So… Is anyone going to try out the new character? I think she has some potential for crazy mix-ups. But I think she could also give Ibuki some trouble at the same time.
she is like the “Seth” female version but without the low heath. she got lots of moves from cammy, a 3 frame Ultra, a better Dalsim Ultra, a one hundred hand lighting move that could push you into a corner, an awesome command dash that is way better than Ibuki (its projectile invincible, you can follow up moves after it, you can dash in the air, its more ambiguous, etc…), she got target combos that can juggle, she can super jump cancel and more since she’s only 85% complete @_@;;;;
the command dash is not projectile invisible but you can dash over fireballs if timed properly, you cannot dash in the air other then back jump into spiral arrow. I think the ex command dash is invinsible but only in the backwords direction. She can ground pound, divekick or fall after an upwards command dash. she cannot super jump cancel, she can regular jump cancel her close hk like yun can on his close s.mk.
She has no combos. The combo video that combofiend showed off is obsolete since she can no longer do grounded spiral arrows, not to mention the video itself showed off her bread and butter combo which was some lame generic c.mp c.mp dp combo. So in terms, she has no damage other than her ultra 2 which might be part of the logic as to why its 3 frames apart from its anti air speed. If anything, we are seeing another El Fuerte style character with no vortex. Not to mention she is a charge character so her offence isnt as good as akuma or el fuerte himself.
85% complete means they are not finished nerfing her to pair her up to the rest of the cast, not: “they still need to add more to the character”. Unless your talking about her animations and fixing that terrible skin they gave her which i would welcome any day of the week.
ok, that’s good to know. All the info I got was from second hand and eventhub.
"• She can perform target combos as well, one of which puts the opponent into a juggle state."
"• Command dashes have a red line as a visual indication of which she is using. The EX version of ground command dash can be used to escape pressure after she’s knocked down. ComboFiend notes that she has escape options that don’t necessarily lead to attacks, but will get her out of harm’s way."
watching the first to 3 video with Hart and combofiend seem like some crazy OP stuff to me…
I know I will be for sure, she looks like a lot of fun.
Anybody see the long set of Ebihara vs Wao? BlackVegeta just posted it. I’ve never heard of this guy before, but apparently he’s the no. 3 Ibuki over there. He plays this matchup quite straight (almost boringly) but his neutral is strong, and his reactions are top notch. Did any of you know Kazegiri could juggle from a LK Tsumuji air hit? I had no idea, and yet he does it twice in the set without hesitation!
He almost makes LK Tsumuji look like a fireball. Almost. It really comes back to bite him later on though. Ebihara is also damn brave. So many dash ins to throw or Cr. LK. Not many unblockables (or setups that aren’t very well known here actually).
One thing I noticed a lot, Wao would use DP to get the reset during kunai mixups, and even though Ebihara pressed HK everytime, it never juggled! Is Oni just that weird when he falls? If so, that’s something to watch out for.
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LK Tsumuji to Kaze juggle
F. HP whiff punish with St. MK SJC U2
Countless Tsumuji loops on arcade machine at every opportunity (you can’t select plink in the arcade right?)
Consecutive perfects by Wao very late in the set totaling 25 seconds (TWENTY FIVE)
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Yeah lk tsumuji is pretty strong to the point you can zone out people like a close range ex fireball would. You never see ibukis use it because it doesn’t lead into the vortex. A few ibukis including myself have mentioned to use it like a fireball, it has all the consequences of one too where it can be easily jumped over too.
You can even zone out fei long with it. It’s a really interesting footsies battle if you try to do that… Fei long can’t get in on you unless he jumps OR uses c.hp which completely stuffs lk tsumuji and goes under. However you can bait it out and then sweep the c.hp. And finally the rekkas beat your sweep. It’s and interesting footsies battle. Same thing goes for other members if the cast.
Lk tsumuki launches if it connects with airborne opponents, so yes you can kazegiri afterwords. You can also radia and ultra afterwords. I remember seeing sako use lk tsumuji on a rose on the corner. The rose back dashed and got hit on the second tsumuji hit and he went straight into the ultra.
You can also juggle from an ex kunai on airborne opponents too. So what you will usually see is ex kunai land dash forward lk kazegiri since they are too far to just combo from regularly. It feels pretty manly when you do it.
WAO was not using dp to get juggled from kunais. He was using that chun li stomp thing which set him to airborne immediately which causes the kunai to juggle. You can follow it up with a close s.hk sjc cd into whatever but the have to juggle close enough into you to actually connect. Alternatively, you can go straight into a hk kazegiri for damage or raida for a setup.
There’s a few characters that can get out if mixups by getting juggled from a kunai on wake up. Characters like Viper or Oni have instant airborne moves that will cause them to get juggled immediately. Characters like Yang and Cammy don’t have enough invincibility on their dps and will get hit by the Kunai if they try to dp out of it. Yang will get juggled because he will be airborne and Cammy will get hit and stay grounded. Characters with enough invincibility will go trough the kunai leaving them open for a big punish.
Cammy is a little harder to do but if timed properly it can be done from the vortex or a reset.
