For relevance, i’ll image quote @d3v who posted the joke in this very thread before you posted
Almost every single retail arcade stick by Madcatz, Hori, Qanba/Eightarc, and custom builders such as Foehammer, Souji5, Hitbox and others use the same standard style button layouts.
The distance between the buttons are almost all the same, and this Madcatz stick looks to be on par with every stick they’ve ever released which is the first 3 buttons of a Vewlix layout.
Yeah I need to learn something about arcade sticks. :-/
EDIT - Usinoda hit that “Disagree” button, as if anything I stated above wasn’t fact. LOL! The new blood knows it all.
I’m not taking things personal, now you’re blowing things out of proportion. My point is that 8 buttons is the most optimal hands down regardless if it was a joke or not. Also nice way of dealing with my “attitude” by combating me with attitude(a condescending one at that, which just files the fire), and assuming that I’m actually mad or hyped up therefore I need to “chill out”.
Secondly, where’s the source where MadCatz and others actually state that the buttons NEEDS to be that far apart? From what I see that’s technically just their preference that they’ve established. Despite them being the quintessential stick manufacturers. I’ve seen stick with various button lengths. The fact that the Alpha stick in the picture has a wider button spread, and the fact that you said " almost"** all sticks proves me right.
The buttons aren’t further from each other it’s just an close up shot of a small a stick, look at your current stick next to the photo close enough where the buttons are the same size and you’ll see they are same width apart from each other. Also Mad Catz Hori and other companies use Noir, Vewlix etc layouts and yes they are all standard layouts, squishing more buttons on this tiny stick would be much too cramped and leave problems if you ever wanted to use screw-in buttons and probably uncomfortable.
Also 8 buttons aren’t optimal, they are preference, one isn’t better than the other. Many top players use a mix of 1 to 5 fingers on the most popular fighting games and many use 6 buttons because they are used to training the in arcades where 8 buttons doesn’t exist and using the 2 extra buttons wouldn’t give them a game play advantage.
Yeah champ. I hit the disagree button because I did not agree with your first paragraph. Oh wow a person decided to actually share how he feels about the matter… Hey bud keep blowing things out of proportion drama queen.
The buttons aren’t further from each other it’s just an close up shot of a small a stick, look at your current stick next to the photo close enough where the buttons are the same size and you’ll see they are same width apart from each other. Also Mad Catz Hori and other companies use Noir, Vewlix etc layouts and yes they are all standard layouts, squishing more buttons on this tiny stick would be much too cramped and leave problems if you ever wanted to use screw-in buttons and probably uncomfortable.
Also 8 buttons aren’t optimal, they are preference, one isn’t better than the other. Many top players use a mix of 1 to 5 fingers on the most popular fighting games and many use 6 buttons because they are used to training the in arcades where 8 buttons doesn’t exist and using the 2 extra buttons wouldn’t give them a game play advantage.
Hm… Then where are the 2 button te2’s at? Exactly. The extra 2 buttons are very optimal for competive use and while you’re in the lab. Even if you don’t use them, its always nice to have those extra two buttons for whatever reason. If you don’t use the extra two, then set them to no function. Simple as that.
Exactly, optional not optimal thanks for agreeing. No clue what you meant by 2 button TE2’s though, would be pretty dumb for a company to make a 2 button stick when games use 4-6 buttons(And junk weird games like that robot beta one uses 8) Like I said many top players Do Not use 8 buttons other than for training to use as a dummy recorder/play back.
Sorry that was a typo obviously you condescending idiot. I meant where are the 6 button te2’s you tool. Also i never proved your point right at all, i’m saying that even if you don’t use 8 buttons you should still consider getting 8 button sticks just in case the time comes around; Who knows, maybe you’ll find use for those 2 buttons along the lines.
You’re an idiot actually. In case you misunderstood I stated that he’s “trying” to popoff on me. I never said that he actually was
EDIT: Conclusion, this thread is filled with condescending pricks.
“It is one of Plato’s significant contributions to epistemology to have seen that we do not possess bits of knowledge in isolated, fragmented segments. One never knows a single entity, in isolation from its ties to other things; all knowledge involves systematic interconnecting. If the circle of our beliefs is sufficiently large, and the interconnections suitably comprehensive, the links in the circle are transformed from true beliefs into pieces of knowledge. Eight buttons is dick.”
As information is released, i’ll update the main post. Once it’s released and people do mods for it, i’ll provide links/credit to those individuals worklog/documentation/photos etc
That’s the Sega Astro player 2 layout. The layout more commonly used by retail sticks is the player 1 layout.
The only retail stick that ever had the Astro P2 layout was the Sega Dreamcast Agetec “Green Goblin.” That and that Dragoncast stick that was talked about recently here.
I WISH the Astro P2 layout was more out there.
I always wondered, what was the purpose of the seventh button? Was it to replicate the NEO-GEO layout on the top row?
