Laverne Cox becomes first transgender person on cover of Time Magazine

What’s so special about this guy? Did he even do anything to warrant being on here other than simply being a trantran?

From the OP

Try reading the thread next time.

You know what really grinds my gears? People trying to force you to change the way you personally perceive gender because they’d rather you call them by their preferred pronoun.

Because gender isnt sex. So if you appear as a woman then your gender is female. You must not know the difference between biological sex and gender.

Blue is gender specific for boys.
Having a penis is sex specific for boys.

If that makes sense to you. You refer to a transsexual woman with a womans pronoun.

Now go be ignorant someplace else.

What?

If you are a female, you are a female. There’s no arguing that. This is nothing to do with appearance. If you got the socket, you got the socket. If you got the plug, you got the plug. Male. Female. There’s no argument there, it’s a statement of fact. That’s sex.

But whether you are a he or a she, or whatever bullshit Tumblr can think of, is what is debatable. It’s why you can refer to a ship as “she”. Nobody is making the case that Mother Russia is physically female. That’s gender.

If I perceive you as masculine, I will refer to you in masculine terms. If you are free to come to your own personal definitions of gender, than I am also entitled to do the same. I don’t have to change my perception to make you feel comfortable.

By that logic you can call a masculine appearing biological woman a he.

We have already established you DONT know the difference between gender and sex. So theres really no point in bothering to insert yourself into this discussion.

No.

Your definition of gender is not solely based upon what the person/object looks like. A tractor doesn’t look very much like a woman at all but you can still correctly refer to one in feminine terms.

lol my bad. I’m still waking up and it’s early as fuck right now. Good on him I guess. I still think that trannies should have the decency to tell their partners about what they are before shit gets real.

I don’t think anyone is going to argue that point, nor have they…

I think everyone will agree they should be up front about it (As anyone should be up front about their quirks and oddities) and that not being up front with it is a huge betrayal of trust.

And yet you continue by implying that a transsexual and a tractor are the same if you want to refer to one with female pronouns even though neither one was born biologically female.

Would you like to share any more nuggets of sheer idiocy while youre at it? Or are you done for now?

My point is that gender is a perception. What’s your point?

I refuse to accept that. If you are born a man no matter what you change on your body you will always be a man. The same goes for a woman.

You know, I actually think that is fine, I think mowrs initial point is fine to, so long as it’s not used to belittle, harm, or degrade those who feel different from you (And vice versa as well) and that you can you can put those feeling aside and have the respect to refer to someone the way they wish to to be referred to as, even if not seeing eye to eye on the politics of the situation.

Fortunately the issue isnt about what you want to call them, its about them getting the rights of biological men and women. Which is what is slowly happening. Lol.

Okay, so is your position that “if you have a dick, you are a he, if you have a vagina, you are a she”? I just want to understand where this is at.

I browsed through the article. I’m torn, you have the right to feels the way you feels, but @ 6 year old, your hormones are ‘minimal’. It’s all gravy right now, but what happens when ‘they’ start developing? Who’s to say that the current perception isn’t because of outside influences and not truly natural, thus @ 11 plus when things are happening, the kids going to be totally confused? The same way you get tried as a ‘minor’ with a lesser punishment at those younger ages is because you really don’t know any better. I’m not sitting here saying the ‘she’ isn’t a ‘he’, but I do NOT like the parents ‘embracing it beyond a phase’. If she’s a tomboy for a while, let her be, but they are driving ‘her’ in the direction of being a boy. If when nature starts maturing her, she still feels like she should have a penis - so be it, she can be he - I don’t really care, but as the father of a 3 year old who interacts with 5 and 6 year olds, they say and do stuff like that all the time and simply don’t know any different/better. A girl will say she’s a boy simply because the boys she is around are playing with things she wants to play with or identifies with, not because she has some fundamental understanding that she should have a penis and date women when she’s older.

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Wow I must of hurt your feelings somehow :sad:

It’s a funny world when hurt feelings are more important than preventing death

Transgendered children arent children who say “I am a boy” when they are a girl. They are emotional, depressed, withdrawn, suicidal. Unable to be social and connect with other people when not able to live life as the opposite gender.

I think that the parents are more confused than the children. NBC have done several specials on transgendered children over the course of several years and when they begin puberty as their biological sex, they take steps to look more like the gender they identify as regardless. When they are of age to begin hormone replacement therapy then they do that and it becomes the past.

Theres a lot of information on this. Slightly frustrating to hear questions and responses to things that have been addresses time and time again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ

I don’t understand what you mean honestly. Who passed these laws for LGBT like gay marriage? The actual gays who wanted it? Or the people in Congress (‘people who are stronger than them’)? That’s my point.

@‌jimmy1200 –

Thanks for getting the point. I kinda get their reaction though. Pederasty is one of the last thing left they can still viciously attack with a good conscience. You can’t say anything about gays, blacks, women, trannies, etc., without catching shit for it these days. Yet you can say you want to decapitate a paedo and noone bats an eyelash (more like they cheer for the violence). Any sort of cruel and unusual punishment is suddenly justified. Yet noone even notices their blatant hypocrisy. It doesn’t take a lot of courage to attack pederasty, if anything it takes more courage to defend it or attempt to sympathise with it considering the ‘tolerant masses’ will become extremely intolerant when you do that like this thread demonstrates. Part of the problem is they confuse ‘paedophilia’ with ‘violent forceful rape of a child’ and have no intention of correcting this mistake. If anything it’s the exact opposite of that. There are plenty of guys who rape children but aren’t paedophiles. ‘Rape’ in this case, being the ‘violent forceful’ kind and not the ‘everyone involved is willing, but it’s still rape, I guess’ kind.

I think the system in the past, worked a lot better. Things were just a lot easier. Guys approached a girl (or vice-versa) they found attractive despite their age and if the family and the girl were okay with this then there were no problems. As opposed to now where it’s too easy to get into trouble when dealing with romantic relationships.

Not sure how people think homosexuality/transsexualism is less disgusting than pederasty. At least the latter still has a chance at reproduction (which is the main purpose of sex). (PC note: I actually don’t think the former are disgusting. My deceased cousin was gay, some transsexuals actually look passable, etc.)

How is it easily picked apart? I’m not trying to be provocative (notice how I didn’t insult anyone until they were rude to me first). I’m genuinely saying how I feel about the issues I mentioned so if I’m wrong, please correct me. I feel that if you have to ask for anything, you’re already in the weaker position to the person you’re asking in that circumstance. They are essentially asking for some group of guys to give them ‘rights’. They’re practically admitting that they’re weaker than them. And ‘demanding’ is just asking in an unkind way but it’s still asking. What would they really have done if the marriage laws did not pass in their state? Try asking again later? Go pout about it on their blog? Or in other words: annoy, annoy, annoy, until they get what they want. That’s just the way the democratic system works these days, you get rewarded for whining the most. I could be wrong but that’s the way I currently see it. You’d never hear of this stuff in a dictatorship, the first ‘no’ would be the last one.

Why would gays even want to get married anyway? Especially now of all times? They didn’t see how well that worked out for heterosexuals? Interesting thing about that, apparently gay men are happier in relationships than lesbians. Women lead divorce in heterosexual and homosexual marriages. That demonstrates that they are the weak-link in relationships and you’d be foolish to trust them with anything important.

@Ki Shima: I didn’t explain myself properly?