Latveria shall ever be Latveria- Dr Doom thread 2.0

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Good looks Cheech!

Funny that you mention Champ not doing it because I only asked after seeing him doing it. I think it’s really vital with Doom as anchor; when it comes down to a one-on-one situation and the opponent has X-Factor this helps leaps to run the X-Factor time down.

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Ahh so he has started doing it. Makes sense now that hes been playing that point Doom Team. Doom players in general should add it to their arsenal though.

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For anyone playing Magneto-a/Doom-b, I found some cool blockstrings with disruptor. If this awkward for some people, keep in mind I am a MVC2 player and I used many of these types of blockstrings in that game.

  1. [Call Magneto > j.:f::h: xx delayed ADDF]
    {Scenarios}
  • On Hit: Both moves combo, meaning you get full combos both in the corner or midscreen if you cancel the footdive into ADDF. Also works with the opponent normal jumping.
  • Close Enough to Opponent in the Air: Doom grabs, Magneto doesn’t come out, meaning you can use the assist later.
  • On Block and Pushblocked in the Corner: Don’t get pushblocked, Magneto covers you while you land. Then follow up with:
    [LIST]
    []Whiffed tri-dash j.:l: into grab.
    [    ]Tri-dash into low cr.:l:.
    [*]Box-dash into j.:m:.
    [/LIST]
  1. [Call Magneto > cr.:h: xx dash xx jump xx ADDF]
    {Scenarios}
  • On Hit: Combos, you get a full combo midscreen and in the corner is you got the low (combo with cr.:l: > cr.:m: > :s: ). It can also work if you go for the box dash j.:m:, but requires a lot more timing.
  • On Block and Pushblocked Midscreen: Only thing worth doing here is doing a double dash into tri-dash and then go for a low or a grab. Requires good execution.
  • On Block and Pushblocked Corner: You don’t get pushblocked, Magneto covers you while you land. You can follow up with:
    [LIST]
    []Whiffed tri-dash j.:l: into grab.
    [    ]Tri-dash into low cr.:l:.
    [*]Box-dash into j.:m:.
    [/LIST]
    The blockstrings work regardless of what normals come before the necessary normal. For example, you could input cr.:l: > Magneto Assist > cr.:h: fast and still get the full options the blockstring gives you.
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Hi sorry, if this has been touched upon, but what exactly does Marlinpie do with his incoming character setup that doesn’t allow him to be grabbed if they XF?

ie: justin wong Akuma coming in, marlinpie does j.M and justin uses XF, but Doom still grabs him.

Is this an option select? Like j.M, addf immediately.

EDIT: Also, why is it sometimes when you do a meaty M or L on incoming chars, the pushback either a lot or nothing at all. I’m not understanding the advance guard system

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I found this OS today.

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Thoughts?

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James chen tweeted something about kara canceling j.S into airdash.

Fly > j.S xx dash > j.M

there, Magneto/Storm’s j.S out of flight. If it works that is. James gets stuff wrong now and then.

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Way of topic, but the first thing I noticed when I entered the Doom forum was a bunch of threads with just one or zero reply… My sympathies to you Doom forum veterans.

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This is most likely a form of passive protest to the flood of repeated questions that have arisen multiple times throughout the stickied threads. The most frequently asked question being how to continue Doom’s MM F+H S loop midscreen (which posters have been kind enough to answer again and again). Most of those threads have been answered, addressed or discussed within the last 6 pages of this thread alone.

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What are some SOLO incoming character set ups you guys use? For an incoming character after you kill one and set ups after a snap back? Im curious to see what people do cuz i need help with this lol

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Well this is interesting, ill see if I can make something similar work with akuma assist, thanks for posting.

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Check the video i posted 3 posts above you

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I see champ doing hidden missles super on incoming a lot but I can’t seem to cancel hidden missles, when I do it the missles have way to much recovery, what am I doing wrong?

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Is he doing it with only one meter? If so he’s canceling with team super. Like canceling wesker otg super

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Aaaah that makes sense

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So how does one start their offense with doom? I think Im decent at creating space and protecting sentinel and akuma when I call them, but I don’t really know how to start my offense if you get what I mean. All the combos I perform either start from stray foot dives or throws(which is pretty much a universal tool), I’ve never actually started a combo with a cr.:l: which tells me I don’t actually know how to mount an offense with him.

My team is doom/sent/akuma

Im guessing I could implement some of this into my team, especially with doom/akuma.

EDIT: Also, what purpose does molecular shield serve? I’ve been trying to implement it into my game to no real success.

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Have you used air Photon Shots and air Plasma Beam to start your offense? Also, as Cheech mentioned in a earlier post, you can do air Photon Shot L, S foot-dive to land before the lasers, and then do the “Doom shuffle” (cancel dash halfway into a tridash). Call Sent when doing the dash and you have time to set up mixups.

Molecular Shield seems more like a close-range Drones if you ask me. I think it’s a good assist for corner lockdown, but it’s still overshadowed by other assists.

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Thanks, ill add that to my game, should take a lil practice to get down but doesn’t seem too complicated. And no I meant the molecular shield on point, not the assist lol.

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Oh, about using it on point, the only use I see for it is for chip damage in the corner if the Level 3 didn’t kill a character. Other than that, as the guide said, it’s just a combo extender. Though there’s also this tech that involves H Molecular Shield: Latveria shall ever be Latveria- Dr Doom thread 2.0

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For any point Doom users, I tried using st.L in the start of the round today and it worked surprisingly well. I walked back and did st.L xx L plasma beam against a Magneto that was walking forward mashing H. The hitbox of st.L anti airs very nicely if they are trying to get above you and it starts up in 5 frames which is very fast. Seems pretty good.

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Ill test that out because all I do at the start of the round is mash back :h: while calling akuma.

I was also meaning to ask, what do you guys use for your incoming mix-ups? At the moment all I do is call sentinel(or akuma if they are in the corner) and fire off the butter gun. This catches them if they come in mashing, but it isn’t really a mix-up, if just helps me maintain pressure. I was practicing and I noticed dooms :f: :h: usually crosses up in the corner so I was thinking maybe I could use that in conjunction with sentinel or akuma but Im not really sure how to. So yea, you guys mind sharing your incoming mix-ups?