I may sound like a total showoff, but plinkless tsumuji loops aren’t hard at all. Believe it or not, chances are you have been hitting the 1 frame link all this time and don’t even need the select button to hit them. I found this out when I have to use someone else’s stick for a tournament or casuals. I turn off the PPP button and then play normally. I didn’t drop a single tsumuji loop, I played it thinking I had a select button on it. However, I CANNOT hit the 1 frame link consistently if I try to do it without hitting ppp button, I guess my muscle memory isn’t accustomed to that, I’ll usually land it like 50 % of the time if I try that method.
Ah I see. I didn’t know the stomp was instantly airborne. I figured that it was DP based on examples I’ve seen of Sagat doing the same thing, but of course, the Kunai was probably not meaty in that case. Ebihara’s st. HK never connected once though, even though he realised Wao was just doing the stomp to get reset. There was nothing he could do. Committing to Raida or Kazegiri is more than I would be willing to risk to be honest, and it seems he thought the same.
I don’t plink loops either (can’t, until someone figures out a way to rewire a pad). There are days where I hit 75% and days where I hit 25%. The latter are far more common.
When wao was in SoCal for SCR I played him after WNF. He thinks Ibuki is a bad matchup for Oni and it seemed like it when we played. He also didn’t know about Ibuki’s unblockable after ex neckbreaker because he kept trying to dp out of the set up and had to ask if it was unblockable. I’m surprised I did very well against him because I remember he beat Sako’s Ibuki 3-0 but it could’ve been because he was sandbagging. We only played a 2 out of 3 set though so it’s not enough games for me to confidently say who wins.
I’m pretty sure I saw Wao do delayed wakeup uppercut to beat her unblockables, but now I guess he has been trying to do reversal uppercut and somehow got an accident delayed uppercut.
Something weird I found messing around in the lab
hi everyone i really need your advice i feel like i hit a wall with ibuki 
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i recently met an exceptional player and i got to play offline with him but with everything i know about ibuki ( safe jumps, unblockables and vortex ) i felt like he is a wall in front of me, i can’t whiff a normal i front of him without getting punished for it, if i get a knockdown he knows how block/escape the kunai vortex, he tech throws standing!! i got grabbed alot when trying to frame trape him 
, he rarely jumps in a match and he was using all kind of characters.
For stand tech throw there’s this classic Sako trap - c.lp, walk back TC9 xx whatever. Block adv after crouching jab lets you back off for his throw to whiff and then whiff punish yourself with target combo into special.
Also try to frametrap with f.hk.
im thinking of picking this char for right now and ultra should i?
Ultra SFIV Final Changelist released.
Yes… YESSS!
This was wished for by some previously, and it has been delivered. Not only is cr.LK, cr.LP now a 2f link instead of 1f, we also have such a scary 3f punisher.
Does this mean M Tsumuji loop is no longer a 2 frame link? Guess that means no more easy-mode loops on the fatties.
You can still do it with L Tsumuji.
I’m i the only one to think that Ibuki will look even better with this changes?
MK tsumuji will be useless? Oh well, I never used it lol. Unnecessary nerf that doesn’t affect anything significant IMO.
Of course Ibuki will be better. If you go to an Edition Select tournament, there’s no reason to NOT use USF4 Ibuki. DWU won’t be a problem if you’re good with her, though people have the illusion of DWU being a heavy nerf for Ibuki.
Tsujigoe is like an empty jump now, you’ll be safe when you land 
Wonder if you can use EX Red focus from st.mk to crumple. Would make some long combos on Abel lol, and being able to combo into U1 with full animation.
I think I will use Double Ultra for DP characters because of the -5 DP FADC change. U1 to punish FADC fwd dash and U2 to punish FADC backdash.
You’re correct i though about it too and, i might go all the way with all the cast probably, Yoroitoshi is still her real ultra, and sometimes ppl do commit mistakes that Yoroistoshi would punish, even if i use hashinsho most of the time.
The real reason as to why MK tsumuji got delayed 1 frame is because now she has a safe jump from it. She used to have it before mk tsumuji into s.lk into jump, then it got accidentally removed once they buffed s.lk to 4 frames instead of 5. You can thank Mingo for that change.
I played USF4 in Texas Showdown. Ibuki is still definitely strong. I tried to find set ups for vortex like jumps and kunais but failed miserably. However, there’s a way to cheat the system. Ibukis neckbreakers are slow enough on knockdown that you can just pay attention to what your opponent is doing by looking at what hes pressing or listening to if he hit a button or not and then react to that. What I ended up doing is holding forward while looking at my opponents hands, since they have to press two buttons as soon as they land, I can hear them pressing it and see it. And then delay or not delay the kunai afterwords. For some reason they got hit by the kunai every single time. As if they were expecting that it would solve all their problems. lol.
However, before actually finding that out, I did play a vortex-less ibuki. She is still pretty good and mixup heavy, you just need to think about your mixups now. I caught a lot of people with empty jump low and setups into option select overhead if they delay the wake up. Her new crouching jab is godlike. For some reason it makes it so that every time you get pressured you can hit that button and get a counter hit. It also helps a bit with c.lk into combo and dive kicks.
Red focus was kinda funky. To fight against. I had an opponent trying to make it work and I hit him 3 times and then try to throw, and for some reason Ibuki was always too far to throw him. In that case just combo straight into raida.
By the way. You can already Ultra 1 characters that try fadc forward on reversal. Most are -1 or -2. I think fadc back are still the same. I don’t think U2 will catch them in time.