Korean arcade parts discussion

[Deyhoob]

I seeeee. Is it possible to get the bat top handle alone? if so, where? thanks

[slaycruz]

I seeeee. Is it possible to get the bat top handle alone? if so, where? thanks

The way the Fujin is fastened on there is hard to unscrew without cracking it…you can maybe use a jlf shaft with a sanwa bat top in its place but I’m not sure…

[Deyhoob]

The way the Fujin is fastened on there is hard to unscrew without cracking it…you can maybe use a jlf shaft with a sanwa bat top in its place but I’m not sure…

thanks for the quick responses

[slaycruz]

The way the Fujin is fastened on there is hard to unscrew without cracking it…you can maybe use a jlf shaft with a sanwa bat top in its place but I’m not sure…

thanks for the quick responses

No problem and if ya wanna get rid of the clear top and shaft and you find a replacement for it let me know I’ll take it off your hands

[ProgressiveBalance]

I seeeee. Is it possible to get the bat top handle alone? if so, where? thanks

@Deyhoob I think if you wait a few months I think Paradise Arcade Store will stock the Golden Fanta Mod. That should include multiple diameter of shafts. This is designed to fit Sanwa LB-30-N bat-tops but not the clear LB-30-N-CW version. Both you can find from paradise arcade.

[rbuniao]

@ProgressiveBalance So the shafts in the golden fanta mod only accept battops with 10mm threading?

[Xavius]

Sent my info to you as well @wazwuz

Also quick question if we use a Sanwa bat top will we need the adapter or can we just screw it on the shaft without it? I know the clear one won’t need an adapter but the others do.

it will need adapter. so you could put clear sanwa battop or even balltop, but i’m not sure it will have the correct height.

The golden fanta shafts have 6mm threading,

[ProgressiveBalance]

You could use any bat or ball top you want but the shafts height is adjusted to fit the Sanwa LB-30-N. It should sit higher if you use another bat-top or ball-top. @rbuniao Also the Sanwa LB-30-N comes with the adapter.

[wazwuz]

thank you for the explanation. for crown Fanta without collar, I still have the crown round grommets Mold and I can provide Silicone grommet in various tension. and some actuator of course :). But since it has no collar, shaft variation won’t be needed, CMIIW.
So, 309MJ is superior than 303MJ? then on sanwa mounting arcade stick, let’s say TE1? can we install it? or we still have to make bigger holes for the short collar so it can work properly?
also is the grommet of 309MJ model is like myungshin grommet (square)?

The 309mj and 303mj are the same minus their actuator, I can get some measurements if you’d like. Both can be installed in most Japanese cases that accept a Sanwa JLF, I say most because I’ve only installed them in my old hrap3. They use the normal circular crown silicon grommets with a lighter 25shore tension. I could see a smaller diameter shaft making them feel closer to a normal fanta, but personally I like the 309mj as is. I find corner inputs really consistent on these sticks, I believe it’s because of the smaller radius collar.

Great, please measure the actuator diameter when you have time. Thank you.

Wow, 25shore silicone will be super loose. IMO the best way optimize fanta is using the hardest grommet that your hand can bear. Harder gormmet will give faster neutral which is fanta famous for.

IMO since the collar is shorter, they have to compensate it using smaller collar diameter, or biger shaft, so the joystick throw remain the same.

In my experience, actuator is the most responsible part to make the diagonal input easier (more sensitive). You can try this using Golden Fanta 17.5mm actuator, but the other hand, it makes cardinal input become super sensitive also. The microswitches also responsible for this, the more sensitive the microswitch, it will make corner input easier.

Btw, right now I doing some test on omron v152 1c25 switches using cones actuator and sky blue grommet. It feels smooth, barely notice the feel of the microswitch click.

@wazwuz so what are the best or most sensitive switches to use on the Golden Fanta? Also are the Omron V152 1C25 from an arcade stick?

http://i.imgur.com/82prhjf.jpg

I find omron V102 1A4 (japan) is very light and sensitive microswitch I have ever find, and it is very hard to find. I bougt it (couple years a go) at old electronic shop (only 1pcs), and they have none left in stock.

then V152 1C25 (japan) I also bought it at the same old electronic shop (only 1pcs). it have some resistance but not as hard as Panasonic switch. yet it is also sensitive.
last week, I try to order this model via online, then I got “made in Indonesia” version, I find Indonesia version is slightly less sensitive as Japan version. but not too much, I can barely notice the difference. I find it par to panasonic switch sensitivity but with less resistance and it feels different, maybe it have something to do with the different placement of the switch actuator point.

left is Matsushita/Panasonic. right is Omron

http://i.imgur.com/XsrBUCp.jpg

last is V152 1A5 Indonesia version. this is the least sensitive microswitch that I try. and the resistance is same with 1C25. this work best to compensate 17.5mm golden fanta actuator.

so. here is what I find, less sensitive switch will make the diagonal input window narrower. and we can compensate big actuator that being too sensitive using less sensitive switch.
and doing wavedash is easier using small window diagonal input. (now this become make sense why green lever is so good for playing mishimas).
using sensitive lever will makes more input error on doing wavedash (in my case, double input on diagonal)

for me, right now I am comfortable using V152 1C25 Indonesia + cones actuator. I can do wavedash with less error (sometimes got double input on corner) and yet still easy to hit diagonals.

