Labwork: Tests, results, discoveries

I haven’t noticed being on a certain side makes it harder. Might be because I try to time the hado hitting late to keep the opponent close as possible. So I definitely do not input the hado as soon as you recover from back throw. Out of most of the cast who I have tried it on, only Elf so far required a mp hado or kara lp hado. That could be another reason.

Cl.mpxxlp.hado>ex tatsu is working on quite a few of the cast.

Welcome back 6!
I will be trying this

LMAO

My first attempt at using GIMP. Will make a better one later on. Just an observation but lp palm now moves Gouken forward slightly. Tested Ae 2012 or whatever last version is called and Gouken do not move forward at all with it.

i was in training last night and did point blank ex ball vs ex palm and they passed thru each other just enough to thru and crossup gouken after expalm startup

Cl.mpxxlp.hado>cr.mpxxlp.hado works on Elf. No idea who else yet.

Is that corner or mid screen?

i have been lab lazy…

i need some dedicated hrs back in training

i will be off work by 2200 , oops 1000pm tonight possibly on sporadically in between , since i currently work from home now

Mid screen, point blank, standing. Now with Elf in the corning you can cl.mpxxlp.hado>cl.mpxxlp.hado>cr.mpxxlp.hado.

thats real cool, he was the only character in AE that was found to be susceptible to lp>lp>lpalm off of dive kick in the corner , weekends only after 12.

more good work 6

Ok, thanks, ill try that later today or tomorrow and see on who else works too!!!

martinez do you have a capture card? some matches i want to post , i didnt load to youtube because of the problems i had with it at first…maybe 5-10 matches some yun matches too…tonight or soon if possible

Naaaaaaaa, we have to wait for our savior!!! I’m thinking about getting one, but I’m not sure yet

I’m either going to do a match breakdown or tutorial to show what I found. I think a section to break it down and a section that shows it in action in a live match would be ideal…

Would this actually help?

Just seat back, wait and see…

TBH, all the homework I’ve done has been centered around DWU, I mean there’s other stuff but that’s mainly it b/c I didn’t want to change the way I did things too much.

Then again, @Climaxter and @Risemix may have a great point that people might not be ready for that or it doesn’t fit the way that they want to play.

shrugs

Ive had alot of that as you do in old ass thru AE vids and only a handful of goukens have come forward asking me anything, I would say hold off …

or let me help contribute LOL! like with a lil portion you can put me in smallprint idgaf lol>? Call it " MAKE EM DRINK"- Trollture friendly v 1.0 … you can chop a sick lil intro sample and some beat or I could throw in some minor trackage if needed…idk LOL !!! DAMN if i had a copy of sf4 vanilla I could bring them old vids where I started using mk>sweep same as you were at that time

I guess most want frontside safejumps>blockstrings and dont feel confident pushing the envelope since they havent ever gotten ambig/h2b gflip dk>sweep> ambig gflip dk>sweep… ambig/h2b> ambig down yet. Perhaps they just dont feel safe in knockdown vortex ranges etc…Some have told me things like “bro your gouken just goes in " or " you dont give a crap and just attack that wakeup” , like you and others , we feel comfortable here bottom line,

We theorized/stumbled upon in vailla serendipitously, by super I started to explore, by AE i was fearless knew them shits like the back of my hand…hahahah…I might have seriously disregarded other aspects like blocking and playing safe but whatever…now im making a conscious effort to play better and will try to perfect and incorporate all i know and have learned up to this point.

I just need to slow down after hardknock and it makes worlds of difference for me , of course with some choice reference materials you dropped on me( and thx btw for shortening my research time) if no one else ever utilizes it just know ya Gouken from the other Hoboken has always been down with the cause.

Ultra comes out on PC in a couple of weeks. I can’t wait to be able to hit the lab more.

I’m using KBT’s mod which could be wrong in a lot of ways so I haven’t talked about a lot of the stuff I’ve found yet. The only time I mention anything is when I used a real copy of USF4 on xbox or ps3 at a buddy’s place. I couple of weeks ago I posted a DWU setup that I think turned out to be wrong. I don’t want that to happen again so I’m waiting until I have the game in my hands now.

The delay between the digital release on consoles and the Steam release is just fucking enormous. Capcom has no respect for its PC players. What if someone on PC had wanted to practice for EVO, dude? I get that the PC community is a little behind (we’re pretty bad compared to xbox by and large) but there are a ton of good players on PC, especially in EU (KingBlackToof’s Gouken, the MDZ crew, lots of others) that are just not being respected…

So since alot of shit wasn’t working with Elena, I wanted to see what did work on her, may work on others…point blank standing, also I’ve made all of them work on crouching Elena also .

DJ.hk>clmp>clmp>ex tatsu …like a mofo too!
DJ.mk>clmp>clmp>>crlk>extatsu or lk tatsu(she falls out after first hit Rolento too)

ima use . Instead of > FUCK MY WINDOWS FONE
needs like 4 button presses to even get that greater than symbol…

djhp.clmp.clmp.crmp.extatsu ( on dekappa and rolento also)
djlk.crlp.crlp.crlp.crlp.lp or lk
djlp.crlp.crlp.crlp.crlp.lp or lk
djhp/djhk.clmp.crhp.expalm

Tested the following on Rolento:
djhp.clmp.far mp.far mp
djhp/hk.clmp.clhk
djmp/hp.clmp.lp.lk.all tatsus(need to dbl check)

and in rolentos idle animation when he stands up tall we can hit him
with djmp.ex/iat’s
on all 3 they also get hit with djhk/hp.clmp.clmp.sweep

ok its 6am gotta get some rest

edit: okay for HUGo’s big ol ass:

when he is crouch blocking late in the game and your ahead look for this strat to help…HE CANT CROUCH BLOCK 4 of Goukens DJ Normals!!!djmk and djmp dont hit him when standing point blank …but the others do djlk, djhk,djlp and djhp