Learning this game in a vaccuum

After my most recent instance of nearly throwing my stick through my monitor, I am wondering if it’s possible to just learn a character without losing a million times online and not finding anything out. I usually play on PC because I can never get a decent connection on my ps3 and then it’s usually I’m just hanging out in training mode because I don’t know anyone else who plays near me. I guess I’m rambling but I’m just frustrated. Sorry if this is the wrong place for this, I usually just read stuff on here.

Which game are you talking about?

you need to loose a million times because thru loss is how you learn the most. How are u supposed to know something wont work until someone stuffs your attacks

Like others said, which game are you talking about? The process is much more enjoyable and you learn faster if you have a training buddy though. Fighting random people online who who make random descisions where literally anything can come at anytime is very frustrating for a player that genuinely wants to improve. Overall you lose alot before starting to win, it’s the nature of the genre but like i said the process can be made much more enjoyable.

I 2nd the training buddy thing. Also, it’s important to be playing a character your thoroughly enjoy playing and want to get better with. When I started on UMVC3 it was miserable going until I found a team I actually had fun with, even when losing.

Playing on PC or anywhere online is hardly a vacuum.
Write a message with “gg” or “well played” every once in a while when you had good games but happened to lose and you’ll have a full friend list in no time.

Have people that are much better than you and people on your own level and play long sets against them.
When I play against those 4k pp people on my friend list and lose 20 or 30 to 0 and play ranked matches afterwards, I usually shit all over people on my pp/bp level.

Do the same for other people who suck and keep the community strong by levelling yourself and others up.

In anything competitive, losing is just as awesome as winning, you learn more.

I forgot to add it was AE, my bad. I just ended up playing Ryu for the rest of the day, still losing to nonsense. I guess I was just at critical mass when it came to salt earlier. I would love to fight people better than me, because at least I lose to normal stuff instead of people mashing like it’s their job. Also it’s real great when someone with 4-5k doesn’t respect a player like myself. Oh well.

Answer is simple, play the player not the character. There is no losing to nonsense , only losing.

Playing a masher? Play conservative punish mistakes with baits and traps. Playing a turtle? Play patient yourself. Playing an aggressive player? Use your Dp to send a message that your not going to take any shit.

The bad news is it takes years to get good at Street Fighter through hard work. To answer your question, you won’t learn anything without playing people. I suggest small rooms of no more than 3 people including yourself. Big sets against character specialists and learn the subtleties of match ups and spacing slowly. I’ve been playing SF4 since release and I’m still learning.

Dump ranked and any attachment you have to dumb PP points if you want to get better. Also winning isn’t as important as understanding why you got beat. Video replay’s of your character on a sub forum for critique are a good place to start. There’s no shame in asking for advice, 9 out of 10 players are usually top blokes if you approach them correctly.

One day, you’re gonna get good enough to learn that your LOSSES are way more important than your wins. Losing is what makes you go back to training mode, re-watch your matches, and reflect on the things that you did or didn’t do which caused you to lose. Winning doesn’t make you better at the game, it only gives you ego. If you’re looking for an easy win for no hard work, then play one of those FPS games that everybody complains about for being too scrub-friendly nowadays. If you want to get a win that feels satisfying because every little move & decision you made, everything you remembered and planned before the match, and every button you chose to press contributed to your victory, then this is the game for you.

  1. Forget about your ranked points, they don’t matter.

One time I lost all my PP on purpose just because I wanted to fight lower ranked players, but they wouldn’t play me due to my high amount of points. All I wanted to do was train against them with one of my weaker characters, haha

  1. Watch players that are better than you with your character. Try to understand why they do the things that they do, and then see if you can pull it off yourself

  2. Play long sets with one person. Try to get like 10 games in with someone that is at your level or even better than you. The point of doing this is that you’ll start to see the things you do that work well, and the things you do that don’t work so well. It’ll expose all of your little tactics that you THOUGHT were good, but really weren’t. Every long set that I’ve played has leveled me up way more than training mode ever did.

nobodys gonna play with you in endless until you’re like 2k+ pp . higher level players are always gonna look down on you for jumping too much or not blocking properly. you’ll find patterns to wins and losses eventually, just play with better attention to your inputs. follow yourself on the replay channel so you can look back on matches where you made the right decisions.

Well that’s not really true, you might get one or two players skip you but I recently moved to PC where I currently have 0PP from XBL where I had around 4000PP. As long as you prove yourself it shouldn’t matter what your points are. Well as long as your playing someone sane that is. You can instantly tell if someone is good or bad usually.

In fact I find it more satisfying when your playing someone and they are totally disrespecting you because of your points status whilst your smacking them silly.

I never said I was looking for easy wins, but when some guy uses turbo to get those HHS out or just does full screen ultras, that’s what I’m stuck playing against because 3k, almost 13k with my Sakura isn’t good enough to get some respect. I never had much of a scene where I was from, just me and like two guys who were better than me with families and stuff, so I was on my own. So I did my homework and learned some stuff only to get hate mail and bullshit thrown at me when I win. But that’s just the internet and it’s all I have.

Didn’t you say you had a fightstick? Funny, back when I was at your level, I fought this Sakura on XBL that beat me so badly in Ranked, that I got pissed off and slammed my fist on my fightstick… I hit the thing so hard that the Start button popped out, and this was a $160 Qanba Q4 Stick that I had bought recently.

Long story short, Sakura is a character that will get you a lot of hatemail around the 3000 PP level, and you should not be shocked to see people sending you hatemail for playing Sakura at that level.

Excuse me, but I was under the impression that you were a Zero PP / Zero BP-having SF4 noob. Never mind some of the things that I said before. But I still say that you will get better, just ignore the haters and do whatever you feel like.

No offense taken :slight_smile: I think what kills me is the fact that they pick the wrong answers to her nonsense and it’s my fault. Heaven forbid they do the same research I do. All the junk I get makes me want to start a thread highlighting their colorful language and such.

No, it sounds like you’re the better player already. Don’t bring yourself down to their level now by putting their scrubbiness on camera. They don’t even deserve that, just make them hold that L. #GG #NotReally #NoRematch #Bye haha forget about them