@DJ-Blitz thank you so much for the sketch

[ProgressiveBalance]

@wazwuz I heard that the Seimitsu LS-300 will have levered Omron ditches that make the stick feel like a JLF. Maybe we could harvest those from the joystick when it releases soon and try them in a Fanta.

[rbuniao]

@ProgressiveBalance They actually have them on sale right now.

Seimitsu LS-300 Joystick

Not sure if I want to buy that stick just to swap out the switches. Hmmm…

[ProgressiveBalance]

@rbuniao Yeah I was looking at the 5 Pin version with soldered switches, my bad, its pre-order. I would buy it just for the switches because I like to Frankenstein parts. It will also mean finally buying a Seimitsu joystick so for me personally its two birds with one stone. My plan was to take an LS-38-SC and add LS-300 switches. More tension, more sensitivity and a nice shaft cover. If I can get my hands on the Golden Fanta when it releases officially, I might try the switches out with that. I heard they feel like the JLF, my favorite joystick so…

@wazwuz https://arcadeshock.com/collections/frontpage/products/seimitsu-ls-300-joystick-pre-order These switches might work well but they are propitiatory Seimitsu/Omron switches, meaning you have to buy the whole stick itself for the switches. I do suggest trying out these Omrons as well to add help with your build.

[wazwuz]

@Phantomnaut
@hibachifinal
@aggro crag
@lolmark
@call2arms
@slaycruz
@rbuniao
@Chumpy
@Ghost Cobra
@kodee vu
@Bullmance
@FightGameGuru
@kkolding
@DJ-Blitz
@wazwuz
@CaliburX
@fai9al

I did Notice that tracing number of this package haven’t updated yet. I have call service center about this. I will go to Post office this weekend to investigate about this issue.

[rbuniao]

Good to know that I’m not the only one who noticed that the tracking number wasn’t updating.

[Call2Arms]

@wazwuz Good thing, cause I was wondering why mine has not moved anywhere… ;/ Its cool, we’ll get them soon enough. I’m just overly excited. lol

[rbuniao]

Looks like the 309 is being sold now at Focus Attack

https://www.focusattack.com/joysticks/popular-brands/crown-myoungshin/309-series/

[wazwuz]

@Phantomnaut
@hibachifinal
@aggro crag
@lolmark
@call2arms
@slaycruz
@rbuniao
@Chumpy
@Ghost Cobra
@kodee vu
@Bullmance
@FightGameGuru
@kkolding
@DJ-Blitz
@wazwuz
@CaliburX
@fai9al

I did Notice that tracing number of this package haven’t updated yet. I have call service center about this. I will go to Post office this weekend to investigate about this issue.

UPDATE:
I have visit Post Office today regarding this Issue. So, there was special condition that makes our package being delayed. A week ago King Salman (Saudi Arabia) visiting my country, and he bring so much stuff + 1500 Royal members (even he bring his own escalators and cars) that makes shipping overload. and when he back, he + 1500 royal members also bring so much souvenir.
Apparently it is not just us, there were many complaints in the post office about this delayed shipping.

I’m apologize to all of you guys because not aware about this. Trust me, this issue makes me upset too. If only there were no issue, you will be receiving your package this weekend and can start reviewing it.
I will keep monitoring this shipment. thank you for your patience.

here is the news
stuff.co.nz/travel/news/89876409/saudi-king-salman-bin-abdul-aziz-alsaud-to-take-459-tons-of-luggage-on-trip-to-indonesia

[Ghost_Cobra]

this the type of stuff you can’t make up lol
on other note

JLFsanwa, crown, nor myoungshin black/green shaft fits into
FujjinV2 grommet center piece, it is too thin/tight. Thus
you would have to change grommet and shaft to alter the lever,
reversing the mod you paid for. Making it a myoungshin with a stability plate aka a plain airbag.
I don’t have the math cause I don’t care, just don’t do it.

[fai9al]

Just received my stuff in the mail through DHL . Don’t blame my king please

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p31/fai9al_bucket/DSC_0532.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p31/fai9al_bucket/10198fbb-6548-4d03-908f-179e1bd33b16.jpg

Can’t wait to test them this weekend =)

[slaycruz]

this the type of stuff you can’t make up lol
on other note

JLFsanwa, crown, nor myoungshin black/green shaft fits into
FujjinV2 grommet center piece, it is too thin/tight. Thus
you would have to change grommet and shaft to alter the lever,
reversing the mod you paid for. Making it a myoungshin with a stability plate aka a plain airbag.
I don’t have the math cause I don’t care, just don’t do it.

I have a Fujin v 2 and I didn’t have an issue with using a Fanta bat top instead of clear one though it was a bit snug but I haven’t tried a jlf shaft either