I can zone with Ryu in marvel?
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being able to do full screen hyper combos makes him a good zoner?
A hyper combo that’s one frame post flash and full screen…yeah. Especially with how haphazardly people call out stuff like Tron and Haggar assists.
Let’s see here: they took away Morrigan’s rush game, plus her high low game; they took away Storm’s zoning and keep away and left her with real shitty rushdown, they took away Sentinel’s health and chip damage game and air control game which makes him not scary anymore, they took away Doom’s air control…If you think characters are defined by one gimmick, then you have a serious problem. The only thing they did with Magneto was technically make him better since everybody in this game virtually has the same amount of health he had in MvC2 and you can’t mash out of his grab or his hyper grav; oh yeah, they also gave him significantly better zoning because his EM disruptor is fast as hell. Just because the characters are somehow shoehorned into the same styles doesn’t mean that the entirety of their play (the whole of their game) somehow remained just as peachy. The actual stuff that makes a difference in them (the stuff you refuse to acknowledge and/or are simply ignorant of) is the one that got hurt the most hence they don’t play the same anymore.
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So uhh… is this a thread about Lupinko saying there will be a Super MvC3? Assuming it is, I’m kind of glad actually, maybe they’ll get TACs, XF, and Phoenix right this time, because god knows they didn’t the first time.
How do you get XF and Phoenix wrong when they never existed beforehand? Pretty sure they released as Capcom envisioned. Whether they work is discussion, but not if they got it ‘wrong or right’. Seems like an odd thing to say.
Not necessarily right or wrong but clearly not ideal when used in tandem. A somewhat (very) old story at this point was that would seem to largely mirror this situation is that when they first made the Hubble Space Telescope they tested its lenses (as in two distinct lenses) prior to launching. Then they shot that bitch up into space and the pictures they got back sucked. Why? They had never tested the two lenses operating together. Result: A very costly and time consuming fix for something that should have been caught prior to launch. As broken as Mahvel is and as much as that is used as a defense for brokenness in general one easily gets the idea that inadequate testing went into a system that frequently results in 7 second reverse OCVs.
I really dont want a character that can tri dash to have super armor. I understand Hulk and Sentinel having it because they can’t overhead you and convert to combos as easily. Thor dashing in with armor would get stupid as fuck. Let’s at least have one big power type that requires more than sitting on normals that sometimes can out prioritize even when you’re not thinking.
Exactly, lvl3 DP is very homosex and I hope they make her less homosex.
The fact that Capcom couldn’t see that D.Phoenix in level 3 XF was going to be completely mindless winning for anyone is pretty funny. Level 3 XF Sentinel requires plenty more work than she does and that’s pretty sad. The character can zone and rushdown literally by just mashing buttons and doing random teleports. If level 3 XF is supposed to let you come back by turning your character into a super character it shouldnt’ last 20 seconds. Especially not for a character that if any thought is applied is almost impossible to land a clean hit on by most of the cast when in XF3.
I think the concept of the character is great. It’s just level 3 XF turns every most of the cast into brainless randomness and a character as powerful as Phoenix just takes it to a level that really doesn’t need to be in competitive fighting games. Dark Phoenix without XF has issues that most of the cast can at least take advantage of. Like at least there is a matchup when she doesn’t have XF.
I think capcom is fully aware of D.Phoenix. According to seth, she is like 1/3 as strong as she was in initial builds lol.
Akuma13, stop trying please.
Saying “Most characters who carried from MvC2 did not get a drastic makeover” and trying to save face by saying stuff like MvC2 magneto= Rushdown, MvC3 magneto= rushdown so they did not get a drastic makeover is just sad to read. You seem to be confusing playstyle and drastic makeover. You can get a drastic makeover and still keep the same play style. If you’re a rushdown character focused on high/low mix up and you get switched to a left/right mix up rushdown character with different combos and different way to deal with situations because of a new game engine, you have had a drastic makeover despite retaining the same playstyle.
I agree but ideally she should just be snapped in and destroyed immediately.
Even with lvl3 xfc there are characters that can combat her, Trish works very well for me with multi-air dashing. A lot of DP’s like to try and chip spam using her lvl 1 . I would just superjump and then airdash -> dive kick for the connect. I’m sure Trish isn’t the only one who can do something similar. Or if your xfc is still available baiting her level one or tele and xfc punish with a priority lvl 3. The only DP’s I have issues with are the ones that like to sit in the top right corner spamming the homing fireballs, though lately I’ve been seeing them try that with a teleport behind and not just staying up there.
While I’m not disagreeing that she basically has a touch of death and may be overtuned to an extent, she’s not impossible to beat.
You’d actually never believe this but Hsien Ko of all characters is pretty good at running away from X Factor’d characters. Super Jump + air dash then Senpu Buu x 3.
Nini Heart, you don’t even understand what I said. You know what, fuck it, I’m deleting the post so that I don’t hear any more shit. I’m not trying to save face, I simply phrased it wrong which is why a lot of my posts get misconstrued and arguments happen. I apologize, I will accept that I am wrong for the reason that you are accusing me of.
if this game is true ( knowing capcom, it is ) for the love of god give us vergil or strider, and fix that horrible ass TAC system along with XDERPTOR. and DP xfactor stats need to be hugely revised. but i won’t mind it staying long as xfactor get tweaked…a lot.
Wishlist:
-Rework XF. Think I speak for everyone when I say the level 3 bonus is way overboard. There is nothing exciting about watching, performing, or being the victim of a level 3 XF comeback.
-Change TAC system to be more like TvC. The guessing game is stupid and reminiscent of party games.
-Reduce the insane amount of time you get to confirm into a full combo after a divekick.
-Buff low tiers, leave high tiers alone (except for the stuff mentioned above)
-New characters: CAPCOM VILLAINS!! Marvel has Doom, Shuma, Dormammu, Magneto, Dark Phoenix, Skrull, MODOK, Galactus (kinda), Sentinel (sort of a villain)…Capcom has…Wesker and Akuma?
Would love to see: Sigma, Bison, Vergil, Dr. Weil, Demitri, Valgas
Would also like to see a Mega Man Zero costume for Zero.
If they could somehow find a workaround for Demitri’s Midnight Bliss I’d be behind his being in this game 100 percent. He’s the REAL main character of DS.
I would be happy with just a general female model for all characters (They did that with Anakaris his curse in MvC2 as well, everyone turned into the same small erm… creature), Demitri could be pretty badass in MvC3 style
Quoted… just because 