Lupinko says there will be a Super MvC3 [rambling and dreams: enter at your own risk]

No I mean some deep seated shit that makes them lash out online because the social backlash is near non-existent. There are some negative nancies online that need to meditate or something.

And that random jackoff? He pretty much leaked MvC3. Even if he’s wrong this time he more than earned the benefit of a doubt.

Crazy talk.

capcom has already said adding spectator mode will affect online play and make it worse. That’s why it wasn’t implemented.

If they add spectator mode and online becomes worse, WTF is the point? everyone will quite cause it got worse than before and there will be no one to watch.

side track for my tweaks:

improve the net code if possible

fix the stage slow down, don’t know why that’s even an issue anymore. Its 2011, not 1993.

fix the way assist get hit and transition hit stun to the opponent point character. Player A hits Player B’s assist but doesn’t touch Player B’s point character. As player B’s assist is getting hit, whatever hit stun is being applied to the assist transitions to Player B’s point character and it just stops Player B from moving. They go into the this skipping type animation and its just really fucking ugly to look @. Very bad programming flaw and it prevents the game from being played properly.

Exchange air combos should not build a whole fucking bar. Whats even dumber is that if you counter it, you do 50,000 damage lol, wtf is that? opponent gets 3 ways to mix you up in which you can’t even tell what direction it will be since all 3 exchange directions look the same. Then you barely get any damage when countered, 50,000 is roughly 1 Jab and the opponent gets a whole fucking bar if successful? who the fuck thought that was a good idea? Should be really easy to fix. Prevent exchange from building a whole bar, you don’t get a bar for a successful regular tag. The other way is to allow the person countering the exchange to a get full combo on the person attempting the exchange. 50,000 damage isn’t a whole fucking lot when the opponent get a whole bar and unscaled combo if successful.

Its mildly amusing how capcom implies that adding things like spectator mode would make online “worse” as if it isnt already terrible to begin with.

Tekken 6 BR online and the likes of other 3d fighters and shooters with much more mess on screen seem to be able to pull off spectator quite effortlessly. Thats not to compare 2d fighters to 3d shooters but Capcom games have BAD NETCODE. So its pretty obnoxious to say “well spectator mode would degrade the experience” when the experience is already pretty lackluster.

I would rather watch a choppy spectator mode and at least see what the other person is doing rather than stare at 6 lifebars and have no idea whats going on.

Here’s an idea: With this possible upgrade coming up, perhaps Capcom will - put more time/effort/money into it? It is was something they literally could not do I don’t think Seth would mention it as one of the things they’re looking into.

Unless you’re of the ‘Capcom lies, trust no official source’ sort, in which case there’s little we’ll agree on. Funny thing is; I’m not even saying it’ll make it in, just that Capcom will work on that seriously so they won’t be ridiculed on that note again.

If it cannot happen, another poster suggested very viable alternatives to the lobby experience in this thread.

Well… things can always *be *worse from their current state. Degrees and all that.

This game is obviously way too unfinished to not have some kind of an update. You can just tell when you put the game in that you’re really not getting all you’re supposed to be getting. There’s a lot of Vanilla SFIV style mistakes that have gotten into the development of the game that will definitely need some ironing out. I still think the game is very competitive at the state that it’s in now but with the DHC reset stuff and what not it may be a bit too hardcore for some people when the game is going to eventually be about getting hit and dying even from the start of the round. I really would like to explore more resets and mix ups with X23 but now that I can just DHC glitch the shit out of her there isn’t much point. If I land something and dont drop the combo, I kill a character. I only need enough mix up to land one hit and that’s a lot easier to accomplish with the DHC glitch.

Just buff Hsien Ko and I’ll buy this shit.

You won’t rest until Lei-Lei is goddess tier.

Give me spectator mode and TVC Roll and I will double dip on Dattomavuru.

Any predictions for what we’ll see from this, not what we WANT, but we actually think will happen?

The only thing I feel I know for sure is a damage nerf across the board, not uncommon for transitions for jumps from first iterations to 2nd at all.

I would settle for “better than bottom tier” actually.

EDIT: I can almost gurantee X Factor is getting toned down somehow. Can’t say exactly how yet, but it’s getting toned down some.

I really think we might get an on and off switch for X-Factor. They know that’s what the competitive community wants. If we don’t get on and off, X-Factor will probably get an all around nerf, less chip damage, but not zero, less damage, less speed, and less time. If you nerfed everything by 1/3 then everything would be fine. Actually, keep X-Factor 1 as the same, but nerf 2 and 3 by 1/3 across the board.

I pretty much expected this from day one. The only way this WOULDN’T happen is that Capcom somehow lost the rights to Marvel fighting games. And let’s not kid ourselves, Capcom has been doing this from decades. I remember reading this a long time ago:

http://www.gamespot.com/features/vgs/universal/sfhistory/games_10_01.html

I’ve been enjoying this game despite its issues and will be happy to pick up the next one.

Hopes for the next game:
Nerf X-Factor
Reduce damage on assists to 1.25
Add Mega Man, Strider, Cyclops, and Gambit (and other classic Vs characters)
Some new Capcom and Marvel fighters

Here would be my hopes

Nerf level 2 and 3 X factor (less damage and much less time)
Nerf the OVERALL damage about 10-15%
Make it so the player has to activate Dark Phoenix… not an automatic activation
Gambit, Venom, Strider, and Krauser

If there has to be an on and off switch for something, it’s better off being gone completely (except for like…aesthetic things).

God I wish…

Damage could be lowered but whatevs. X-factor is fine but I think it could be improved. Some characters need to be buffed, maybe a couple could use nerfs or just general tuning.

But what I really care about is GENE. Put that fucker in this game.

MVC3 just needs

Strider, Gene, Tessa, and Megaman X - Spiral, Cable, Venom (or anti-venom), and who ever else. Ultron is a nice marvel character to put in; and i would have Cyke over Gambit and venom any day… but i don’t really care too much about the marvel side outside of Spiral and Cable.

No one misses spiral? Wasn’t she like the first character capcom ever made that had such “holy shit that’s cool” move sets? I mean during COTA, she could switch sides, teleport, throw random swords and all that shit. She was a great character… i guess she would need to be redesigned a bit since arthur plays like her.

Bottom line: IMO, they can have all these characters, but if strider isn’t in it… it still makes me feel incomplete.

they need to add spiral and jin and hayato and strider and ruby heart and amingo and bb hood am i forgetting anyone

I like every single one of your choices, especialy Tessa. Fund it.