Lets talk about basic snap action switches, and mods!

Tech Talk
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Came across this while looking for Namco stick replacements, figured it was worth a resurrection. Lots and lots of Omron options, with a guide on how to decipher the model numbers. EDIT: pdf file https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=yGj-U6LHC4HnoATkr4LoBQ&url=http://www.components.omron.com/components/web/pdflib.nsf/0/FE0F8E8EEB5D725485257201007DD573/%24file/V_1110.pdf&cd=1&ved=0CCoQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNHFZxDwZrWqyXp_ic19lTNaQvsYuw

I wonder what a 400gf switch equipped lever would feel like?

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I use that reference all the time when I need to shop for switches. 400 gf would be double what a JLF is which is 200 gf. It would be pretty rough handling that.

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New Omron V-15-1C25’s (SPDT, .187", 200gf) and V-16G2-1C25’s (SPDT, .5mm contact gap, lever, .187", 200gf) are on order, looking forward to trying the levered switches out in everything I can fit them in.

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Where do you normally shop for them? I ordered from Digi-Key.

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Usually mouser.com, unless another site has some obscure version of a switch in stock. Usually they don’t so I just stick to mouser. Mouser has always been fast and reliable for me.

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Do levered switches work well for non bat top joysticks? I was under the impression that someone (me) using a wineglass grip wouldn’t like them much. I’ve never actually used them.

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Levers tend to make diagonals a bit easier and they shorten the engage distance by a hair or two. Very scientific measurements, I know.

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Using a bat or a ball top makes no difference in switch/lever operation.

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Easier diagonals really depends on the design. The Happ Super is a nice feeling levered American stick, but the diagonal zones are pretty tiny and easy to miss.

@Cagan most sticks do use levered microswitches, for instance all Seimitsu sticks.

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Gotcha. Unfortunately I would have to dremel my hayabusa in order to get levered switches to fit. I’m thinking about buying some cherry and omeron switches just to try out and see if I like them more than the default switches in the hori.

Also, does anyone have any advice for putting a cherry switch back together? I have all the parts but its just so hard.

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Reassembling switches is delicate work, but it’s just reversing the disassembly. You could try some Diazepam, like Solid Snake.*

Spoiler

*Don’t try this at home, kids.

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I know where everything goes. The problem is that I just can’t do it. Is there any particular order of operations that makes everything easier for kittens?

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I hear Sriracha smoke works just as well.

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Actually I may want something a little quieter. The HHS is loud as balls. According to the research I did the switches that come in the HHS are 200g. The only quiet switches I can find even close to that are the omeron D2RV-G’s, which are only 125g. Is there nothing a little closer? Or maybe I’ll just try the 125’s.

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The Hayabusa isn’t loud because of the switches. It’s loud because of the gate. Are you planning on soldering new switches on the the Busa’s PCB?

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You can’t just plug them in? IF you can’t just plug them in then I won’t even bother trying new ones out. I think I’m actually really happy with the kowal actuator and LS-32 spring.

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And here I thought there was going to be some nice scientific switch talk :frowning:

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I know :frowning:

No.

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I guess we can’t have it all at SRK’s Tech Talk. :slight_smile:

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Haven’t opened mine in a while, but I thought I remembered the Hayabusa’s switches being connected with .187 QD’s, meaning you should be able to swap switches without soldering.