Ugh! My head. 52 Earths are all conected? Need my pain killers. WHERE ARE MY FREAKING PAIN KILLERS?!?!:annoy: Man, I’m afraid to even try to comprehend if that stuff even makes sense.
Infinite Crisis seems to have kicked Superman: Brithright out of the continuity park. As of now, Supes has no origin. Well, actually, we know what his origin is, as Zephy said, but hey, that’s not good enough for DC. They gotta complicate da heck outta things. Sigh. Such faggotry.
Zephy, you read that arc in Superman/Batman about Supergirl? But I thought you hated those stories in the book’s early run.
Yeah, I read it. Back when I was in school, my roommate and one of my other friends collected it. The three of us would go to the store every Wednesday and always just read whatever the other two guys bought.
I don’t think the Supergirl arc is good, but I will admit that it is readable when compared to even worse crap, like a Daniel Way comic. I would still advice against spending money on it, but if you like Loeb’s work in the first arc, the rest of his stuff is basically more of the same. It is something to read if you want to know “what happens” but it’s not really anything that will expand your mind or make you feel good that you read it.
The best Superman/Batman arc Loeb wrote was the future one. I think the TPB is called Absolute Power. It still has the overly cutesy narration, but at least the plot is entertaining.
You mean how their narration is separated by color scheme, and how each character always happens to be thinking something that precisely compares and contrasts with what the other character is thinking at the same time? Yeah… that was a cheesy bit of fun at first, but it’s a shame to hear they continued it after the first story arc. It definitely ran its course.
And the first arc is total ass crap. I’ll check out Absolute Power.
Yeah, the compare/contrast thing works in small doses. But doing it on every single page for a couple years’ worth of issues? Not such a great idea.
Despite that, and despite the silliness of suggesting John Corben (aka Metallo) was the murderer of Thomas and Martha Wayne, I was enjoying the first arc of that series… until issue 6 completely jumped the shark. Okay, a new Toyman, cool. But… A giant robot that’s half Superman, half Batman? And Captain Atom has to pilot it into a giant Kryptonite meteor? Really? The dude can build a giant, working mecha that looks like a '60s Silver Age throwback character, but can’t implement an autopilot? Opening issue 6 and seeing that giant robot… That’s probably the first time I truly understood the term “jumping the shark.”
It’s too bad because I like McGuinness’ art but only when he draws something I can enjoy reading.
Then there was that terrible Pat Lee standalone issue with Robin and Superboy. That is seriously worse than a Rob Liefeld comic to me.
What else was there? That final arc where McGuinness returned and Loeb created “The Maximums” as a thinly veiled version of the Ultimates. How lame was that? He must’ve read the first Millar/Quitely Authority arc and thought he could’ve topped it. Nope. Toss in a universe of Bizarros, including a Batzarro, and then Mxyzptlk and Batmite, and that was just an old fashioned train wreck - you know, the kind where the train falls off the cliff because some railroad operator forgot to switch the tracks.
I thought the thing with Parallax was down right fucking brilliant because not only does it set up the Green Lanterns again, but it deepends the mythos substantially by allowing many facets of the comic to be explored deeper. Johns even explained the grey hair and yellow impurity. The impurity is basically fear, which is the exact opposite of true willpower, which powers the rings. I thought that shit was brilliant. And I don’t even like Hal Jordan.
Final Crisis is going to come out next year. Will it be the last? The title seems to imply it, but it’s DC, so who knows.
But if there’s any Crisis that can end up being good, it’ll be Final Crisis. Grant Morrison and J.G. Jones, together again! I hope we get the Morrison on LSD that worked on all his good comics and not the StraightEdge Morrison who worked on 52.
I think Morrison said that the story was a story he wanted to tell since his JLA days, so it’s not like Final Crisis is completely just editorially mandated. That’s why I have hope.
Skrulls are just free-reign for retcon. Oh, you didn’t like Cap’merica being killed? UM…it was a Skrull…yeah… No matter what happens, they can always go the “it was a Skrull” route and bring back the dead, or use it as a quickie explanation for a certain character’s actions.
What. The. EXPLETIVE DELETED!!:annoy: Man, that may be worse than all of DC’s bad retcons put together.
I was wondering when they were gonna bring Captain America back. Let’s bring back Betty Ross too. Skrull. Let’s get Harry Osborn while we’re at it. Skrull. F you, Marvel. :arazz:
Yeah Betty is alive like Zeph said. And Skrulls haven’t been used as a retcon device yet since only Elektra’s been outed so relax for now. Marvel already stated that Captain America and Iron Man will not be Skrulls.
How’d they bring Betty Rose back? Was it in a good way or a crapy way?
With what JMS has done with Aunt May, I’m glad she’s back but whatever moron decided to have the “May” that died be an actress… well that was just ultra gay.
Marvel had to bring back Norman Osborn because him being behind all the clone crap was the only way to get them out of that mess. So I saw his resurrection as a neccesary evil.
And Jean Grey is still dead? Gotta say I’m surprised. How long is Bill Foster gonna stay in the ground?
Didn’t read all of the issues, only read of it in Hulk’s Marvel Universe book but Hulk was recieving help from an online person named Mr. Blue. Mr. Blue turned out to be Betty Ross who had a new identity thanks to plastic surgery. In the end Hulk didn’t stay with her and went on the run. They touch upon some of it at Marvel.com.